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Old September 26th, 2007 (2:34 PM).
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Could you post the movesets...? Otherwise, it still belongs in the "request a team" thread. So yeah...
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Old September 26th, 2007 (2:50 PM).
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look at my first post ive updated it....
help with dusknoir's evs please

so is it now more balanced
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Old September 26th, 2007 (2:53 PM).
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Electivire=total doom for this team...if steelix is out of the way...watch out! And brick break lol...not on Noir...it can use WoW well, and thunder/ice punches are good, not to mention shadow sneak.
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Old September 26th, 2007 (2:59 PM).
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lol someone recomnended brick break to me so yeh....

ahh!! ELECTIVIRE.. OMG
cant agiligross take him down if ive used agility once or twice
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:02 PM).
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Yes, but then the opponent can switch to a bulky water(Milotic~)to take the EQ and then proceed to finish you off with Surf..
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:11 PM).
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lol someone recomnended brick break to me so yeh....

ahh!! ELECTIVIRE.. OMG
cant agiligross take him down if ive used agility once or twice
Yes, but it still isn't a counter...you can't rely on having agility up...what if you don't? Exactly...understand?
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:16 PM).
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but even though they do switch out i still should be able to out run all bulkies and the other option is to switch to starmie


i can always blow myself up and take him down
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:23 PM).
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You can't counter something if it involves killing youself.

A proper counter to a Pokemon has to be able to switch in on the opponent and defeat that opponent while actually living in the end.


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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:24 PM).
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Huh o_o Then how is Magnezone considered a SkarmBliss counter? :O
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:28 PM).
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cant bronzong wall electivire...
if so i might put it in my team some how xD

edit i thought magnezone was only a skarm counter due to magnezone trap thing
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:31 PM).
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Magnezone doesn't counter Blissey. The only reason a person would put Explosion on Magnezone is because

a) They have a crap Hidden Power and/or
b) They're using it as a last resort move because they are about to die anyways.

No one is going to waste a ton of Attack EVs on Magnezone just to OHKO something they shouldn't even bother with.


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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:33 PM).
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can anyone give me a good ev spread for my dusknoir

and wat about bronzong
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Why would you want a third Steel type? Besides, Steelix already counters Electivire. It easily survives two Earthquakes/Cross Chops.

Also, Dusknoir is a terrible lead. Lead with Salamence.


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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:40 PM).
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ok no prob...
can u give me a ev spread for dusknoir
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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:45 PM).
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252 HP and the rest depends on your nature. For instance, if you use a +Def nature, focus on Sp. Def EVs. If you use a +SDef nature, focus on Def EVs. Don't put all your EVs into one stat though. Save some for the other defense as well.

Why Relaxed nature? Careful/Impish please.


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Old September 26th, 2007 (3:52 PM).
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i might go with careful

do u see any other major weaknesses in this team
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*coughelectivirecough* sure, my fav steelix counters it, but if it is gone, electivire=instant win for the opponent. At least heracross doesn't totally stampede over this team...and gengar can do a number to your team too.
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ok ill replace specsmence with alakzam so that i can counter herocross and gengar xD
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ok ill replace specsmence with alakzam so that i can counter herocross and gengar xD
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ok ill replace specsmence with alakzam so that i can counter herocross and gengar xD
Nononononononononononononononononononononono. As aragorn said, a counter has to be able to SWITCH IN to the opponent. Zam is OHKOed by Gar's shadow ball and heracross's megahorn/stone edge/everything lol...but yeah, Zam is NOT a counter for the two.
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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:16 PM).
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then wat pkmn can counter both
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A mixed wall...not really anything I csan think of now...good luck w/ that...
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No Pokemon can counter both Gengar and Heracross.
But Blissey easily counters Gengar.

The only two Pokemon that can counter Heracross (specifically CBCross) are Gliscor and Weezing. However, you don't need them if you can predict correctly.

Dusknoir is immune to Close Combat and survives two Megahorns. You just have to watch out when you use Will-o-wisp, because if Heracross gets Burned, your whole team is dead meat. Just be sure that your opponent doesn't have Heracross before you use WoW.


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What about Dusknoir? He hasn't the defences (and WoW) to stop them cold?

Oh wait, no WoW, I forgot, Guts...
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That's why heracross is so tough to counter. USe separate pokes to counter the two. Blissey walls ALL special attackers, except maybe azelf w/ nasty plot...but still. Gliscor is my fav hera counter...
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