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Okay...yeah, my Netbattle team is finally looking solid and getting nice results. However, I need a better bulky water. My attention turned to swampert the hawt and pwnful, so I was wondering if anybody has a good 3rd gen Swampert set? I'd prefer mixedpert over cursepert, but my mind is too stupid to rememebr 3rd gen mixedpert, especially the dang EVs. Anybody have a good swampert set? Currently (don't laugh):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 20 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Yeah, I need some major help...
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Old October 6th, 2007 (2:59 PM).
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Okay...yeah, my Netbattle team is finally looking solid and getting nice results. However, I need a better bulky water. My attention turned to swampert the hawt and pwnful, so I was wondering if anybody has a good 3rd gen Swampert set? I'd prefer mixedpert over cursepert, but my mind is too stupid to rememebr 3rd gen mixedpert, especially the dang EVs. Anybody have a good swampert set? Currently (don't laugh):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 20 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Yeah, I need some major help...
60 Sp.Atk isn't gonna do anything. 120 HP/112 def/184 attack/92 special attack.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:00 PM).
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60 Sp.Atk isn't gonna do anything. 120 HP/112 def/184 attack/92 special attack.
I know for a fact swampert needs at least 240 HP EVs. And did you mean 60 base SAtk or my 60 EVs? I was thinking maybe 136, since 92 isn't much either.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:01 PM). Edited October 6th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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Okay...yeah, my Netbattle team is finally looking solid and getting nice results. However, I need a better bulky water. My attention turned to swampert the hawt and pwnful, so I was wondering if anybody has a good 3rd gen Swampert set? I'd prefer mixedpert over cursepert, but my mind is too stupid to rememebr 3rd gen mixedpert, especially the dang EVs. Anybody have a good swampert set? Currently (don't laugh):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 20 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Yeah, I need some major help...
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EVS: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 SpAtk
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:02 PM).
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Why would you ever use surf? Waterfall will do so much more damage.
Edit- Haha, my bad. 3rd gen xD
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:03 PM). Edited October 6th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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Why would you ever use surf? Waterfall will do so much more damage.
Edit- Haha, my bad. 3rd gen xD
Even on 4th gen mixpert, Surf does more damage than Waterfall to the majority of his fellow Ground types as they usually possess high Defense and poor Special Defense.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:06 PM). Edited October 6th, 2007 by Sora_8920.
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Why would you ever use surf? Waterfall will do so much more damage.
Edit- Haha, my bad. 3rd gen xD
Why do people not read? Seriously, it doesn't take long. Read through the whole Thread is what the rules say. At least this one posseses grammar.
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Old October 6th, 2007 (3:23 PM).
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There's no need to reprimand me, I retracted my statement. Besides, people make mistakes.
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There's no need to reprimand me, I retracted my statement. Besides, people make mistakes.
I'm not "reprimanding" you. And besides, people take the advice in this Forum, and move on. Next time, read through the whole post AND Thead.
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Oh calm down Itachi. She made an innocent simple mistake. And some people don't feel like typing perfect sentences on a forum. Saying "at least she used grammer" wasn't needed. She made a mistake, no need to jump on it.
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Oh calm down Itachi. She made an innocent simple mistake. And some people don't feel like typing perfect sentences on a forum. Saying "at least she used grammer" wasn't needed. She made a mistake, no need to jump on it.
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Ah, it's fine. He's right, I should have read the thead

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Ah, it's fine. He's right, I should have read the thead

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Well, doesn't Mixedpert or whatever the hell you call it need more sp.atk EV's?
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Sorry, I'm just screwing around. But that also means I'm spamming, so I'd better stop. :(
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Well, doesn't Mixedpert or whatever the hell you call it need more sp.atk EV's?
Yes, It does. 140 Special Attack/152 attack/216 HP or Def. The Attack and the Special Attack, have to be somewhat close together to make MixedPert work.
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Why Swampert, anyway? If you don't mind Blissey walling you, Suicune does a much better job, IMO.
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Why Swampert, anyway? If you don't mind Blissey walling you, Suicune does a much better job, IMO.
Except that MixedPert, has the Attack Ev's, and Earthquake to Ko Blissey sometime in the world with that humungous max Defense, and HP. 714/130. And that ensures it maxium survival. It's a god. Also, no Curse?
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Yes, It does. 140 Special Attack/152 attack/216 HP or Def. The Attack and the Special Attack, have to be somewhat close together to make MixedPert work.
evs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 SpAtk is all it needs to work, you dont need any Attack or that much Sp.Att EVS, the ev spread i provided is enough to 2hko Weezing, Skrmory and Foretress with its Special Attack. Whilst still killing things with STAB'd Earthquake

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20761

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Except that MixedPert, has the Attack Ev's, and Earthquake to Ko Blissey sometime in the world with that humungous max Defense, and HP. 714/130. And that ensures it maxium survival. It's a god. Also, no Curse?
I'd never use Swampert without curse. Curse makes physical attacks even less effective against Swampert, and gives earthquake a needed boost for high-defense enemies like Suicune.
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Okay...yeah, my Netbattle team is finally looking solid and getting nice results. However, I need a better bulky water. My attention turned to swampert the hawt and pwnful, so I was wondering if anybody has a good 3rd gen Swampert set? I'd prefer mixedpert over cursepert, but my mind is too stupid to rememebr 3rd gen mixedpert, especially the dang EVs. Anybody have a good swampert set? Currently (don't laugh):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 20 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Yeah, I need some major help...
How is it Cursepert without Curse, Anti?
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I'd never use Swampert without curse. Curse makes physical attacks even less effective against Swampert, and gives earthquake a needed boost for high-defense enemies like Suicune.
Without Special Attacks, Skarmory will just laugh at you and Whirlwind you away.
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evs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 SpAtk is all it needs to work, you dont need any Attack or that much Sp.Att EVS, the ev spread i provided is enough to 2hko Weezing, Skrmory and Foretress with its Special Attack.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20761

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EDIT: Also no curse because your gonna get phased by Skarmory anyways, so its better to dent it with Special attacks.
Wow, never expected so many replies just from going out to dinner...anyhow, Masami made a mistake, no harm no foul. Itachi, every bulky poklemon NEEDS HP EVs, usually over 200, and swampert simply can't take physical hits without a bit of defense. I'm using Dark Azelf's spread.

As for the moveset...Well, I'll read the link first.
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Wow, never expected so many replies just from going out to dinner...anyhow, Masami made a mistake, no harm no foul. Itachi, every bulky poklemon NEEDS HP EVs, usually over 200, and swampert simply can't take physical hits without a bit of defense. I'm using Dark Azelf's spread.

As for the moveset...Well, I'll read the link first.
The moveset on that is fourth gen, ive just added Rock Slide in place of Stone Edge Removed Stealth Rock and shoved Rest in its place.
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Wow, never expected so many replies just from going out to dinner...anyhow, Masami made a mistake, no harm no foul. Itachi, every bulky poklemon NEEDS HP EVs, usually over 200, and swampert simply can't take physical hits without a bit of defense. I'm using Dark Azelf's spread.

As for the moveset...Well, I'll read the link first.
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I'd prefer mixedpert over cursepert, but my mind is too stupid to rememebr 3rd gen mixedpert, especially the dang EVs. Anybody have a good swampert set? Currently (don't laugh):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 20 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Lol. Also, this was my spread: 140 Special Attack/152 attack/216 HP or Def. And that's the needed HP, 216.
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