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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:29 PM).
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Extrasensory
Stealth Rock
Iron Defense
Hypnosis

Great Tank.

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Salamence @ Charcoal
Fly (soon too be stone edge or Earthquake)
Crunch
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower (Keeping)

Great physical sweeper; Flamethrower for emergencies.

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Electivire @ Focus Sash
Thunderbolt
Fire Punch
Earthquake
Focus Blast

This guy is terrible because it doesn't have egg moves. I'm thinking of swapping it for:

Future Shiny Gyarados @ ???
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Dance (Duh)
Waterfall

Better than my non-egg moved Electivire, for sure.

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Porygon-Z @ ???
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Tri Attack
Recover (Replace w/ Nasty Plot?)

Good special sweeper.

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Magmortar @ Expert Belt
Focus Blast
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Psychic

AWESOME special sweeper!!! Still EV'ing it w/ Calciums, though.

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Scizor @ Shell Bell
X-Scissor
Night Slash (Replace w/ Roost?)
Iron Head
Swords Dance

Standard but awesome physical sweeper.

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There's my team. Rate, but DON"T suggest egg moves! There too much of a hassle. If I was starting a new team from scratch, I'd use egg moves, but, well, I'm not. Do I talk too much? Yeah? Oh really? Rate away.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:34 PM).
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On Porygon-Z, replace Psychic with Ice Beam. Coverage against dragons like Salamence and Garchomp combined with Porygon's godly SpAtk is very useful to have. Also, Recover isn't good move for him- he doesn't have the Defenses to use it to the fullest. You can replace it with Nasty Plot, or you may want Dark Pulse for coverage against Ghosts.

And since Porygon-Z is the only Pokemon on this list I know, that's all the advice I can give (and it's probably bad advice ).
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:37 PM).
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Sorry, but DDgyara isn't nearly as scary as tauntrados...

Gyarados @ Leftovers
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Evs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Waterfall / Stone Edge / Ice Fang

Standard Tauntraods. Taunt PHazers like skarmory.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:38 PM).
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Wait, 16 ATK? Why only that?
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:40 PM).
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Wait, 16 ATK? Why only that?
That's the bulky spread, which I like much better. With adamant, you gain a lot of attack, and after one or two DDs...yeah, PWNAGE!!! That's pretty much it. It doesn't really need attack with adamant, DD, and its amazing attack base. You can give it more attack, I just prefer the bulky spread.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:42 PM).
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On Porygon-Z, replace Psychic with Ice Beam. Coverage against dragons like Salamence and Garchomp combined with Porygon's godly SpAtk is very useful to have. Also, Recover isn't good move for him- he doesn't have the Defenses to use it to the fullest. You can replace it with Nasty Plot, or you may want Dark Pulse for coverage against Ghosts.

And since Porygon-Z is the only Pokemon on this list I know, that's all the advice I can give (and it's probably bad advice
im prolly keeping ice beam, but the recover im getting rid of
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For magmortar, take out psychic. It has horrid coverage and isn't needed. Focus punch or WoW are good options, though you might have to do some item swapping.
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Sorry, but DDgyara isn't nearly as scary as tauntrados...

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Intimidate
Evs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Waterfall / Stone Edge / Ice Fang

Standard Tauntraods. Taunt PHazers like skarmory.
.....id rather not.....DDgyara is more of a sweeper
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Old October 6th, 2007 (1:47 PM).
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Here it is!

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Relaxed Nature
Gyro Ball
Calm Mind
Light Screen/Reflect
Hypnosis

Great Tank.

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Salamence @ Choice Specs. Never use 10% Items, they provide only a short boost
Hydo Pump
Dragon Pulse
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower/Fire Blast

Great physical sweeper; Flamethrower for emergencies.

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Electivire @ Focus Sash
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Focus Blast. Good.

This guy is terrible because it doesn't have egg moves. I'm thinking of swapping it for:

Future Shiny Gyarados All people care about are shinies these days.. @:Leftovers
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Dance (Duh)
Waterfall Replace something other then Earthquake or Dragon Dance for Taunt.

Better than my non-egg moved Electivire, for sure.

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Porygon-Z @: Choice Scarf/Specs
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse

Good special sweeper.

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Magmortar @: Leftovers
Focus Blast
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Will-o-Wisp With no physical moves, Expert Belt?

