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Old August 27th, 2007 (2:37 PM).
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Salamence @ Life Orb
Naughty Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 HP / 140 Spd
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Brick Break
- Stone Edge / Rock Slide

Roserade @:Choice scarf
Timid Nature
Energy ball or Giga drain
Shadow ball
Sludge bomb
Hp-Ground or Grasswhistle

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 180 HP/112 Sp.Atk / 216 Spd
Surf
Recover
Ice Beam / T-Bolt
Rapid Spin

Infernape @:Leftovers
Naive~252 Speed/100 Special Attack/158 Attack
Flamethrower
Closecombat
Calm mind
Grass knot

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Timid~252 speed/252 Special attack
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass
Wish/substitute
Agility


Blissey @:Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Bold Nature
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave.
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Old August 27th, 2007 (3:23 PM).
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Salamence @ Life Orb
Naughty Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 HP / 140 Spd
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Okay

Roserade @:Choice scarf
Modest Nature
Leaf Storm
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Hidden Power (Rock)
If you're running the Scarf, and the holder has a base speed higher than 80, always run with the nature that supports the attack boost.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 180 HP/112 Sp.Atk / 216 Spd
Surf
Recover
Ice Beam / T-Bolt
Rapid Spin
Fair enough.

Infernape @:Leftovers
Naive~252 Speed/100 Special Attack/158 Attack
Flamethrower
Closecombat
Stone Edge
Grass knot
Infernape hasn't the time to pull a Calm Mind.

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Timid~252 speed/252 Special attack
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass
Wish/substitute
Agility
Okay

Blissey @:Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature
212 HP / 216 Def / 80 SAtk
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Team is in desperate need of a Physical Tank. Drop one of those all-Special Attackers for one since you have like, 3 of them :x
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Old August 27th, 2007 (3:27 PM).
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What do you recommend me to use as my physical tank?
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Old August 27th, 2007 (3:30 PM). Edited August 27th, 2007 by TB Pro.
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On Roserade I'd Go Sunnybeamer!

Id say Rhyperior or Swampy!
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Old August 27th, 2007 (3:44 PM).
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Should I replace Jolteon with Bronzong or Skarmory?
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Old August 27th, 2007 (3:56 PM).
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Salamence @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Hydropump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse

Specsmence is my fave.

Roserade @:Life Orb/Heat Rock
Timid Nature
Sunny Day
Weatherball
Solarbeam
HP Ice/Synthesis

180 Power Solarbeam is something you can't pass up. And Roserade also gets a 160 Powered Fire type move, very great. Synthesis gets a full heal in the sun too.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 180 HP/112 Sp.Atk / 216 Spd
Surf
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin

I don't use Recover on Starmie.

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Thunderbolt
Baton Pass
Substitute
HP Ice


Blissey @:Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature
Aromatherapy/Stealth Rock
Softboiled
Ice Beam/Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave.
Yea, mmhmm thats the team BD
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Old August 28th, 2007 (7:45 AM).
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Instead since I need a physical tank should I replace Jolteon with Bronzong?
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Old August 28th, 2007 (7:57 AM).
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According to rumors, blissy is a horrible pokemon, but judging by its natural stats, it makes an excellent scpecial wall.

other than that they're okay

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Old August 28th, 2007 (7:59 AM).
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what the hell, blissey is FAR from a bad pokemon. Blue lucario, YOu dont even know anything about pokemon to be judging someone elses team =\

By the way, Roserade learns sleep powder, So you can use that in place of grasswhistle on scarf roserade.
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I apoligize, Blue, but who in their right mind told you that? Blissey is a great pokemon because she is THE BEST Sp.Wall.
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other than that they're okay

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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:02 AM).
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Smarties, how about poll # rates? Those are permitted, right?
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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:11 AM).
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According to rumors, blissy is a horrible pokemon, but judging by its natural stats, it makes an excellent scpecial wall.
What kind of rumors are those? Blissey is known to be the best special wall in-game.

As for this team, Forretress makes a decent tank. It has a great defence base, so it can wall physical hits quite well. It can be also your Rapid spinner (you'll have the opportunity to make your Starmie purely a special sweeper this way), and deal damage at the same time. Watch out for fire types if you're planning to use it though.

By the way, Penguinpal, if you chance that Salamence into the special version, he'll have no physical sweeper. Quite imbalanced.
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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:16 AM).
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Nice team although you need a physcial sweeper
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What kind of rumors are those? Blissey is known to be the best special wall in-game.

As for this team, Forretress makes a decent tank. It has a great defence base, so it can wall physical hits quite well. It can be also your Rapid spinner (you'll have the opportunity to make your Starmie purely a special sweeper this way), and deal damage at the same time. Watch out for fire types if you're planning to use it though.

By the way, Penguinpal, if you chance that Salamence into the special version, he'll have no physical sweeper. Quite imbalanced.
Oooo yea Forretress I'm going to look into that :D and whats a good Physical mence moveset?
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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:54 AM).
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i use donphan as a physical wall/SRspinner

Donphan @ Leftovers
Impish
252 Hp/128 Atk/128 Def
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard


standard physical mence:

Salamence @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Brick Break/Rock Slide/Stone Edge/Fire Blast

i love using forretress on netbattle.

Forretress @ Leftovers/Light Clay
Relaxed
252 Hp/252 Def/4 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Spikes/SR
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion/Light Screen
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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:56 AM).
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No thanks, Donphan isnt my cup of tea if you get what im saying:P and it has too many weaknesses
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Old August 28th, 2007 (8:57 AM).
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oh. all i do is switch because its easy to predict whats coming.
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Forretress @ Leftovers/Light Clay
Relaxed
252 Hp/252 Def/4 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Spikes/SR
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion/Light Screen
Shed Shell over Leftovers, if you don't want Magnezone trapping it, unless Forretress is using Earthquake. Could use more attack EVs than defence though, it's getting more than enough.
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Old August 28th, 2007 (9:13 AM).
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yah 252 Hp/124 Def/132 Atk might work
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Old August 28th, 2007 (9:22 AM). Edited August 28th, 2007 by Shinji_.
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Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Hydro Pump
sp sweeper

Roserade @:Choice scarf
Timid Nature
Energy ball or Giga drain
Shadow ball
Sludge bomb
Hp-Ground or Grasswhistle
sp sweeper

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EVs???
???
???
???
???

Infernape @:Leftovers
Naive~252 Speed/100 Special Attack/158 Attack
Flamethrower
Closecombat
Calm mind
Grass knot
Sp sweeper

Forretress @ Leftovers/Light Clay
Relaxed
252 Hp/252 Def/4 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Spikes/SR
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion/Light Screen
Rapid spinner/Physical wall

Blissey @:Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Bold Nature
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam

Special wall


This is what I want it to be now I guess but what should I put on Garchomp?
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Old August 28th, 2007 (9:36 AM).
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In my opinion, it isn't wise to put two both Salamence and Garchomp in one team, unless you don't mind the 4x ice weakness.
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Old August 28th, 2007 (9:38 AM).
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Yea but foretress blocks out the ice attacks like you said or like I mentioned earlier I can use a bronzong instead to block the ice attacks..
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Old August 28th, 2007 (12:26 PM).
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try not to use 2 pokemon 4x weak to the same attacks. use heracross or electivire instead
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Old August 28th, 2007 (3:41 PM).
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Whats a good Milotic and Heracross set i'm thinking of re starting my team AGAIN but I'm keeping Salamance and BLissy for sure.. and I already have a level 27 Milotic so yea
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