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Originally Posted by Jimmyray
Oh yeah, I didn't realize that Choice Specs would fail with Confuse Ray *Slaps own face* Currently, it knows Lava Plume and Solarbeam. Flamethrower is going to replace Lava Plume, should I stick with Solarbeam? It has better type coverage than Psychic, but it takes two turns. Unless I had sunny day, but then if they switched to a ground pokemon, and I switched to water, I'd be dead... Also I don't like WoW on Magmortar, because it has Flame Body which already gives the foe a 30% chance of getting a burn if they use physical moves. And about my Umbreon, I preffered Swagger, because they cause themselves more damage, and If I have Toxic and Subsitute already in use, they're attack would merely defeat the substitute, and that's only if they're using physical moves, O_o
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Problems with your theories: For magmortar, it can't take a hit, no matter how fat it is. That means solarbeam is no. Flame body never works, and if it does, magmortar will be dead because any move that could activate flame body will OHKO it...except for tackle...
WoW allows it to survive longer...which is a very nice perk. Since there is no better substitute, except maybe focus punch, I advise you use it.
As for umbreon, it has 65 base speed. You use swagger, but you've already been hit. Even if the attack misses, there's a 50%chance the foe OHKOs you...the other 50% it will hurt itself, THEN you can set up your sub. Still, your strategy relies far too much on luck. Umbreon is useless in 4th gen anyways, the set I posted is, unfortunately, the only way you can really use it.
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