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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:47 PM).
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Umbreon
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That's my Umbreon's current moveset,
but I was wondering if anyone could me give me a strategy or some tips on using Baton Pass,
such as what situations to use Umbreon in, or who to Baton Pass to, etc.

and if you have no idea what I'm talking about, just tell me what you would do with this Moveset!

any help would be greatly appreciated,
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:50 PM).
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You set is fine, run:
bold/252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SpD

I prefer confuse ray over toxic, but w/e.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (3:57 PM).
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Umbreon
~Mean Look
~Toxic
~Wish
~Baton

That's my Umbreon's current moveset,
but I was wondering if anyone could me give me a strategy or some tips on using Baton Pass,
such as what situations to use Umbreon in, or who to Baton Pass to, etc.

and if you have no idea what I'm talking about, just tell me what you would do with this Moveset!

any help would be greatly appreciated,
thankyou.
Curse/Yawn/Charm/Taunt/Covet over Toxic.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:03 PM).
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Covet? What does that do? You'll be trapping anyways, so you don't need to rub it in...but your other options are plausible.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:17 PM).
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Covet? What does that do? You'll be trapping anyways, so you don't need to rub it in...but your other options are plausible.
Covet steals the Item from the foe, and gives it to the one that uses the move.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:20 PM).
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Covet steals the Item from the foe, and gives it to the one that uses the move.
I know that, but how is that useful on umbreon? It'll switch out anyways using BP, and if you are sending a trap to a pokemon, it most likely has a matchup good enough to destroy the foe, correct?
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:22 PM).
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I know that, but how is that useful on umbreon? It'll switch out anyways using BP, and if you are sending a trap to a pokemon, it most likely has a matchup good enough to destroy the foe, correct?
Yeah. But I thought it would be useful, seeing as how some of them carry Choice carf/Cb. And without that, they can't really go ageinst Umbreon. However, CC packs a punch, even without Choice Band. So I guess it's not really much of an option, seeing as how, if Heracross had CC, it's over for Umbreon. Which it always does.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:25 PM).
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I think it OHKOs umbreon...I think...I like curse, as it has better resistance to physical attacks and benefits your physical walls tremendously.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:27 PM).
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I think it OHKOs umbreon...I think...I like curse, as it has better resistance to physical attacks and benefits your physical walls tremendously.
Curse makes it, and since it Bp's to the other pokes, like a Bulky Tank. Which Tanks are always Bulky. Curse is probably the best Umbreon has to offer.
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Old September 30th, 2007 (4:28 PM).
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That or confuse ray, which sets up sweepers better, since therre's a 50% chance they won't even take a hit.
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