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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:34 PM).
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yes i see several weaknesses, the main one being gyara. i know you're not going to like this idea, but drifblim really needs charge beam or thunderbolt. no STAB, i know, but it's where drifblim really comes in handy. regardless, you can switch drifblim into gyara. if it uses dragon dance, it won't KO drifblim on the next turn which gives you the option of attacking it for the 2HKO or putting it to sleep after a charge beam or thunderbolt, hoping that they will switch out. drifblim doesn't need shadow ball anyway. i know gyara is OU tier, but if you plan on using this team in competitive battling, it's definitely something worth considering.

next, another problem with drifblim: salac berry makes no sense. no one on your team will really benefit from the speed boost. also, only ONE of your pokemon makes full benefit of Calm Mind + Baton Pass -- octillery. it doesn't even need speed, so again, salac berry is pointless. i highly suggest you replace salac berry with either Petaya Berry or just plain old Sitrus Berry. petaya berry will boost sp atk, which will help octillery (or maybe even meganium), and sitrus berry is so that drifblim doesn't get owned by shadow sneak/ice shard.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:38 PM).
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Ah.. well, as much as I love my STAB moves, I see your logic. I'm going to use Thunderbolt and Petaya Berry. Do you think I need a Fast Sweeper as my team does look pretty slow except for Drifblim and Kangy.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:42 PM).
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that wouldn't be a bad idea. you could probably use a fast mixed sweeper, or maybe even something with choice scarf so you don't end up getting destroyed by choice teams.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:46 PM).
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I wish there was a definitive tier list out there I could go and check. X.x;; I don't know who's considered BL and who's considered UU. Every list contradicts itself.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:53 PM).
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well yeah, there isn't a complete one for BL/UU yet =/

a lot of the ones out there are made of assumption. i wouldn't bother trying to distinguish between bl and uu. there's hardly a difference (it's mostly just observing movepool). all you have to know is whether or not it is OU, and you're set.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (12:57 PM).
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How about Nidoking? He seems to have decent Attack and Special Attack.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:00 PM).
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i love him ^.^

the problem is coming to a decision of what to give him with his huge movepool.

he can pull off every choice item and tons of strategies.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:04 PM).
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I love both of the Nido's. I'd say the only move for sure I'd like on him is Earthquake. In the UU environment, aren't Grass-Types more prevalant, so Sludge Bomb could be a viable option?

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Ability: Poison Point?
Nature: Naughty/Mild/Lonely/Rash
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Earthquake/Earth Power
Poison Jab/Sludge Bomb
Dragon Pulse/Megahorn/Shadow Ball/Shadow Claw/Stone Edge/Focus Blast/Water Pulse/Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
Dragon Pulse/Megahorn/Shadow Ball/Shadow Claw/Stone Edge/Focus Blast/Water Pulse/Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt ... The list goes on. O.o
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:17 PM).
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no point in poison attacks on him when Flamethrower takes care of that and more. plus, he's a good heracross counter. he takes ineffective damage from heracross' 3 most popular moves: megahorn, stone edge, and close combat.

as of whether to use earthquake or earth power, that's up to you. it'll definitely have more power against blissey, but blissey will 2HKO him anyway (too bad he doesn't get superpower like nidoqeen <3).

you may want to consider ice beam instead as it does more damage to dragons and walls in general.

fire + ground + ice covers everything.

as for the last slot, you may want to consider stealth rock. that way, you can scare something away, set stealth rock so they don't think you have a choice item. the next time nidoking comes in, they won't expect it to outspeed and you'll get a free KO. if not that, maybe thunderbolt for starmie and other waters, or shadow claw, who will hit both ghosts and starmie. up to you.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:22 PM).
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Earth Power
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:29 PM).
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i wouldn't go with poison point because if you do plan on using it as a heracross counter, the possibility of activating guts is dangerous. rivalry is okay, i suppose. it'll take care of most pokes (male ones that is), but it does reduce damage done to females =/

ah well. for nature, Rash. evs, 244 SPD/164 SP ATK/100 ATK, or some variation of that.

244 evs in speed + scarf gives him 400 spd. won't outrun a majority of things with scarf, but then again, it won't need to.
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So, should I use the Expert Belt on Kangaskhan. I'm trying to avoid breaking an Item Clause, as I was originally going to give it Leftovers but Meganium already has it.
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Old September 21st, 2007 (1:56 PM).
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expert belt wouldn't help any. like i said earlier, walls will come into to do exactly that: wall him. the only instance where expert belt will come in handy is sucker punch to psychics and ghosts. maybe you could try giving it a berry -- Chople Berry to survive Close Combat and KO the fool, or Leichi Berry for the attack boost.
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Ah... I thought of that. Alright, sounds good. Again, thanks Samson.
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