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Old September 30th, 2007 (1:31 PM).
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I use Calm with max SDef, some HP, some SAttk.
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noo dont waste attack EVs on blissy, shove seismic toss and use the traditional EV set
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Old October 1st, 2007 (8:04 AM). Edited October 1st, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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noo dont waste attack EVs on blissy, shove seismic toss and use the traditional EV set
UBER metagame Blissey is really different to normal Blissey.

It needs Calm Nature and 252 SP.DEF 252 HP and 6 Sp.att or Def, otherwise you get PWNED by Specstwo and Kyogre w/Waterspout and the like
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ima use
lugia
latios withouit soul dew
deoxys
mew
manaphy with rain dance and rest
mewtwo.(savin' best fo last, except for lugiaXD)
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not keen on manaphy, it has a limited offensive move pool. apparently this makes it a regular like shaymin (Which is uber i tell you! Max Sp.Att with Seed Flare! It friggin pwns lol)
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Grass is a horrible attack type so seed flare is poo. Water/ice has no resistances O_o Manaphy with Kyogre support is scary.
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If I had to use an Uber Team, it would be:

Deoxys Attack form/Mew
Ho-Oh
Arceus Kyogre
Groudon
Metagross No, seriously.
Tyranitar/Choice Band Blissey. NEVER INSULT THE ULTIMATE FORM OF BLISSEY, CHOICE BAND!! NOONOONOONOONOONOO! (Yes, I beat Anti).
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yeah but u gotta admit, as long as it doesnt have a resistance, a seed flare is gonna sting
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Old October 1st, 2007 (11:17 AM).
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yeah but u gotta admit, as long as it doesnt have a resistance, a seed flare is gonna sting
I agree

LOL @ Shaymin without Seed Flare, have you seen its movepool ? Its not pretty.

and your denying it a base 120 power move (Plus STAB its 180) with 85 base accuracy that has a 40% chance of lowering Sp.Def?


Shaymin without Seed Flare it like Metagross without Meteor Mash
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Old October 1st, 2007 (11:28 AM).
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yeah but u gotta admit, as long as it doesnt have a resistance, a seed flare is gonna sting
High sp.Def, rest, Calm Mind, and the likes lower the possibilty of Seed Flare being Flawless. And all three of them are doom. Restalking is even Better, 328def? Milotic, no seriously, Milotic can make quick work of this guy with one Ice Beam. Marvel Scale= 1.5 Boost. Which, no matter what you say, is a lot combined with the super effective-ness. Ice Beam, base power: 95. 20+95= 115. 115 multiplied by two equals 230. The HP of Shaymin is 404. Now we Subtract 230 from 404: 174. Divide: 174 goes into 404 how many times: 2. So all it need's, if I caculated and did the formula correctly, is two hits of Ice Beam. And all you need is Sleep Talk+Ice Beam if you find Restalking too risky. Milotic usually run Surf/Ice Beam/Sleep Talk/ and a choice of either Hypnosis or Recover. With Leftovers. Math time, is officall, over.
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yeah if milotic gets a chance to do all that, shaymins speed is likely to be higher and i'd put my money on shaymins seed flare with sp. attk over milotics sp def
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (9:52 AM).
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sorry i want to get this thread goin lol. any more thoughts?
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (9:54 AM).
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To be honest, not really...there aren't many pokemon that can last in ubers, we've mentioned many lol. Maybe diagla and palkia?
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i like them both but for different reasons. dialga i feel is better overall, but palkia makes better use of draco meteor (my favorite attack) because it has spacial rend to back it up. otherwise go dialga :)
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (10:03 AM).
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Well...the best attackers are Specstwo and soul dew latios. My advice...use lugia, it is pwnage. I suck at ubers, so I just won't say anything more.
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (10:07 AM).
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yeah i dont play ubers properly, its just a bit of fun :) i like playin stragies that are normally banned (EG dark void) to wind up my mates :P
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (2:44 PM). Edited October 2nd, 2007 by shedinjask.
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Learn you some Pokemath. It's not calculated that way.

EDIT: Milotic with 100 SAttk evs against a 4 HP no SDef Shaymin: 44.74% - 52.92%. Sometimes a 2HKO on Specs.
Shaymin with max SAttk Modest Specs Seed Flare on a 252 HP/156 SDef Calm Milotic: 91.12% - 107.36%

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Old October 2nd, 2007 (3:21 PM).
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Synchronize knew a lot on ubers. Sadly, that was 3rd gen.

I would use Arceus Ground Type oddly enough.
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And be owned by Kyogre? No. Bug Arceus is the most effective because SR isn't used in ubers as much as standard play. Judgement on Bug Arceus makes quick work of Deoxys/Mewtwo and the Lati twins.
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Can you even get a legit Arceus? I honstly don't know, but I thought you couldn't. Good idea about bug Arceus...that would be pwnful.
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Old October 2nd, 2007 (3:36 PM).
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Can you even get a legit Arceus? I honstly don't know, but I thought you couldn't. Good idea about bug Arceus...that would be pwnful.
Serebii saya you can get it. But this site, overall, says it's not legit. Any type. http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/arceus.shtml
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And be owned by Kyogre? No. Bug Arceus is the most effective because SR isn't used in ubers as much as standard play. Judgement on Bug Arceus makes quick work of Deoxys/Mewtwo and the Lati twins.
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I don't play ubers O_o (yet)
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I use my arceus as dragon type as it has the best resistances. My move set is:
Judgement (Dragon)
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X Scissor
still decidin, any thoughts?
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (11:25 AM).
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I use my arceus as dragon type as it has the best resistances. My move set is:
Judgement (Dragon)
Draco Meteor
X Scissor
still decidin, any thoughts?
I never use Arceus, because it's hacked. But if I had to go with it, then yeah, dragon type is the coolest. It also hits everything except steel type with Judgement.
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