Shuckle

Well, yeah, i'm think of adding this guy to my wi-fi team, mainly because it has the highest Base Def and Sp. Def out of them all, so far i've got this:

Name: Shuckle
Trait: Gluttony(sturdy will be a waste)
EVS: 252 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Hp
Movepool:
I've got nothing

so i need some help here, any help will be appreciated

EVs: 252 HP, 124 Def, 128 Sp Def (when using a +Def nature, should have roughly the same Defensive in the end)

But yeah, Shuckle needs the HP more than Defense EVs... otherwise Seismic Toss will be enough to waste him

ok, well i'll try that out, do you have any ideas for the movepool?

maybe not his, but have somebody with Sandstorm or Sandstream so Shuckle gets the extra boost to his Sp Def...

Toxic is probably the best way to cause damage with Shuckle, unless you run Trick Room/Power Trick with Shuckle...

Possibly Rest, but it might be risky without a cleric on your team

Sorry that I'm not much help, I haven't used a Shuckle myself

for the last move give him gyro ball....

Toxic
Rest
Flash
Swagger

I'd say Shuckle would make a pretty good staller. Confusion is pretty annoying, espcially combined with Toxic and lowered accuracy.

Knock Off
Rest
Stealth Rock / Toxic
Encore


Shuckle is not an attacking force, unless you fancy the Trick moves.

Ok, well i've come up with this, tell me if it's any good or not please:

EVS: 252 HP, 124 Def, 128 Sp. Def
Nature: Relaxed
Movepool:
Toxic
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Power Trick

So would that be any good for a staller?

brotlov said:

Ok, well i've come up with this, tell me if it's any good or not please:

EVS: 252 HP, 124 Def, 128 Sp. Def
Nature: Relaxed
Movepool:
Toxic
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Power Trick

So would that be any good for a staller?

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Nononononononononononononononononononononono. I can't believe no one has pointed out the failure that is shuckle. But first, the moveset. EQ and trick room are useless unless you have the fancy power trick move or whatever...but shuckle just fails. Any steel or poison type walls it, since it CAN'T attack (barring the trick move strategy) and has horridous HP...but the movepool...that's why it is walled by so much. Its only means of attacking is toxic, and *cougharomatherapyblisseycough* totally walls it for the entire team...and stall wars are no fun IMO. If you DO use shuckle, use the power move strategy or don't use it at all...though it might actually work if the opposition lacks a heal beller...but meh, there are WAY better mixed walls, like dusknoir.

Ok I hate Shuckle but he can be kinda effective with this:
Shuckle@Leftovers
Ability: Gluttony
Nature: Impish
252 HP/ 198 Def/ 60 def
-Power Trick
-Trick Room
-Toxic
-Gyro Ball

1st Turn:Trick Room
2nd Turn:Toxic
3rd Turn:Power Trick
4th Turn:Gyro Ball
that kicks @ss if you can pull it off!

It really doesn't. Power Trick is unreliable when there are so many priority move users out there. It's just too risky, and you probably won't be killing anything.

And BTW, Shuckle is awesome. Knock Off and Encore are too darn good on it.

Tangrowth does a much better job of knock off. Shuckle-cannot-attack. Gyro ball would do probably be maxed base power on any sweeper but it still wont do much. I agree with Anti.

This is just off the top of my head, but maby this:
Shuckle@leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Relaxed
EV: 252HP 124DEF 128SPDEF
-Safeguard
-Stealth Rock
-Substitute
-Earthquake

Safeguard to prevent poison, Stealth Rock can help set up another Pokemon, Substitute will get annoying if your opponent doesn't have seismic toss, and earthquake for poisons and steels.

Weezing, Skarmory, Gengar...

Name three pokemon that ruin your strat completely

Shuckle can learn Trick Room?

It does a nice job on Trick Room teams.

If you're planning on a defensive Shuckle, your best bet is Rest. It can take quite a few attacks, Rest is very good on it.

Use Power Trick Shuckle on TR Sandstorm teams. It's fun. Just be sure to switch in on a mediocre SAttker, or one choiced into a nve move. Alternatively:

Shuckle @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef -- Impish
Acupressure
Rest
Sleep Talk
Rollout

;)

Syaoran said:

And BTW, Shuckle is awesome. Knock Off and Encore are too darn good on it.

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There is one flaw in your logic: While shuckle has a decent support movepool, many pokemon can use knock off, though tangrowth is the best...and encore...meh, choice items usually make it rather useless, though it is a good move. Here is the flaw in your logic I forgot to mention...shuckle can take any hit, but how can it attack? You're right, trick room+power trick is extremely risky, but what else can it do? Its attack stats are dirt, DIRT! and the only way of inflicting damage is toxic...and a few othresd not worth mentioning. Therefore, shuckle can tkae hits, but nothing else, except the trick move thing. If it has the correct matchup, shuckle is a monster, but it doesn't get many with skarmory, aromatherapy bliss, forry, metagross, steelix, gengar, etc. running around. Shuckle has amazing potential, but it ultimately fails, or at least IMO.

Again I'll say, Shuckle is definitely not an attacking force. Not every pokemon must carry a move that inflicts damage. This is why you get 5 more pokemon in your team =)

I never used Tangrowth myself, because I hate the fragile sp.def. Nothing hurts Shuckle too much, and when coupled with the right pokemon, it can bring a team down, especially in the 4th gen where items are more important than ever.