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Old October 3rd, 2007 (8:56 AM).
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So this gen I started the whole EV training and IV thing. I still am grasping the entire concept of how I figure IVs and such. I used the calculator and got this.

Umbreon
Sassy lv 31
HP: 107 (24/0)
Atk: 47 (7/0)
Def: 75 (7/0)
Sp.Atk: 46 (14/0)
Sp.Def: 104 (31/0)
Spd: 44 (13/0)
Spd: 44 (13/0)
(Hidden Power: Grass)

I guess I'll post her moveset also.
Swagger
Tail Whip
Captivate
Helping Hand(Eventually Moonlight will replace)

I know 31 is the highest right? So this means my Umbreon has perfect Ivs in Sp Def? If so I got lucky since she was bred for Sp. Wall/annoyance.

So can someone give me some more insight on IVs?
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:10 AM).
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Yeh I guess your Umbreon has awesome Sp DEF IVs

Im just suggesting movesets for an annoyer Umbreon
Holding Leftovers
-Wish
-Toxic/Confuse Ray
-Protect
-Mean Look

or

a Baton Passer Umbreon

~Mean Look
~Curse
~Wish
~Baton Pass

Try breeding it again to get Bold Nature
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:18 AM).
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Yeh I guess your Umbreon has awesome Sp DEF IVs

Im just suggesting movesets for an annoyer Umbreon
Holding Leftovers
-Wish
-Toxic/Confuse Ray
-Protect
-Mean Look
I considered this moveset. Protect is a sure thing I'll add in the end.

How about this?
Holding Leftovers
-Moonlight
-Swagger/Confuse Ray
-Protect
-Mean Look

I never cared much for Wish to be honest. I know swagger is risky due to attack increase and that confuse ray is more sensible but so far I've had alot of luck with Swagger(took down entire uber team once) so I might keep it. Thanks for the Mean Look idea. I'l be sure to add that to the moveset.

Thanks.
Zack~
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:20 AM).
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Umbreon is used mostly as a Toxic trapper, and with Wish you can heal yourself + other teammates, and the reason Wish is somehow well sort of better is that if you trap a Special sweeper you will annoy them so much
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:24 AM).
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Umbreon is used mostly as a Toxic trapper, and with Wish you can heal yourself + other teammates, and the reason Wish is somehow well sort of better is that if you trap a Special sweeper you will annoy them so much
I was just about to mention that I had forgotten Wish's team heal ability. Makes alot of sense to use. I'll try it out and decide.
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:25 AM).
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Try it out in a WiFi battle, see if you like your Umbreons battling style
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (9:28 AM).
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The other advantage of Wishpassing along with Curse is Umbreon can take the hit, while your team member is healed instead (and with Umbreon's defences, taking a hit is usually quite feasible)
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (11:44 AM).
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I dont know much about battlin but i think Mean look is a bit pointless without toxic of destiny bond on the same poke :)
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (1:40 PM).
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Umbreon is used mostly as a Toxic trapper
I cried at this statement.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
Wish/Moonlight
Taunt
Mean Look
Baton Pass

The essential master of trap and support. Mean look opponents that are stupid enough not to switch a counter, then if it is a phazer or stat upper, Taunt them. Wish/ Moonlight for recovery and then baton pass to a counter or a stat upper of your own, game.
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Old October 3rd, 2007 (2:35 PM).
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I cried at this statement.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
Wish/Moonlight
Taunt
Mean Look
Baton Pass

The essential master of trap and support. Mean look opponents that are stupid enough not to switch a counter, then if it is a phazer or stat upper, Taunt them. Wish/ Moonlight for recovery and then baton pass to a counter or a stat upper of your own, game.
You can also use taunt the 1st turn and make the opposition oh-so-mad when their Skarm gets taunted. then you mean look the next pokemon coming in and BP the trap. that strategy has worked for me well.
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