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Old September 20th, 2007 (6:11 PM).
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[email protected] Belt/Choice Specs
Modest (+sp. atk -atk)
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP - (Unsure on EV's, haven't trained yet)

HP Ice/Thunderbolt
Flamethrower/Lava Plume - LP for Double Battles with other Fire type with Flash Fire
Focus Punch/Focus Blast - Unsure on which, Punch for Blissey, but then need atk ev's.
Psychic/Thunderbolt

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HP ICE
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Thunderbolt
Focus Blast

I am in no way shape or form an expert on any fire type, but out of the above, I would choose those.
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Hmm, thanks...

I had Psychic in there for the Explosion pokemon like Weezing, who I seem to run into alot. STAB isn't good with it, but it works. I had Focus Punch there purely for Blissey, but my Electivire can take care of it I suppose. :) (That makes room for more Speed EV's.)

Thunderbolt for the obvious water types, and HP Ice for pesky pokemon such as Rhyperior, although burn would be need, which is why I was thinking of Will-O-Wisp.

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Old September 20th, 2007 (6:22 PM).
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Why didn't I remember WoW? I think that is a standard on Magmotar.

Don't force a poke to do too many different roles. Leave Blissey to Vire.
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Focus Punch is more accurate but requires prediction. Cross Chop is a good enough choice, it can possibly 2HKO Blissey. Choose Expert Belt over the Choice item. Mild nature is preferred over Modest if your Magmortar is going to have a mixed set.

EVs: 34 Atk / 252 Sp.Atk / 224 Spd
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yeah, I may substitute it for Thunderbolt, seeing as I have electivire for that too.

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Wouldn't that leave him open to water?
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Focus Punch is more accurate but requires prediction. Cross Chop is a good enough choice, it can possibly 2HKO Blissey. Choose Expert Belt over the Choice item. Mild nature is preferred over Modest if your Magmortar is going to have a mixed set.

EVs: 34 Atk / 252 Sp.Atk / 224 Spd
Yes, but as I stated, I have Electivire for Blissey, so i have Focus Blast as back-up power move, although focus punch would still work nicely, but then atk ev's would need to be invested.....

Modest is probably the way, I'll use this set I reckon:

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HP Ice
Flamethrower/Will-o-Wisp
Thunderbolt
Psychic/Focus Blast

P.S. Max stats at a Hindering nature would still give Magmortar around 210+ Attack, so I may be able to pull of Focus Punch with perhaps a few EV's invested. What do you think? How many Atk EV's?

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Urgh...magmortar. the ugly thing...just don't use psychic, and WoW is recommended so you've got a shot at actually surviving a hit.
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so perhaps this?

HP ICE
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
WoW

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Yeah, that looks like a nice set, and great coverage.
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ok, thanks. I only had Psychic there for Exploders like weezing etc, because I see tons of those. I really needed a good Fire type for bronzong and Metagross, and HP Ice can help deal with Rhyperior and dragons.

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EDIT: If I baton passed speed from my Yanmega, would I still need to invest so many Speed EV's into it? Or could I improve HP, for more durability?
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About rhyinferior, remember that ability...and yeah, psychic has terrible type coverage.
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oh yeah, the dreaded solid Rock......:( Anyway, how about the Yanmega Option? (See the EDIT Area in previous post)

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Would you have trouble against a Light Screen Brozong?
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Magmortar would get the first hit in, and Focus Punch is still up in the air for me...

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Ah, but FP alone, (especially at Maggy's atk) won't be enough. Still, You do have what, 5 others? You'll be fine.
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yes, plus, Electivire can handle it if it uses Light Screen. What would it use against me though once used?

Is Yanmega @ Speed Boost - Baton Pass an option instead of 252 Speed?

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Just noticed Heatproof on Bronzong......could be a problem, but I have others for that. :)

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Brozong is difficult to predict. Remember when we battled? Right after that, I fought Name. His Brozong stalled me for half & hour until I realized it had Heatproof, not Levitate. I could have taken it out 25 minutes ago, had I known that.
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When did we battle? And who won?

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You did. Remember? I d/c'ed. My bad on that, BTW. I thought that I could d/c after the match finished, but I d/c'ed too early, and you never got the win.

Bewteen me & Name, this time, I purposely d/c. I couldn't take it. He kept switching. it went on for 45 minutes. I can't look at Brozong without flinching.
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oh....lol :)

And never mind about the dc....I'm sorry if I got angry, I was sick for awhile back then, and had just run 12 kms the day before...XD

Anyway, Yanmega???? (I keep asking, but no-one answers...lol)

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I supose so. But don't rely on it. As soon as I see Yanmega/Ninjask/Shedinja/etc, I hustle to take it down.
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Yes, but I have an ace for that....:0 lol

let's just say, I will be getting at least 1 Speed boost in, maybe more depending on final move. :)

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