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Old September 29th, 2007 (9:19 PM). Edited September 29th, 2007 by Gymnotide.
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Experimental ;) I made this really quickly and tried to balance it a little bit. It's a mix of some of my favorite Pokemon.

Aerodactyl @ Charti Berry
++ Pressure
-- Stealth Rock
-- Stone Edge
-- Earthquake
-- Whirlwind

I like Aerodactyl. It might not be the best to start off with though... Any suggestions? If the enemy is an Electric or Water-user, absorb the attack with Electivire and hope very hard that they didn't see it coming. If the enemy is a Swampert, switch to Ludicolo and hope even more hardly. If all goes well, switch to Mismagius to save the Stealth Rock or continue to EQ-Edge.

Azelf @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
++ Levitate
-- Nasty Plot
-- Psychic
-- Grass Knot / Energy Ball
-- Flamethrower

Azelf is very strong. Grass Knot or Energy Ball, depending on what Ludicolo gets. Flamethrower for melting down Steel-types. Supports Ludicolo's weakness to Poison and Bug.

Electivire @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
++ Motor Drive
-- Cross Chop
-- Ice Punch
-- Thunderbolt
-- Earthquake

Sucks up Electric-typed attacks. Pretty predictable, but I think it's hard to deal with. Cross Chop for Dark-types to support Mismagius and Azelf. Earthquake to beat up opposing Electrics. Ice Punch for the Dragon-types and to support its own Ground-type weakness.

Ludicolo @ Damp Rock
++ Swift Swim
-- Rain Dance
-- Surf
-- Ice Beam
-- Grass Knot / Energy Ball

Water counter. Grass Knot or Energy Ball depending on what Azelf gets. Swift Swim, Rain Dance provides nice speed and damage over Tyranitar and company. Transitions into Swampert.

Swampert @ Leftovers
++ Torrent
-- Avalanche
-- Waterfall
-- Earthquake
-- Stone Edge / Mirror Coat

Avalanche for more Flying-type and Dragon-type support. Earthquake and Waterfall for STAB. Stone Edge > Mirror Coat was basically a filler to combat Giga Drain or something. Not sure. Fix it. I might use Gastrodon.

Mismagius @ Spell Tag
++ Levitate
-- Will-o-Wisp
-- Calm Mind
-- Shadow Ball
-- Hidden Power (Fighting)

Will-o-Wisp to eat up Physical moves. Calm Mind to eat up Special moves. Ghost and Fighting moves hit through anything. Eats up Rapid Spin.

The team has ample defenses against Earthquake - half of the team is immune to it, whilst the other two have good counters to those who get STAB from it. Electivire and Swampert get Electric resistance, which is very nice. There's no resistance to Ghost, Dragon, Grass, Ice or Dark attacks, but there are defenses to those with a good mix of offensive attacks. Seems I will have problems with Ghost-types the most, huh?

I like Arcanine. Typhlosion - Eruption, Flamethrower, Hidden Power, Focus Blast? ;)
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:13 AM).
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Curse or Rest is an alternative on Stone Edge/Mirror Coat.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:23 AM).
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Old September 30th, 2007 (10:29 AM).
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Your Ludi set is near identical to mine, and he's my trademark poke. That guy comes in handy, so I'd say you're fine in that department.


Like Anti said, never use the type-boosting items. They just don't give enough power. I'm not sure what to replace it with, though, because I'm no Mismagius expert... Focus Sash, perhaps, due to its low physical defense and HP? Of course, Lefties are always a safe choice...
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I am not very fond of using the same item twice on my team. I guess Focus Sash would be okay...

What is your Ludicolo set?

I made a chart of which Pokemon covers which and I figured out that I have a lack of Dark and Bug-type coverage, which at least two of my team members are weak against.