AWESOME special sweeper!!! Still EV'ing it w/ Calciums, though.

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Scizor @:Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
Adamant Nature
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Reverseal/Light Screen/Agility/Swords Dance
Baton Pass.

Standard but awesome physical sweeper.

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There's my team. Rate, but DON"T suggest egg moves! There too much of a hassle. If I was starting a new team from scratch, I'd use egg moves, but, well, I'm not. Do I talk too much? Yeah? Oh really? Rate away.


This Team fails. Or at least without help that is. Edit: You're pretty Stubborn if you want DDdos to be blown away. Then DD's effect will be gone.
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.....id rather not.....DDgyara is more of a sweeper
So is tauntrados. Any PHazer can come in, absorb a hit, and roar you away...you pretty much need taunt. After you taunt them, you have a free turn to power up while they helplessly switch. At that point, you can sweep teams that DDgyara cannot. It's that simple. I've used bhoth, DDgyara is fail IMO.

And you don't have any pokemon that can take a hit except bronzong...
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Hey Anti-Pop, what's the strategy for Tauntrados? I never understood why he needed Taunt.

EDIT: Nevermind. I am slow.
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Hey Anti-Pop, what's the strategy for Tauntrados? I never understood why he needed Taunt.
Just explained it above. Basically, it's so it can't get hazed/PHazed. Otherwise, skarm can come in, absorb a blow rather easily, and roar you away...
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Just explained it above. Basically, it's so it can't get hazed/PHazed. Otherwise, skarm can come in, absorb a blow rather easily, and roar you away...
That's exactly why I edited, you have taught me well, Anti.
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That's exactly why I edited, you have taught me well, Anti.
lol...tyranitar can run the same set...actually, one just swept my team because my beloved skarm couldn't PHaze it...which is exactly why taunt is needed.
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lol...tyranitar can run the same set...actually, one just swept my team because my beloved skarm couldn't PHaze it...which is exactly why taunt is needed.
Yep. And the purpose of Reverseal and other moves without Powering up is to pass on the effects of Swarm. Once it kicks in.
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The hell? Magmortar cannot sweep, it's way too slow.
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That is a shabby Brozong. He has no use for Iron Defence, as hus DEF is already too high. It will benifit greatly from Reflect. Halfing Physical attacks which he has no problem taking is better, since your entire team gets the boost.
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So is tauntrados. Any PHazer can come in, absorb a hit, and roar you away...you pretty much need taunt. After you taunt them, you have a free turn to power up while they helplessly switch. At that point, you can sweep teams that DDgyara cannot. It's that simple. I've used bhoth, DDgyara is fail IMO.

And you don't have any pokemon that can take a hit except bronzong...
ur right, but still. also, which nature? bold or mild? im leaning mild, altho both r terrible.....but its the only way i can get it to be shiny.
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If you have any pride as a battler, screw the shiny, grab your adamant ditto and breed some Magikraps.
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That is a shabby Brozong. He has no use for Iron Defence, as hus DEF is already too high. It will benifit greatly from Reflect. Halfing Physical attacks which he has no problem taking is better, since your entire team gets the boost.

ok, reflect it is.

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The hell? Magmortar cannot sweep, it's way too slow.
well, hes faster than gyarados (by 2 spd). gyrados can sweep, y not magmortar?

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lol, magiKRAP? anyway, i could just catch an addy (or jolly) gyarados w/ super rod. which nature?
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Gyara has DD, Magmortar has nothing and it is not as bulky as Gyara.
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If you have any pride as a battler, screw the shiny, grab your adamant ditto and breed some Magikraps.
Yeah...shiny is trophyific, nothing more. breed for adamant, as Cake said.
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Because Gya has Dragon Dance AND Taunt.

EDIT:DANG IT, CAKE BEAT ME...
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well, hes faster than gyarados (by 2 spd). gyrados can sweep, y not magmortar?



lol, magiKRAP? anyway, i could just catch an addy (or jolly) gyarados w/ super rod. which nature?
Way to not read. Dragon dance? That makes you have uber speed...magmortar doesn't have that. It needs to be scarfed or else.

Magikrap? How original. Too bad all gyaradoses start as magikarp. Hello? You have to breed for magikarp to get gyara...

Again, way to NOT read. Adamant!!!!!! ADAMANT. No jolly, adamant. End.
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