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Old September 22nd, 2007 (1:17 PM). Edited September 22nd, 2007 by mustbe18toryde.
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Yeah, RMT time again. I would like suggestions and opinions on this team. I went 10-0 in OU so far, and tried to stay from OU as far as possible, but I used Porygon-Z/Donphan because I love them. I would like some help in my Special Wall/Physical Sweeper help.



1. [email protected] Sash
Nature: Timid
EV: 252 Speed/252 Sp Attack
Ability: Download
1. Tri-Attack
2. Thunderbolt
3. Agility
4. Ice Beam

Standard AgiliSash Porygon-Z and my lead. Agility up, then sweep away. Nothing resists all the attacks. Timid to ensure I outspeed as much as possible.


2. [email protected] Orb
Nature: Sassy
EV: 200 Sp Attack/52 Attack/252 HP
1. Waterfall
2. Ice Beam
3. Psychic
4. Flamethrower

Mixed Octillery. Since I have no BPer, I saw this set on some other forum to counter SkarmBliss, and still do some damage to others. Works very good.



3. [email protected] Orb
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 Attack/Speed
1. Leaf Blade
2. Earhquake
3. Thunderpunch
4. Dragon Claw

It's a shame all of Sceptile's good attacks became Physical, and it's Attack power is bad compared to Special Attack power. But, I've OHKO'd Gyaradoses (most of which I had to switch it out then back in again, but others I still OHKO'd even when Initmidated).



4. [email protected]
Nature: Calm
EV: 252 HP/252 Sp Def
1. Calm Mind
2. Slack Off
3. Surf
4. Ice Beam

Special Wall. Calm Mind up and Slack Off to heal.



5. [email protected]
Nature: Impish
EV: 252 HP/252 Def
1. Rapid Spin
2. Stealth Rock
3. Earthquake
4. Ice Shard

Rapid SPinner/Physical Wall. Stealth Rock to stop Sashers, and then Earthquake for STAB. Ice Shard for anything that resists Earthquake.



6. [email protected] Scarf
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 Speed/252 Attack
1. Cross Chop
2. Earthquake
3. Pursuit
4. Stone Edge

This is just a simple Choice Scarf sweeper. Reaches 443 Speed. Pursuit over Sucker Punch, since it's Scarfed. Cross Chop=STAB and Stone Edge hits Flying types.

Now, I need some help. I plan on using Zangoose and Mantine. Zangoose will replace Toxicroak and Mantine will replace Slowking.

[email protected] Scarf
Nature: Jolly
EV: 252 Attack/Speed
1. Return
2. Close Combat
3. Ice Punch
4. Pursuit

Night Slash + Ice Punc is illegal.



So:

1. Toxicroak/Zangoose
2. Sceptile
3. Donphan
4. Octillery
5. Porygon-Z
6. Mantine/Slowking

Which of the two in Bold should I use? And no, I will not put an OU in.
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Old September 22nd, 2007 (1:29 PM).
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I'd like to say that there are 4 Pokemon that Outclass Toxicroak completely
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Old September 22nd, 2007 (1:31 PM).
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Even though I love Toxicroak, Zangoose does a much better job. I'd say Zangoose due to its superior stats/move pool.
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Old September 22nd, 2007 (3:57 PM).
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You're team isn't UU at all. If you have (even if just) 1 OU pokémon, you have a OU team. If you have a team of 5 NUs and a Wobbuffet, you have an Uber team. So, why don't you want more OU pokémon on your team?
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Old September 22nd, 2007 (4:23 PM). Edited September 22nd, 2007 by mustbe18toryde.
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So, why don't you want more OU pokémon on your team?
Because I have enough as it is and I like to use few OUs + BL and below. And I never said it was pure BL and below. So I guess Zangoose and Mantine it is then.
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Old September 22nd, 2007 (5:08 PM).
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Your Porygon-Z can be beaten by Yanmega easily if it leads, just so you know. :)

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