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Old September 29th, 2007 (9:41 AM).
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Physical Mewtwo@Choice Band/Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Lonely/Naughty/Jolly
Moves :
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Psycho Cut
Dark Pulse

Special Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Modest/Timid/Mild/Rash
Moves :
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Aura Sphere

Mixed Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Lonely/Naughty/Mild/Rash/Hasty/Naive
Moves :
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt
Stone Edge

"Nerfed" Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Adamant/Modest
Substitute
Focus Punch
Aerial Ace
Dark Pulse

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Old September 29th, 2007 (9:43 AM).
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If you realy wanna nerf it, give it a nuetral nature XD...but maybe make it a pseudo passer...other pokemon can do it, and better, but it would very well nerf mewtwo.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (9:04 AM).
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Alright, if this Mewtwo is going to stand up to the scruitiny of all the OUers out there, I must know...

If I give him a neutral Speed nature, as well as EVs in it, will he be too fast to be fair? I know he can be outsped by a couple of Pokes even at max speed, but coupling it with his other stats... will it just be unfair? Would giving him a negative speed end this problem?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (9:05 AM).
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Brave nature FTW! That's about all I can come up with sadly.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:25 PM). Edited September 30th, 2007 by MasterWGS.
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Haha! Thanks to On1 LiN|< , I finally have a Brave Mewtwo...

Mewtwo - #150 (Brave)
HP: 23
Att: 19
Def: 23 - 24
SpA: 30
SpD: 23 - 24
Speed: 19 - 21

Of course, as I feared, his Defenses are rather high... However, his Attack isn't superb, nor is his speed. His HP will be pretty hefty, but he might still cap off at an OU level... I'll come back with some numbers after I calculate what his LV 100 Stats will look like with the EVs pushed in.

EDIT: Okay, using the highest possible IV from that calculation, I set it up with 252 in Attack and Speed, and 6 in HP. It comes out to this...

Mewtwo (Brave) Level 100
252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 6 HP
HP: 346
Attack: 337
Defense: 209
Sp. Attack: 343
Sp. Defense: 209
Speed: 314

Do these numbers look too high to you guys? I might cut back on some EVs in something... Maybe spread some Speed to Defenses/HP to make him slower than more OU Pokes, just to make things fair... (Keep in mind that I will NOT be using his Sp.Atk stat. That just seems unfair to me.)
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:26 PM).
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You sure are dtermined...loooks a bit...powerful. That isn't good (wait, what'd I just say?)
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:38 PM).
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You sure are dtermined...loooks a bit...powerful. That isn't good (wait, what'd I just say?)
I know, it still feels wierd to me, thinking 'Now how can I make him not so strong...'

Anyways, I think the fact that he has no stat under 200 is a problem, not to mention two of them (since one won't be used) are in the 300s...

Meh, you guys can be the judge. Again, this probably won't be in any competitive play, just in "Casual" battles that still usually ban Ubers.
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Well, right now, I'm in the middle of a gyarados lecture, but I like the idea. If there's anyone who could do it, it's you, Grant.
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Well, right now, I'm in the middle of a gyarados lecture, but I like the idea. If there's anyone who could do it, it's you, Grant.
*Feels a big warm fuzzy feeling in his heart.*

That gets you on my buddy list. :)
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:42 PM).
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That gets you on my buddy list. :)
It's true, you are more determined than me with my gyarados opipion...and go to the water pokemon thread, guess what I wrote? "nononononononono!!!!" As for mewtwo, what is its planned moveset! Rock Smash is the pwnful-est of moves
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:46 PM).
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As for mewtwo, what is its planned moveset! Rock Smash is the pwnful-est of moves
Still thinking... Most likely something like this...

Psycho Cut
Brick Break
Earthquake
Avalanche

Covers a nice variety of types, and with his speed, he should do fine sweeping. His major fears will be Gyrados, and anything strong that can out run him... Which shouldn't be too much...
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Fair enough...choice band as the item?
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Fair enough...choice band as the item?
That or Salac Berry for those sweepers that are faster, but can't quite finish the job... However, CB seems much more likely.
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Physical Mewtwo@Choice Band/Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Lonely/Naughty/Jolly
Moves :
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Psycho Cut
Dark Pulse

Special Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Modest/Timid/Mild/Rash
Moves :
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Aura Sphere

Mixed Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Lonely/Naughty/Mild/Rash/Hasty/Naive
Moves :
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt
Stone Edge

"Nerfed" Mewtwo@Life Orb
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Adamant/Modest
Substitute
Focus Punch
Aerial Ace
Dark Pulse

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then it becomes useless...a mewtwo with a CBed substitute belongs in NU...you can't nerf it THAT much, or else it makes Mewtwo not weaker, but totally useless, a waste of a slot.
Well, if it isn't too late to reply. Guess you gotta move on.

Mewtwo @: Leftovers? 416 hp isn't bad.
Trait: Pressure
Adamant/Modest Nature
Hp fighting/Aerial Ace/Brick Break/Drain Punch/Substitute
Will-o-Wisp
Stone Edge/Charge Beam
Energy Ball/Flamethrower/Focus Punch/Rock Slide/Thunder Wave/Giga Impact. Heck, he's an Uber, be creative if you want with him.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:07 PM).
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416 HP gives you 101 subs...not too shabby.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:10 PM).
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416 HP gives you 101 subs...not too shabby.
That, and Focus Punch+Aerial Ace=Type Coverage domination. (Wait, did I just say "domination"? lol).
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That, and Focus Punch+Aerial Ace=Type Coverage domination. (Wait, did I just say "domination"? lol).
Hmmm... That's something I hadn't really considered...

However, the problem is that Mewtwo will need 31 IVs in HP for the 416 stat, and mine only has 23... Unless I try and get another one... *Dreads the thought*
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you still can get 101 subs, you'd just need more EVs.
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you still can get 101 subs, you'd just need more EVs.
But 416 is his max HP, meaning he needs max IVs and EVs for it to happen...
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But 416 is his max HP, meaning he needs max IVs and EVs for it to happen...
Actually.. all you need is 404 for it to have a 101 Sub.
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Actually.. all you need is 404 for it to have a 101 Sub.
Oh, my bad... For some reason I was convinced he needed 416... LOL, I got a C in math...
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Oh, my bad... For some reason I was convinced he needed 416... LOL, I got a C in math...
For some reason they say "half" it's hp. But 404 divided by 4 =101. Unless you can actually divide it down further. (Two times max).
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So a SubPunching Mewtwo?

Mewtwo @Leftovers
236 HP/ 252 Atk/ 22 Spd (Those are the exact EVs needed for 404HP)
Substitute
Focus Punch
Ariel Ace/Psycho Cut
Stone Edge

Final Stats:
404
337
209
343
209
261

Still seems a tad intense for an OU fight, but again, you guys are more experienced in this than I am. You be the judge.
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Sorry, but if you look at Salamence. One of the best in the OU Tier his stats with MAXED Ivs and Evs on every stat are:
394
369
259
319
259
299
Neutral Nature. Compared
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Make him a wall he can be accepted then so I think you should give him:
Leftovers
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