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Old September 16th, 2007 (2:49 PM).
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This can be a good wall. A underrated one though. D;
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Old September 16th, 2007 (2:52 PM).
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STAB Close Combat would put a dent in Forry :x Donphan can kill Vire >_> Just make sure you have the defenses to keep ice punch a 3 hit ko.
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Old September 16th, 2007 (3:15 PM). Edited September 16th, 2007 by Portujesus.
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If you do use pory Z...

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252 speed, 252 SpA, 6 HP
~Tri attack
~dark pulse
~Tbolt
~ice beam

Scarfed 'Z. The best PZ set IMO.
Porygon-Z only needs 264 Speed with Choice Scarf, so much less EVs are needed in Speed, and can be added to HP to increase survival (sp?).

EDIT: CBBlissey made me LOL.
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Old September 16th, 2007 (5:10 PM).
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Porygon-Z only needs 264 Speed with Choice Scarf, so much less EVs are needed in Speed, and can be added to HP to increase survival (sp?).

EDIT: CBBlissey made me LOL.
Yeah! CB blissey FTW! In that case, I'd put some of those EVs to HP, but don't expect to survive close combat;) And to answer the question about countering heracross, a very strong pokemon in defense that can learn counter, such as blastoise, = dead heracross...though you'll need to have spot-on prediction to pull it off, or close combat will eat you for breakfast, and will be waiting all day for lunch and dinner. Heracross is a tough poke to counter, I wish you good luck.
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Old September 16th, 2007 (5:24 PM).
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or you could throw a Flying type in their....tho the only good one is Starapator and it adds to your Vire' weakness.
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Starptor is no heracross counter, since stone edge=staraptor's angel wings being formed...as in it'll die. Skarm is the best, and only really reliable counter I can think of. If you use prediction, you have a good shot at taming the scrawny little bug-beast that is heracross.
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Old September 16th, 2007 (5:29 PM).
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Hera has stone edge. Perhaps Tangrowth? Just put it to sleep and then knock off it's choice scarf/band.
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Yes! Tangrowth...finally another counter! Just watch out for the brutal megahorn...though prediction can fix that.
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Ha finally a counter for the legendary Cross' haha now a moveset.
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Urgh...a moveset...hooray...just use knock off to eliminate the choice item...and don't EVER switch into megahorn...or tangrowth will gat fried like a double quarter pounder at mcDonald's, and that's including the greese. So use prediction. Also, gengar can switch into CB/Cscarfed EQs and resist them with levitate...that always helps.
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Old September 16th, 2007 (6:28 PM).
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Thunderpunch over ice punch on metagross...please.
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If you do use pory Z...

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~Tri attack
~dark pulse
~Tbolt
~ice beam

Scarfed 'Z. The best PZ set IMO.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Nasty Plot > Dark Pulse
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Oh Yeah The Exact Set I'd Use!ummm Gar'

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252 Spd/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 6 HP
Ability: Levitate
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go with that set for gar'!
Energy Ball > Focus Blast.
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You do realize thunderpunch is used a lot on gross, right? I'm not even old enough to drink...

Pory Z scarfed worked much better for me than it did with nasty plot...both work I guess, but scarfed=better IMO.

Energy ball=useless on Gar, unless you really have trouble against swampert...it needs focus blast for dark types. That way gengar isn't walled by everything...
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Old September 16th, 2007 (6:36 PM).
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You do realize thunderpunch is used a lot on gross, right? I'm not even old enough to drink...

Pory Z scarfed worked much better for me than it did with nasty plot...both work I guess, but scarfed=better IMO.

Energy ball=useless on Gar, unless you really have trouble against swampert...it needs focus blast for dark types. That way gengar isn't walled by everything...
Gengar couldn't OHKO any Dark type except Houndoom. And even so, you'll have trouble with any Ground type w/o E Ball.

I-Punch > T-Punch because Gross is the only I-Puncher who counters Mence.
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Meh...I still prefer Thunderpounch, but at least both do in fact work...and leik, you forgot absol! Actually, focus blast also beats a lotof steels too...more personal preference I guess...that's what's to love about pokemon. Houndoom lol...but yeah, can't gengar run a specs set?
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Old September 17th, 2007 (7:53 AM).
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Heracross counters: Gliscor and really defensive Nidoqueen who both treath with Aerial Ace. Skarmory isn't a counter because it get's 2hko'ed by CC.
Tangrowth isn't an Heracross counter and will never be.
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Heracross counters: Gliscor and really defensive Nidoqueen who both treath with Aerial Ace. Skarmory isn't a counter because it get's 2hko'ed by CC.
Tangrowth isn't an Heracross counter and will never be.
Wrong about skarm it doesn't get 2HKOed but 3HKOed that means:

Any other poke come back!
Go Skarmory!
Foe Heracross used Close Combat!
Foe Heracross used Close Combat!
Skarmory used Drill Peck!
It's super effective!
Foe Heracross fainted!
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k waht would be a good moveset for gliscor/tangroth
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Old September 17th, 2007 (1:33 PM).
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Standard Tangrwoth:

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Power Whip
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Old September 17th, 2007 (1:38 PM).
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Standard Tangrwoth:

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sweet so for my 6th member we have

Tangroth-1
Gliscor-0
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I'm a Gliscor Freak. X.o;;;
I don't think this is standard but it works for me:

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Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 ATK / 136 SPD / 116 HP

Earthquake
Stone Edge
U-Turn
Thunder Fang

Despite the lack of Impish Nature and Defense EVs, it takes hits exceptionally well. I'm sure someone else can give you a more defensive set-up. Just avoid Ice-Attacks because to Gliscor, they're the devil. X.X

I love Tangrowth too. I use that standard set for that as well. They both make fantastic Physical Walls. So you're set either way.
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Old September 18th, 2007 (11:46 AM).
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k I have decide on......................................................... Tangrowth as my 6th party member now is in the uper digets????
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Forretress as I believe is mainly a rapid spinner.
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Forretress as I believe is mainly a rapid spinner.
Well, yes, but no. Forry is a physical wall and spiker too...blastoise is also a rapid spinner, but there is quite a difference between the 2. Sure all pokemon are different, but forry is MAINLY a physical wall, not mainly a spinner. Rapid Spin is a very good option, but it isn't forry's purpose.. Hope that made sense...and actually gliscor>tangrowth if it's a heracross counter you're looking for...by far.
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I actually should do gliscor since heracross is a huge problem, but then there is a even bigger ice weakness I know tangroth is but at leat ice isn't 4x stronger, I'll have to think this over more...

so if i were to add gliscor what would be a good moveset?
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Ugh...I have to leave for basketball again...gliscor wants impish and...uh, good moves? Uturn and EQ would be nice...but I can't think of anything. Somebody else can do this one, my brain is off today...so yeah, hope that helped.
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