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Old September 23rd, 2007 (9:33 AM).
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I'm gonna make an uber team in addition to my standard team like Aragornbird did o.o I love Manaphy so I wanna use him..this is what my feeble brain has worked up so far

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Rain dance/Ice beam. I know people will be like 'WTF YOU NEED RAIN DANCE' I'm gonna use a CSWaterspouting Kyogre as my lead so I'm not sure whether I'll need it.
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:11 AM).
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That is the exact setup my Manaphy uses.

Rest
Tail Glow
Surf
Rain Dance.

Works great. But, use a Damp Rock to increase your tank. Leftovers are pointless when your HP is at full, which it will be because you are resting.
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:36 AM).
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Mkay, quick question. If Kyogre sets up the rain and Manaphy has the rock, will the rock take effect? I'd like to give Manaphy more coverage.
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:37 AM).
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Mkay, quick question. If Kyogre sets up the rain and Manaphy has the rock, will the rock take effect? I'd like to give Manaphy more coverage.
it does NOT work, the rock onyl works if you have used it with the holder of the "rock"
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:39 AM).
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I'm gonna make an uber team in addition to my standard team like Aragornbird did o.o I love Manaphy so I wanna use him..this is what my feeble brain has worked up so far

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Rain dance/Ice beam.
Manaphy's limited move-pool makes it Standard/Borderline.

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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:44 AM).
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Manaphy's limited move-pool makes it Standard/Borderline.

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Old September 23rd, 2007 (11:56 AM).
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Surf
Icebeam
Rain Dance
Rest

Whats the standard nature for it?
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (12:07 PM).
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Manaphy is uber, yes it is. CMCress, Haze + HP Elec/Grass Vappy, CMBliss. Overcentralization = Uber.

Manaphy @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Sattk/4 Def -- Modest
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Rest

Just use it with Kyogre. The rain will last the whole battle anyways.
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Old September 23rd, 2007 (12:12 PM).
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That's just it, Manaphy is not at all versatile. The same reason why Jirachi, Shaymin, and Celebi are not ubers, Manaphy is also not. Manaphy is very predictable (Ice Beam & Surf anyone?), and its 100 base attack is completely useless (it barely knows any physical attacks).

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Its ability plus Rest AND Base 100 HP/SPDEF/DEF makes him invincible to almost all pokes.
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I guess I should wait for the 'Is Manaphy uber or not' talk to finish >_> hes doomed if I can't use Kyogre. ._.
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Mkay, quick question. If Kyogre sets up the rain and Manaphy has the rock, will the rock take effect? I'd like to give Manaphy more coverage.
If you have Rain Dance, then yes, it works when you use the move. So, because you have Rain Dance in your set, we're throwing in a Damp Rock. Plus, what happens when say, a Poke with Sand Stream comes in and ends your happy rain parade? Well, you're gonna want to fix that ASAP.
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Not at ALL. When Kyogre comes out, the Rain is permenant, whether or not you have the rock. The only way it can be removed is with another Weather move.
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Not at ALL. When Kyogre comes out, the Rain is permenant, whether or not you have the rock. The only way it can be removed is with another Weather move.
Dude, think defensively. The rain has a great potential to be ended at any time by anyone's weather changing move. Even if Kyogre is out, if someone uses any other move, unless you bring out another Poke with Drizzle as their ability, or you use the move Rain Dance, the rain stops, PERMANENTLY.

Manaphy NEEDS rain, so you need to let him MAKE it.
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The question was if Kyogre cast rain, & Manaphy uses the rock, will the rock take effect, not if Manaphy had Rain Dance. And whether or not Mana has Damp Rock, it will stay.

Unless Mana itself use Rain Dance, of course.
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By time T-tar comes around I may have tail glowed, making Surf a probable 2 hit KO. I need Ice beam for the Lati twins/Groudon..
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How about:
Manaphy- Damp Rock(If Rain Dance)
EV's:252 SPATK/252 SPD
Timid
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How about:
Manaphy- Damp Rock(If Rain Dance)
EV's:252 SPATK/252 SPD
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Rain Dance is completely pointless without Rest
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Old September 24th, 2007 (1:02 AM).
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No one uses weather changing moves in Ubers. Groudon maybe, but you can take him with Ice Beam. Rayquaza dies to Ice Beam, and Tyranitar is not liking Surf. Just stick with Kyogre, you need the extra moveslot.
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Old September 24th, 2007 (3:28 PM).
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Does anyone know what manaphy's heart swap does.
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Old September 24th, 2007 (3:33 PM).
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It swaps alterted stats with the foe >_>
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