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Old September 27th, 2007 (1:50 PM).
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I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

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Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Dragon Claw
EQ
DD
Fire blast

I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*

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Adaptability
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
T-bolt
Ice beam
Nasty plot/Dark pulse

Not sure about the last move >_o

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252 def/128 sp atk/128 HP
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover

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I don't know.
..Help D:
Mach punch
Close combat
Rapid spin
Stone edge/Rock slide

Mkay, I wanted a spinner who can cripple Blissey and Weavile at the same time. He seemed like a good option..

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Impish
252 def/252 HP/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Stealth Rock
Stone edge/Rock slide/Aerial ace

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Hasty
172 Spd/252 atk/80 Sp atk
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Ice punch
Cross chop
EQ

I love 'Vire.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (1:52 PM).
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Porygon-Z even with Timid nature isn't going to be killing anything with it's below average speed in sweepers play. Use Endure/Salac Berry if you dislike choice item or Sash Agility
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Old September 27th, 2007 (1:53 PM).
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Ok. Gotta get meh another sash.. Can anyone help with Hitmontop? Btw how can I get mach punch on him..Hes always male..
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Old September 27th, 2007 (1:58 PM).
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Ok. Gotta get meh another sash.. Can anyone help with Hitmontop? Btw how can I get mach punch on him..Hes always male..
Thats the reason I never used him... I couldn't get Mach Punch :D

Rapid Spin Hitmontop? Oh boy...
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Old September 27th, 2007 (1:59 PM). Edited September 27th, 2007 by Shiraishi.
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Maybe the Colluseum one has Mach punch o-o *runs to get strategy guide* Boo. it doesnt :[ What the..why the hell do the smogon movesets have mach punch..
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Old September 27th, 2007 (2:20 PM).
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Maybe the Colluseum one has Mach punch o-o *runs to get strategy guide* Boo. it doesnt :[ What the..why the hell do the smogon movesets have mach punch..
I checked serebii and it sayed that a hitmonchan w/ mach punch should pass it on to a tyrouge.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (2:25 PM).
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But they're both male O_O
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Old September 27th, 2007 (2:27 PM).
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I checked serebii and it sayed that a hitmonchan w/ mach punch should pass it on to a tyrouge.
Here's some proof, to back him up: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/237.shtml http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/egg/237.shtml#machpunch Two links for the page listing moves, and the one for details.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (2:29 PM).
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Mkay, I'll try O_o It doesn't feel right..
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Old September 27th, 2007 (2:43 PM). Edited September 27th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

[email protected] Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Dragon Claw
EQ
DD
Fire blast

Nice

I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*

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Timid
Adaptability
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
HP Fighting/Dark Pulse/Thunderbolt
Ice beam
Nasty plot

Not sure about the last move >_o

I like to put HP Fighting on this as it has the potential to 3hko Blissey with it after a Nasty Plot.


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Bold
EVS: 148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover

Changed that to standard EVS


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Nature: Impish / Jolly
Trait:Intimidate
EV: 252HP / 74DEF / 184SPD
Toxic
Close combat
Rapid spin
Stone edge/Rock slide



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252 def/252 HP/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Stealth Rock
Stone edge/Rock slide/Aerial ace/Insert Elemental Fang Here

good

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176 Spd/252 atk/80 Sp atk
T-bolt
Ice punch
Cross chop
EQ

You missed four evs off on speed.

I love 'Vire.
Ok

changes are in bold (filler) (filler)
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Old September 27th, 2007 (3:24 PM).
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If you breed a Hitmonchan with Mach Punch in its move set, it'll pass it on to its Tyrogue. Then, when you evolve it to Hitmontop, it'll have Mach Punch. ^.^
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Old September 27th, 2007 (3:28 PM).
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If you breed a Hitmonchan with Mach Punch in its move set, it'll pass it on to its Tyrogue. Then, when you evolve it to Hitmontop, it'll have Mach Punch. ^.^
Just to add to this, breed it with a ditto, as Tyrogue and Evos are always male.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (3:56 PM).
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You're team isn't UU at all. LOL Hitmontop.

Still, I think your team is kinda balanced, but lacks some REAL defense, and Vire want's HP[Grass]
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Old September 27th, 2007 (4:06 PM).
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You're team isn't UU at all. LOL Hitmontop.

Still, I think your team is kinda balanced, but lacks some REAL defense, and Vire want's HP[Grass]
Uh what? I understand he has a few Sp. Attack EV's on Vire but it is unSTABBED and it only reaches up to 70 base power so Ice Punch is much better recommended

His objective wasn't to make a completely UU team at all, his goal apparently was to make a team with 5 OU and 1 UU
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Old September 27th, 2007 (4:44 PM).
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Thanks DarkAzelf, Name and Porygon ^_^ Mach punch is gonna have to stay because I'm not sure about Gliscor being able to take down Weavile =_= And will that Hitmontop OHKO Blissey/Weavile? I don't know a good dmg calculator :/
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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:09 PM).
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I like to put HP Fighting on this as it has the potential to 3hko Blissey with it after a Nasty Plot.
Adaptability (Double-STABed) Tri Attack > SE HP Fighting

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I feel like trying a new team. I like having teams with at least 1 not so OU poke and I didn't accomplish that with my 1st team XD;

[email protected] Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Dragon Claw
EQ
DD
Fire blast

I must always have a 'Mence on my team D:< AlWAYS D: *hugs 'Mence*
I personally like my Salamence with Stone Edge for further Gyarados Onslaught. Otherwise, that's fine.

