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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:17 PM).
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thinking of using manaphy as a anti bper because of heart swap but not sure what else to give it or evs........help
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What's BP stand for? (newish to slang)
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BP=Baton pass.

The only common baton passer in ubers is Mew O_o Is there a need for a phazer/hazer/heart swapper?XD
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:22 PM).
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Manaphy @ Leftovers
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:23 PM).
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is manaphy an uber i thought it was a legendary??? oh well i dont have any good ubers anyway they just sit in my box now

i dont know if there really is a need for a hazer or heart swapper but i want to have one just in case
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:25 PM).
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Manaphy is uber because of the Rest-Hydration combo which allows for instant heal without sleep in rain.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:26 PM).
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Manaphy @ Leftovers
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is manaphys Atk good enough to use waterfall? what if i use surf instead no one i know would double battle me anyway
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:28 PM).
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is manaphys Atk good enough to use waterfall? what if i use surf instead no one i know would double battle me anyway
Waterfall is added to make Manaphy as a mixed attacker. It can be useful when facing any special walls of the sort.
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There are other pokes that have hydration/rest as well.. I mean Manaphy is great, but I'd hardly call it Uber... UNLESS you are calling the others that can do that Uber as well. It can still be OHKO'd by the right moves.
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Old October 1st, 2007 (2:35 PM).
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im pretty sure manaphy and maybe phione are the only ones with that but ither ubers have weather affects and you probably know them
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Manaphy is uber because of the Rest-Hydration combo which allows for instant heal without sleep in rain.
Thats not it, Tail glow makes it into a pure beast in OU, blissey cant even stop it, and that enough to make ANYTHING uber. It can make 101 subs, which means bliss cant beak it with S-toss, I could go on for a while.
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Don't forget having Kyogre in your team saves you a moveslot for Rain Dance, as well as making Manaphy stay alive for ages with Hydration.
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Seel and Dewgong are the only other ones with Hydration and it's safe to assume NEITHER of them are Uber.
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Tangrowth and Leafeon, I believe have Leaf Guard too.
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Thats not it, Tail glow makes it into a pure beast in OU, blissey cant even stop it, and that enough to make ANYTHING uber. It can make 101 subs, which means bliss cant beak it with S-toss, I could go on for a while.
No incorrect. Tail Glow is a minor reason, very minor. Rest-Hydration is almost exactly why it IS sometimes considered uber
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BP=Baton pass.

The only common baton passer in ubers is Mew O_o Is there a need for a phazer/hazer/heart swapper?XD
yes, ninjask. the most used in history.

not the most, but most used baton passer.
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Manaphy @ Leftovers
Naive Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Def
- Heart Swap
- Ice Beam
- Waterfall
- Grass Knot / Energy Ball
This is so far the best reply to this thread - though I would swap the Grass Moves for Rest if you have Kyogre support

Manaphy is uber due to the lack of weaknesses - Rest/Hydration combo - and Tail Glow.

btw I'm typing small cuz.... i dunno. it was Xairmo's idea. Typing small 4evah
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This is so far the best reply to this thread - though I would swap the Grass Moves for Rest if you have Kyogre support
Manaphy can't do anything to an opposing Kyogre in the Uber metagame, unless it carries a Grass type move.
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No incorrect. Tail Glow is a minor reason, very minor. Rest-Hydration is almost exactly why it IS sometimes considered uber
Seeing it can raise sp. Atk by 2 stages, I dont see why you would say its a minor reason, espically with 101 subs as well, so lets add that together..

101 subs + Tail Glow ( 2 stages for Sp. Atk) + Decent Defenses ( to take moves other than S-toss = Dead anything.
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Seeing it can raise sp. Atk by 2 stages, I dont see why you would say its a minor reason, espically with 101 subs as well, so lets add that together..

101 subs + Tail Glow ( 2 stages for Sp. Atk) + Decent Defenses ( to take moves other than S-toss = Dead anything.
It IS a reason why it's an uber, but it is minor compared to the Rest+Hydration combo
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It IS a reason why it's an uber, but it is minor compared to the Rest+Hydration combo
How is being able to sweep teams in 3 turns of set-up a minor reason?
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How is being able to sweep teams in 3 turns of set-up a minor reason?
Because the Rest-Hydration combo PLUS the 100 Base Stats in every category makes it almost or impossible to take down.
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