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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:45 PM). Edited September 27th, 2007 by KONY.
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Alright I was thinking and i've come up with a possible new Team Now this is an experiment but I will take the criticism.

Skarmory Shed Shell
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature
-Drill Peck
-Spikes
-Stealth Rock
-Roost

Kingdra Leftovers or Petaya Berry
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spd
Modest Nature
Ability: Swift Swim
-Surf/Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Rain Dance
-Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor

Charizard Leftovers or Expert Belt
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant/Jolly Nature
-Flare Blitz
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Swords Dance

Abomasnow @Leftovers or Micle Berry
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Wood Hammer
-Blizard
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance

Sceptile Leftovers
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Leaf Blade
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance or Focus Punch

Metagross Leftovers
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Atk / 110 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Psychic
-Agility

OK this is what I was thinking about today hopefully its a improvement from yesterday Im satisfied but I need your approval so im waiting *bite's fingers anxiously*
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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:49 PM).
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Where is your special wall? Thunderpunch on Metagross(from emerald)works well.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (5:55 PM).
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Only skarm can take a hit...but that's an improvement from lsat time...why does kingdra have 1 move?

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252 HP, 252 SpA, 6 speed
~HP Electric
~Ice Beam (boltbeam FTW!)
~surf
~rain dance

It works for me...but get a special wall.

And a fier blast from chainchomp takes out half your team...actually, chainchomp beats this team, period.
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Old September 27th, 2007 (6:20 PM).
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Charizard and Kingdra offer Fire resistance, but this team still holds too much of a Fire weakness. You've got 4 physical sweepers, making this team quite unbalanced. At least include some sort of special wall in there?
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Old September 27th, 2007 (6:30 PM).
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Alright so Im going to change Abomasnow whats a good wall pokemon other than Steelix, how about Slowbro or Snorlax with the following movesets:

Leftovers
EVs: 160 HP / 40 Atk / 56 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
Ability: Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
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Old September 27th, 2007 (6:54 PM).
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Alright so Im going to change Abomasnow whats a good wall pokemon other than Steelix, how about Slowbro or Snorlax with the following movesets:

Leftovers
EVs: 160 HP / 40 Atk / 56 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
Ability: Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
Snorlax hasn't improved much when you compare it to the past generations, besides, there's now an even greater force of special sweepers around.

The SleepTalking set grants Snorlax an opportunity in facing against most special sweeping threats. Earthquake is necessary on Snorlax, however, a Gengar will KO it with Focus Blast, unless Snorlax can use Crunch / Pursuit. You won't have much of a choice but to switch out in this case.

EVs: 232 HP / 58 Def / 220 Sp.Def
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Old September 28th, 2007 (5:30 AM). Edited September 28th, 2007 by Znale.
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I'd suggest ditching Abomasnow or Sceptile, and replace it with a special wall like Blissey, capable of taking hits.

Nature: Bold
Ability: Natural Cure
Move 1: Seismic Toss/Heal Bell
Move 2: Ice Beam
Move 3: Thunder Wave
Move 4: Softboiled

I know that Lucario loves Blissey, but since Blissey provides the best features of a special wall, why not use it? This is the version I use, and in my opinion, it's one of the Pokemon you must use in your team.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (5:36 AM).
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Actually, despite the supereffective nature of the attack, Aura Sphere isn't all that vs Blissey because she can just absorb special hits like nothing else.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (5:51 AM). Edited September 28th, 2007 by Znale.
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Actually, despite the supereffective nature of the attack, Aura Sphere isn't all that vs Blissey because she can just absorb special hits like nothing else.
Yes, moves like Close Combat will have a much more radical effect towards Blissey. I was just referring to the Aura Sphere Lucario format (The Choice Specs one, although other Lucarios use Aura Sphere), nothing else.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (6:09 AM).
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How about milotic as a special wall? It can absorb those fire attacks your team is eaten by...

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~Rest
~Sleep Talk
~Surf
~Ice Beam

I, for one, think mirror coat milotic is the best...but again is your call. And you need a bulky water...kingdra isn't so bulky lol...
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Old September 28th, 2007 (7:14 AM).
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How about milotic as a special wall? It can absorb those fire attacks your team is eaten by...

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somebody help on the EVs...I am sick and just woke up, so I'm not the most aware today lol
~Rest
~Sleep Talk
~Surf
~Ice Beam

I, for one, think mirror coat milotic is the best...but again is your call. And you need a bulky water...kingdra isn't so bulky lol...
Evs for Rest/Sleep-Talk Milotic set are 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpAtk
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Evs for Rest/Sleep-Talk Milotic set are 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpAtk
Okay, thanks. You can also use mirror coat milotic, which isn't used as much anuymore but packs a punch...it's my favorite set b/c it works so well. Nothing wrong with Restalk though.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (12:37 PM).
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Maybe I will replace Kingdra with Milotic and then any suggestion for a tank Dragonite?
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Old September 28th, 2007 (12:40 PM).
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Dragonite is a sweeper lol...it can take hits okay, but not too well, unless you bulk those EVs alot. It is best as a DDer IMO:

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252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~EQ
~DD
~Outrage
~Fire Punch

DDnite FTW!

You also have a huge boltbeam weak, especially if you add milotic.
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Abomasnow in your team doesn't do anything but screw up your kingdra :(

Replace with Special Wall
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Dragonite is a sweeper lol...it can take hits okay, but not too well, unless you bulk those EVs alot. It is best as a DDer IMO:

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Jolly
252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~EQ
~DD
~Outrage
~Fire Punch

DDnite FTW!

You also have a huge boltbeam weak, especially if you add milotic.
I use that exact set but i go with 200 Speed and 58 HP to make up for Life Orbs recoil and to make it a bit Bulkier. Outrage is good but i like Dragon Claw better, simply because it locks you into it and begs for you to get revenge Ice Shard killed by a [email protected] Sash after you have knocked out a previous pokemon of theirs, but is suppose its up to personal preference.
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Probably should've put Dclaw as an option...but I actually prefer outrage for greater power. It eats all types except steels, but w/ 1 DD, STAB, and life orb...lol, it still inflicts a lot of damage.
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Old September 28th, 2007 (1:02 PM).
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Ok ill reedit and I will come up with the perfect team as far as I go. And I do like the idea of a Dragonite with a OR but I could agree with Dark Azelf it does lock it in and if im in a battle against a Weavile then I am pretty much screwed but I will keep OR in my options thanx peeps.
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Ok ill reedit and I will come up with the perfect team as far as I go. And I do like the idea of a Dragonite with a OR but I could agree with Dark Azelf it does lock it in and if im in a battle against a Weavile then I am pretty much screwed but I will keep OR in my options thanx peeps.
Scout for weavile, or any other serious threats to Dnite. It is my best late-game sweeper I have ever used. The extra power of outrage will hurt...and after 2 DDs, you'll outspeed anything except ninjask...or speed dyoxys(sp), but that's uber...
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