[email protected] Orb / Lum Berry / Salac Berry
Timid
Adaptability
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
T-bolt
Ice beam
Nasty plot/Dark pulse

Not sure about the last move >_o
Dark Pulse for a full Life Orb Sweep, or Nasty Plot if you're running Lum or Salac Berry.

However, if you use Salac, you'll need a different EV Set.


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Bold
212 HP / 184 Def / 112 SAtk
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover
Okay.

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I don't know.
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Mach punch
Close combat
Rapid spin
Stone edge/Rock slide

Mkay, I wanted a spinner who can cripple Blissey and Weavile at the same time. He seemed like a good option..
Erm... I'll get back to this one.

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Impish
216 def/252 HP/40 Atk
EQ
Roost
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Enough to raise the point by 2 is usually workable for me so I can pack slightly more power.
Use Stone Edge to swat off Weavile (I doubt Gliscor could survive against it, but hey)


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Lonely
172 Spd/232 atk/100 Sp atk
T-bolt
Ice punch
Cross chop
EQ

I love 'Vire.
Needs more Lonely Nature. 270 Speed is enough.
Now will someone please tell me why everyone runs Fighting AND Ground Moves on the same Pokemon =/
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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:21 PM). Edited September 27th, 2007 by Shiraishi.
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..Oh damn I already EV trained Porygon >_o Mine has great def/HP IVs so when he gets hit by a STABd attack he will most likely survive and then the salac berry would kick in >_o

EDIT:I checked a dmg calculator and found out that Blissey will survive my Close combat D: That sucks......
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Old September 28th, 2007 (3:24 AM). Edited September 28th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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..Oh damn I already EV trained Porygon >_o Mine has great def/HP IVs so when he gets hit by a STABd attack he will most likely survive and then the salac berry would kick in >_o

EDIT:I checked a dmg calculator and found out that Blissey will survive my Close combat D: That sucks......
Heres what i got lol
after a CC on Blissey with Bold nature and maxed Def and HP.

Damage: 452 - 532
Damage: 63.31% - 74.51%

Ok, well that does suck.

Try this one

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Adamant Nature
EVS:252HP / 74ATK / 184 SPec.D
Trait:Intimidate
- Bulk Up
- Hi Jump Kick
- Stone Edge
- Mach Punch/Rapid Spin

you'll 2HKO Blissey after 1 Bulk Ups and a High Jump Kick. 2 Bulk Ups and a Hi Jump Kick and its a 100% OHKO

You may OHKO it with one Bulk Up and HI jump Kick, but it does 93 % - 109 %.However i cant see many People switching/Keeping Blissey in on a Hitmontop.

Also Hi Jump Kick>CC due to the unfavorable Defense drops and that would be pointless as this set revolves around Bulk Up.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (3:39 AM).
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Having Rapid Spin on a Fighting Pokemon may be a bad choice to begin with. What's likely to switch into this thing? A Ghost. And what blocks Rapid Spin? A Ghost. So while you may try to out-predict and get a free Rapid Spin into the game, it may be a catch-22.

Sadly, the only thing this guy can learn that will be helpful against Ghosts is Pursuit, and it's likely that once they're into play YOU will switch. :-/ (Although, it is interesting to consider that with Technician trait, Pursuit becomes 60 base power instead of 40... just something to consider!)

Also, someone would have to be crazy to send Blissey into a Hitmontop, and be even crazier to keep her in against it.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (11:27 AM).
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Eh, If spin on Hitmontop is a bad idea..no point in using him >_o Is there any physical attacking spinners?
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Old September 28th, 2007 (11:30 AM).
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Eh, If spin on Hitmontop is a bad idea..no point in using him >_o Is there any physical attacking spinners?
Blastoise...lol, kinda. It isn't ALL too bad. It works for me, as a spinner anyways. Then again, there aren't as many threats in ADV, so yeah.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (11:35 AM).
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Would a physical Blastoise work? Can someone give me a moveset I don't wanna make a fool of myself. XD
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Uh...I'll give it a shot, but I'm better with balstoise in 3rd gen...I'll see what I can do:

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Old September 28th, 2007 (11:47 AM).
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Thanks anti ^_^ There is always avalanche, o_o Or even flash cannon if I'm that scared of Weavile XD
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Yeah, I'm no good w/ balstoise in 4th gen, so somebody else should proly chime in lol...
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