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Ludicolo is solely an annoyer, and it counters blissey. I don't remember the EVs, but I remember everything else:

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Okay, I lied, don't remember the nature either
~leech seed
~rain dance
~Dive
~some move I don't remember

It's been a REALLY long time since I've used this bad boy. Fire punch is physical, thus is useless on ludi.
Ooo, bad move. Here is a set, cortesy of Punishment

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Dive is pure awful. Tsk tsk, you know better, Anti.
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I can't think of a grass move and fp hurts ice
What do ice types do to ludi? Most are water/ice anyways, which energy ball would take care of if you really wanted it to sweep...supereffective isn't everything ya know.

EDIT: I think dive was stalling for more HP w/ leech seed. I'm an ADV player, so you're probably right, sims. It worked in 3rd gen...I think XD
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:22 AM).
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That usually leads to bad things. Just look at my posts at night, they can be a mess:)
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Well...okay. Dewgong is WAY UU, but it is a cool pokemon. Not all too great, but cool.
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Dewgong can at least mess you up with Encore. Mantine is quite a forgotten but handy water type, can double up as a special wall with that 140 base SpDef, Water Absorb is always nice to have. Combine Mantine with Electivire for even more fun.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (11:35 AM).
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Dewgong can at least mess you up with Encore. Mantine is quite a forgotten but handy water type, can double up as a special wall with that 140 base SpDef, Water Absorb is always nice to have. Combine Mantine with Electivire for even more fun.
Walrein uses encore better IMO...but I forgot about mantine, it is actually pretty good. Not great, but decent at least.
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Doesn't Dewgong has Insta-heal, like Manaphy? You know, Hydration + Rest?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (11:38 AM).
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Doesn't Dewgong has Insta-heal, like Manaphy? You know, Hydration + Rest?
I dunno, but if it does...dewgong!!!!! Omaster is a decent pokemon too...and kabutops is cool.
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Yes, it does, though I'm not sure it pull it off quite as effectively.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (11:42 AM).
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Yes, it does, though I'm not sure it pull it off quite as effectively.
It's tough to outclass manaphy, wouldn't ya say?:) Has anybody said Vaporeon? It is a cool wall/BPer.
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Ludicolo is solely an annoyer, .
Okay. Here's my chance.

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NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!

*Crowd goes wild!!!*

My Ludicolo laughs at your annoyer-colo, for he is a Ludi-sweep. Though others may do a better job at Swift-Swim-Sweep, his unique typing makes him superior on the defensive side, while still packing a bit of a whollup on the offensive side. With his typing, suddenly the only super-effective fears he has lie in Poison and Flying, two rather unused types.

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Swift Swim
Modest/Timid
252 Special Attack/(Up here you can mix and match with 252 Speed, or split it up in Defenses and Hp. I prefer 252 Speed, but others will argue it.)
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf
Energy Ball/Leech Seed/Giga Drain (lol, it works on veeeeery rare occasions. Don't use it.)

This thing has swept quite a few Pokes for me, and I'm sure it can do the same for you.
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Hey, that's my line!:D Nice set, ludi hasn't done well as a sweeper for me, but again, I play 3rd gen.
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*Deep Breath*


NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!

*Crowd goes wild!!!*

My Ludicolo laughs at your annoyer-colo, for he is a Ludi-sweep. Though others may do a better job at Swift-Swim-Sweep, his unique typing makes him superior on the defensive side, while still packing a bit of a whollup on the offensive side. With his typing, suddenly the only super-effective fears he has lie in Poison and Flying, two rather unused types.

Check 'dis out.

Ludicolo @Lefties
Swift Swim
Modest/Timid
252 Special Attack/(Up here you can mix and match with 252 Speed, or split it up in Defenses and Hp. I prefer 252 Speed, but others will argue it.)
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf
Energy Ball/Leech Seed/Giga Drain (lol, it works on veeeeery rare occasions. Don't use it.)

This thing has swept quite a few Pokes for me, and I'm sure it can do the same for you.
Bug.......... Megahorn ...Heracross


But Ludi is not solely an annoyer, it can actually pull off this set rather well.
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Laturn resits Bolt-beaming, how bout' him?

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Charge Beam/Thunderbolt
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Ice Beam. All right, it's official, my new line is: Howdy, partner. Hmm. That sounds good. Kinda..
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Bug.......... Megahorn ...Choice Scarf Heracross
Ooh, got me. Forgot about that one. However, I haven't seen one for a while, so it slipped my mind. I guess you'd have to switch out on that one...

Unless Rain Dance was already in. You might (I'm far from sure) OHKO it with a Rain Danced STAB Surf... Maybe...
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Laturn resits Bolt-beaming, how bout' him?

Lanturn @: Leftovers/Focus Sash
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Charge Beam/Thunderbolt
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Ice Beam. All right, it's official, my new line is: Howdy, partner. Hmm. That sounds good. Kinda..
I use that exact set, with the EVS: 252 SP.ATT / 40 HP / 240 SP.DEF (Timid Nature) Alternately you can put some in speed, but imo its unnecessary.


After one agility, its around about even in speed with Jolly Dugtrio, which is surprising.
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I use that exact set, with the EVS 252 SP.ATT / 14 HP / 240 SP.DEF


After one agility, its around about even in speed with Jolly Dugtrio, which is surprising.
For real? Well that's a considence. Maybe I can alter the ev's a bit: 216 sp.atk/104 hp/180 speed. With Agility, and this Speed, it can outspeed anything. Charge Beam already increases the sp.atk, no need for that much ev's.
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For real? Well that's a considence. Maybe I can alter the ev's a bit: 216 sp.atk/104 hp/180 speed. With Agility, and this Speed, it can outspeed anything. Charge Beam already increases the sp.atk, no need for that much ev's.
Yeap, its actually quite good,In a match i switched it in on Magnezone, Absorbed Thunderbolt, Agility on the switch and Pwned their Garchomp with Ice Beam and then Pwned Gyarados with Thunderbolt.

Mines Timid and i found out that it needs maxed out Sp.att to OHKO Garchomp.
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Huntail is lol, but gorbyss is a decent BPer when used properly.
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Isn't gorebyss good with psychic.
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Isn't gorebyss good with psychic.
Nononononononononononononononononononononono. Psychic is lol, gobebyss is a BPer, not a sweeper. Besides, psychic's coverage is lol...
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