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Old October 8th, 2007 (12:24 PM).
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Trait : Guts/Quick Feet
Nature : Adamant
Moves :
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- Stone Edge
- Substitute

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Edit: Garchomp = 102 Base Speed (higher than Mence/Flygon)
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Garchomp has 100 base speed...if you gave it jolly (Kingler I mean), you'd outspeed it. Adamant is better, but I see adamant on the dragons a lot more than jolly.

Um. Kingler's not a Dragon. And I like to use the better set's, Choice Scarf+252 speed is enough. Any more is going overboard.
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Um. Kingler's not a Dragon. And I like to use the better set's, Choice Scarf+252 speed is enough. Any more is going overboard.
Never siad kingler was a dragon lol, said that the dragons it can outspeed potentially (garchomp, Mence...) usually run adamant.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (12:28 PM). Edited October 8th, 2007 by Toothache.
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I think he's saying you'll be faster than the Dragons in this case. Since Salamence/Flygon (and a lot of other things) are at the base 100 speed range, it's definitely worth considering since most are neutral speed (299) rather than +Speed (328)

EDIT: with 102 base speed, Garchomp can still get 303 neutral or 333 with a +Speed nature. Scarfed Kingler still well outspeeds that, you won't even need to invest max Speed EV there. Neutral natured max speed Kingler looks at 249 base, or373 with CScarf. You can save yourself 104 EV if Garchomp is your target speed.
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So now we talk Kingler ?_?

Kingler@Choice Scarf/Life Orb
Trait : Hyper Cutter
Moves :
- Crabhammer
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break
- X Scissor(Only if this damn crab knew Night Slash...)

If you run Life Orb, take Substitute.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (12:33 PM).
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So now we talk Kingler ?_?

Kingler@Choice Scarf/Life Orb
Trait : Hyper Cutter
Moves :
- Crabhammer
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break
- X Scissor(Only if this damn crab knew Night Slash...)

If you run Life Orb, take Substitute.

Thanks, Name, for giving me the set's. I'll listen now. But the question is now, which one should we use?
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