I have a lot of Ice and Ground-type attacks, not to mention, the Pokemon don't look all that good together when you make a big image ;)
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Old October 15th, 2007 (6:42 PM).
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I'd like more than three comments, please.
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Old October 15th, 2007 (6:45 PM).
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I'd like more than three comments, please.
Don't expect many more than that if you don't post EVs :/

But seriously, I'm not lovin that Aero set. I can understand SR, but whirlwind I wouldn't touch. Aerial ace gains STAB or you can use crunch or thunder fang.
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Old October 15th, 2007 (7:14 PM). Edited October 15th, 2007 by Lumine.
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Make sure your Electivire is Jolly natured to outspeed some Pokes and Id suggest something like Wise Glasses/Focus Sash for Mismagius
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I really like that T-Bolt on Vire. Most people just go the lazy way with T-Punch, and do the 252/252/6 Spread. Awesome SkarmBliss counter aswell.

Can Mismagius learn T-Wave? I think it might be a good alternative to WoW.
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Correct. Tbolt on Vire allows you to pretty much beat down skarmory. Oh, the fun!
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I'd like more than three comments, please.
PokeComm just came back up yesterday after a week of downtime, give us a break will ya =/
And most importantly, where are those EVs?
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Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
++ Pressure
-- Stealth Rock
-- Stone Edge
-- Earthquake
-- Ice Fang
Has it come to your attention that Aerodactyl's defenses are TOO low to make a tank / trap setter?

Azelf @ Expert Belt / Focus Sash
++ Levitate
-- Nasty Plot / Hidden Power (Fighting)
-- Psychic
-- Grass Knot / Energy Ball
-- Flamethrower
Focus Sash if you're going to be abusing Nasty Plot.
Otherwise, see if you can find an Azelf with HP Fighting.


Electivire @ Expert Belt
++ Motor Drive
-- Cross Chop
-- Ice Punch
-- Thunderbolt
-- Earthquake
Okay.

Ludicolo @ Damp Rock
++ Swift Swim
-- Rain Dance
-- Surf
-- Ice Beam
-- Energy Ball
I guess this is okay.

Swampert @ Leftovers
++ Torrent
-- Roar
-- Waterfall
-- Earthquake
-- Mirror Coat / Protect
Protera plx

Mismagius @ Wise Glasses
++ Levitate
-- Will-o-Wisp
-- Calm Mind
-- Shadow Ball
-- Hidden Power (Fighting)
I should slap you twice for even using an item as useless as Spell Tag. If you're going to use something useless to boost power, use Wise Glasses please.

The team has ample defenses against Earthquake - half of the team is immune to it, whilst the other two have good counters to those who get STAB from it. Electivire and Swampert get Electric resistance, which is very nice. There's no resistance to Ghost, Dragon, Grass, Ice or Dark attacks, but there are defenses to those with a good mix of offensive attacks. Seems I will have problems with Ghost-types the most, huh?

I like Arcanine. Typhlosion - Eruption, Flamethrower, Hidden Power, Focus Blast?
Too many problems with this team.

- It's all OFFENSE, OFFENSE, OFFENSE! You need some sort of defensive attack methods, like you know, recovery of some sort.

- Status infliction. You have NOTHING that can block Paralysis, Sleep, Burns, or Poison. It's perfectly easy for one to pull a ToxiSpikes job and render you completely screwed.

- Gyarados is the biggest threat of this team. Electivire will NOT defend against it. My suggestion is that you turn Ludicolo into a tank to stand a chance against it.

- Ironically, Heracross screws you over even worse. When people see Ghost types, they think, "ogod Willy Wisp send in the Guts Attacker", and in this case, it's Heracross. Knowing that you have nothing DEFENSIVELY solid, then it won't be a problem for Heracross to come in and Megahorn the team to death. And I'm talking about THE ENTIRE TEAM.

Putting it short, many popular sweepers, including Porygon-Z, Salamence, and Gengar, are going to shred across this team. Use tanks. They're awesome, okay.

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Make sure your Electivire is Jolly natured to outspeed some Pokes
Lonely / Naughty by default. Electivire does not need a +Spd Nature when it has an ability that absorbs Electric Attacks and raises it's Speed by 1.5x. Even w/o a +Spd Nature, it has enough speed to outrun 130 Base Speeders after the boost.
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