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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:21 AM).
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Impish: 252 atk, 252 def???
ability: Mold Breaker
EQ
Close Combat
X-Scissor
Stone Edge/Rock Slide

Tank Pinsir with speed boost. not entirely sure on nature/Evs/item

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252 Attack, 56 Sp. Atk, 202 Speed

Ice punch
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
Cross Chop

pretty standard Electivire here. T-bolt for Skarwall.

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serene grace
Timid: 252spatk 252 spdef 6 hp
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost

paraflincher/ special wall for extra support

Gengar @ choice specs (special sweeper)
Timid
252 Satk/252 Spd/6 Hp
T-bolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball

pretty standard gengar,Energy ball to cover swampert, or other bulky ground or water types

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Bold: 158 hp 252 def 100 Spdef
Hypnosis
recover
ice beam
surf

mixed wall milotic. no, i dont want restalking.

Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
Relaxed
252 hp, 172 def. 86 atk
SR
stone edge
EQ
gyro ball

pretty standard here. SR- just for coverage instead of rest. unless you can come up with a REALLY good arguement, SR is staying on there. So dont be telling me "Steelix is a horrible stealth shuffler dude!" cause he's not shuffling no one. gyro ball is self explanitory, EQ for general coverage.

I know I lack a rapid spinner, which i was hoping to have one, but instead, I put pinsir in because NONE of the rapid spinners could balance my team or, they all would add to one of my weaknesses. (except hitmontop, but he fails at rapid spinning)
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:22 AM).
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Since Pinsir has the same base speed as heracross (i think), its EVs should be similar. I, however, am not one to give you info on scarfcross, so run it like that...
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:24 AM).
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yeah, its the same, But im using him as a tank here
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:29 AM).
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Fair enough, I'll move onto steelix. I'm "meh" about stone edge on steelix, I've always prefered rock lside...but my opinions with steelix are always biased, so stone edge may, and probably is, better. I know people aren't big on blowing up their wall, but it can explode awful well...but that, again, is your call completely. I would consider rest on it too, but seeing you have no aromatheripist/heal beller, I wouldn't use it. Your set itself is fine, just throwing options out there.
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:31 AM).
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I've contemplated explosion, but I need Stealth rock for support. Explosion is great for low-health situations, but sometimes that fails.
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:34 AM).
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It can use explosion like forry...it saved me SOOOOOOOOO many times, but then again, so have the other moves. Next up, Vire. Okay it's fine. Max HP on milotic might be a good idea...or more HP EVs at least.
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:36 AM).
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Yeah, im thinking about dropping the def. EVs completely, change the nature to mild and have 252 sp. def and 252 hp. or something similar
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:40 AM).
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Yeah, im thinking about dropping the def. EVs completely, change the nature to mild and have 252 sp. def and 252 hp. or something similar
Keep Bold for your milotic, its a great dual wall and sleeper.


Try these Evs: 148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk

those are standards for your moveset.


Also with steelix, i know you said you lack a Rapid Spinner.

Well Forretress can be a wall as being a Rapid Spinner.

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IMPISH/RELAXED NATURE
252 HP 252 DEF 6 ATT
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake/Rest/Explosion.

Just adding an option to the table
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:42 AM).
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Pinsir and Heracross share both the same Base Attack and Speed Stats. How's that for ironic? o.O
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Adamant: 252 atk, 252 Spd / 4 HP
ability: Mold Breaker
Flail / Quick Attack
Close Combat
X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Seeing as Pinsir has a very low HP Base, using him as a tank is pointless. Besides, the ever-common Stone Edge will punish him anyway.

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Lonely
252 Attack, 56 Sp. Atk, 202 Speed

Ice punch
Thunderbolt
Earthquake
Cross Chop
Yeah so like, nobody ever told me the secret as to why Earthquake and Cross Chop are ran on the same set.

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serene grace
Bold: 248 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
air slash
aura sphere
thunder wave
roost
Special Note. When it comes to tanks, HP comes first, then the defenses.

Gengar @ choice specs (special sweeper)
Timid
252 Satk/252 Spd/6 Hp
T-bolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Okay.

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Bold: 212 HP / 224 Def / 72 SDef
Hypnosis
recover
ice beam
surf
Yep

Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
Relaxed
252 hp, 172 def. 86 atk
Stealth Rock
stone edge
Earthquake / Roar
gyro ball / Roar
Either Gyro Ball or Earthquake. Pick one or the other, since both can hurt Rock Types.


I know I lack a rapid spinner, which i was hoping to have one, but instead, I put pinsir in because NONE of the rapid spinners could balance my team or, they all would add to one of my weaknesses. (except hitmontop, but he fails at rapid spinning)
Uh, use Claydol for Rapid Spin :x
EDIT: nvm, everyone else seems to have it covered
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Old September 26th, 2007 (11:47 AM).
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Use Iceman3k's EVs for Milotic...those work well for me at least...or they did when I had D/P.
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