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1. worst team ever 2 13%
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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:30 PM).
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but the thing is i dont know anything about gliscor can anyone give me a gliscor build please
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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:33 PM).
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It's a physical wall, with AA...that's all I can give you, I failed w/ gliscor, so somebody else would be better here...
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EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:39 PM).
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thanks aragornbird
is their any other counters for hera
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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:41 PM).
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thanks aragornbird
is their any other counters for hera
Yeah...a few. Skarm to some extent...and aragorn posted another one earlier I believe...
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Weezing. Skarm can only handle non-CB ones. But then again, a lot of Pokemon can handle non-CB Heracross.

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Old September 26th, 2007 (6:51 PM).
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Hold on, so if a team doesn't have Weezing, it can't stop a CB Hera? I, of course, know that isn't true, but what is the flaw in CB Hera?
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Yeah, scarfcross is very common. With prediction, heracross can be countered with other pokemon, but there is a risk of getting destroyed...which is why that pokemon wouldn't be a counter, but yeah...max (or a lot) of HP EVs on all your walls...especially the mixed walls.

EDIT: sims, the flaw in CB hera is that if you realize the extra power, you just switch into something that resists that attack...and can then damage it, so it would have to switch.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (4:57 PM).
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is there anything else to add be4 i make this team afficial
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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:54 PM).
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Dusknoir can counter Heracross with Fire Punch, just as long as it doesn't directly switch in against Hera, as Pursuit is dangerous. Jirachi can resist CBCross's attacks, and use Zen Headbutt against it. It probably won't OHKO though, unless it gets the suitable EV spread. Generally, Gliscor remains as the best counter for Heracross. Weezing can do reasonably well with Fire Blast / Flamethrower.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:23 PM).
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ok ive decided to replace dusknoir with scarfcross to give my team more ummmph but can someone give me a build for it


ok so far my team is
phy.sweepes- agiligross, maybe scarfcross

sp.sweep- specsmence, STARMIE(should i give it ice beam instead of recover)

walls- steelix( thanx anti-pop for making him my frav. phy.wall)

blissey - sp. wall
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That team is rather hera weak...and Vire weak. Not too bad though. Starmie needs Ice beam, surf, and thunderbolt. the last slot is up to you, I prefer rapid spin, since your team lacks a spinner. And half your pokemon are burnt by fire, especially special fire moves. That means specsmence and Chainchomp hurt as well.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (11:09 PM).
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true but thats why blissey and starmie is there and hopefully my steelix can take down electivire and heracross before it faints......ive finished ev training my steelix
it has about 330hp and 521def
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can u give me a build for scarfcross...

im thinking of

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ev: 252atk, 252spd,4hp i think its right
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Those stats for steelix are really bad. Its HP maxes at 354...yours is WAY below. Defense max is 548...again, WAY below. And heracross lols at steelix. It even lols at skarm with the CB set. Scarfcross gets night slash and stone edge in the last two slots. But yeah, you might wanna check those steelix IVs...and what EVs did you give it? Level 100?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (11:28 PM).
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ok i said about before
i just check him out and he actually has 352hp but only 536def it ok but not so bad
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Alright...that's better...what was the EV spread? That thing must've had a bad defense IV...but the HP is fine.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (12:47 PM).
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252hp, 96atk, 1??def
lol cant remember....
does my team have any other weakness besides electivire and heracross...


which is better CB heracross or scarfcross
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Hmm Aerial Ace? that is something I'm not too sure of, Stone Edge has better coverage with Earthquake
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252hp, 96atk, 1??def
lol cant remember....
does my team have any other weakness besides electivire and heracross...


which is better CB heracross or scarfcross
It should be 252 HP 252 DEF 6 ATT


its up to you with Heracross, Jolly with Choice Band or Adamant with Choice Scarf.
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aerial ace on glisor is needed to take down heracross


i gave steelix 96 evs in atk to boost his atk...

ill go with scarf since i have a adamant one
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aerial ace on glisor is needed to take down heracross


i gave steelix 96 evs in atk to boost his atk...

ill go with scarf since i have a adamant one
Steelix is a wall therefore it needs max HP and max Def.

Heracross really isnt a problem to Gliscor, but yeah AA is nice for STAB on it.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (1:05 PM).
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so what about my team does it need any other finishing touches
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Shadow Sneak > Ice Punch/Brick Break on Dusknoir

and

nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 76 DEF / 180 SPDEF

and metagross Evs are 154HP/252Atk/104Spd

EDIT: Also please put Close Combat Stone Edge Mega Horn and Pusuit on Heracross so you can PWN Gengar on the switch. with 252 Att 252 speed 6 hp
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Old October 1st, 2007 (1:15 PM).
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Well, I personally don't like your steelix's EV spread, but oh well. CBcross is much harder to counter than scarfcross. I prefer CBcross. Nothing beats the old ADV standards.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (1:28 PM).
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um whats a good characteristic for blissey.....
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