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Old October 8th, 2007 (6:34 PM).
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Hey everyone! Im doing some team fixings as my other team didnt work out as well as I had hoped. Im changing 3 Pokemon, and some smaller rrevisions to the others.

Torkoal-Iron Ball
Relaxed-252 Defense, 252 HP, 4 Attack
Gyro Ball
Rapid Spin
EQ
Explosion

Rapid Spinner/Gyro Baller. Ouch.

Gallade-Choice Scarf
Adamant-252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Leaf Blade
Night Slash
Close Combat
Psycho Cut

Physical Sweeper. Bang Slam Ouch.

Dusknoir-Leftovers
Carefull-Ev help?
Shadow Sneak
Will"O"Wisp
Ice Punch
Pain Split

Special Wall. Ice Punch needed for specsmence and such.

Aerodactyl-Focus Sash
Jolly-252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Ice Fang

Its my SRer, and has served me well. And I prefer Rock Slide to Stone Edge because of accuracy.

Gengar-Focus Sash
Modest-252 Special attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Hypnosis
Energy Ball
Shaodw Ball
Focus Blast

Special Sweeper. Not working out as well with Wide Lens, to fragile.

Tangrowth-Leftovers
Bold-252 defense, 252 HP, 4 attack
Leech Seed
Stun Spore
Knock Off
Power Whip

My status inflictor/physical wall, I love it.

And help would be great!
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Old October 8th, 2007 (7:17 PM). Edited October 16th, 2007 by Waffle-San.
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Well it all looks good except.
I'd use TB instead of Energy Ball on Gengar. Not so sure about Ice punch on Dusknoir but I don't see it as absolutely horrible.

Dusknoir EV's
252 HP/200 Sp.Def/56 Atk-I'm no expert but since your looking for some power I'd give it a couple Atk EV's at the expense of it's amazing Sp.Def and not its horrid HP.

I'm not familiar with Tangrowth either.
And I'd still recomend Wide Lens on Gengar.

Just noticed something Bold Tangrowth?? O you fixed that.
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Old October 8th, 2007 (7:30 PM).
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Alright... the biggest problem here is your Gengar.

Don't make him Modest. He's in the same ballpark as Alakazam, where he does SO much more when he's able to outrun the enemy. Timid puts him at more of an advantage than Modest would. I would never use a Modest Gengar, or a Modest Alakazam. They're too fragile not to outrun the opponent.

Another thing, a Gengar without Thunderbolt is like a day without rain (and I love the rain!). If you want to use Hypnosis, replace Energy Ball. You could go for Choice Specs or even Choice Scarf, and run:

- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Energy Ball
- Focus Blast

Focus Blast with Choice Specs behind it really hurts Blissey.

You also may want to use a Fire move on Torkoal, for STAB and because Skarmory would see him as a free switch.
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Old October 9th, 2007 (10:23 AM).
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need a bigger spread of status inflicting moves rather than centering them all on tangrowth, just in case you come against an unexpected fire move
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Old October 9th, 2007 (10:36 AM).
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Umm, power whip is not a special attack. So a bold nature and no attack ev's means it will not cause much damage.
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Old October 9th, 2007 (10:46 AM). Edited October 9th, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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Hey everyone! Im doing some team fixings as my other team didnt work out as well as I had hoped. Im changing 3 Pokemon, and some smaller rrevisions to the others.

Torkoal-Leftovers
Relaxed-252 Defense, 252 HP, 4 Attack
Gyro Ball
Rapid Spin
EQ/Overheat
Explosion/Overheat

Rapid Spinner/Gyro Baller. Ouch.

Gallade-Choice Scarf
Adamant-252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Leaf Blade
Night Slash
Close Combat
Psycho Cut

Physical Sweeper. Bang Slam Ouch.

Looks Fine

Dusknoir-Leftovers
Carefull-252 HP / 76 DEF / 180 SPDEF
Shadow Sneak
Will"O"Wisp
Ice Punch
Pain Split

Special Wall. Ice Punch needed for specsmence and such.

All well and good coping with Specs Mence, but Taunt Gyarados will laugh at you if this is your last pokemon, which is why Thunderpuch is standard, ill leave this for you to decide

Aerodactyl-Focus Sash
Jolly-252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Ice Fang


Its my SRer, and has served me well. And I prefer Rock Slide to Stone Edge because of accuracy.

Fine, Stone Edge actully doesnt have that bad accuracy, i suggest you use it.

Gengar-Focus Sash/Petaya Perry
Timid-252 Special attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Hypnosis/Substitute
Thunderbolt
Shaodw Ball
Focus Blast/Hidden Power Ice

Special Sweeper. Not working out as well with Wide Lens, to fragile.

Mock Bolt-Beaming FTW


Tangrowth-Leftovers
Impish - 252 defense, 252 HP, 4 attack
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Power Whip

My status inflictor/physical wall, I love it.

Good but Sleep Powder>Stun Spore, it causes more switches, which you can take advantage of with Knock Off

And help would be great!
Changes are in bold (Filler Filler)


IMPISH Nature on Tangrowth with Power Whip Please
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Gallade needs Stone Edge to counters it's biggest threat of flying types. You should prbably remove Night slash, because it already has Psycho Cut to deal with Gengars and other ghost threats like Mismagius and Drifblim will be killed with ease by Stone Edge. Energy Ball isn't needed on Gengar.

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Old October 9th, 2007 (11:07 AM).
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Gallade needs Stone Edge to counters it's biggest threat of flying types. You should prbably remove Night slash, because it already has Psycho Cut to deal with Gengars and other ghost threats like Mismagius and Drifblim will be killed with ease by Stone Edge. Energy Ball isn't needed on Gengar.

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Wide Lens for Hypnosis and Focus Blast please. =/
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Wide Lens for Hypnosis and Focus Blast please. =/
Focus sash can actually work for those who likt to take their chances. But sandstream = death.
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Old October 9th, 2007 (11:41 AM).
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Focus sash can actually work for those who likt to take their chances. But sandstream = death.
But 4 HP is another thing. He has low defenses and HP, with 4 HP, he's not surviving anything. What do you except him to survive, Jimmyray?
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Old October 9th, 2007 (11:45 AM).
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But 4 HP is another thing. He has low defenses and HP, with 4 HP, he's not surviving anything. What do you except him to survive, Jimmyray?
That's kind of the point of focus sash...to survive hits it normally couldn't take.
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Replace Gallade's Psycho Cut with Stone Edge :)

Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens
Trait : Levitate
Nature : Timid/Naive/Hasty
Moves :
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt/Thunder (If you equip Wide Lens, use Thunder)
- Focus Blast

Standard 4th Generation Gengar

Aerodactyl@Focus Sash
Trait : Pressure
Nature : Jolly/Naive/Hasty
Moves :
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Stealth Rock/Ice Fang

Standard 4th Generation Aerodactyl
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Old October 9th, 2007 (3:00 PM).
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I meant Impoish Tangrowth XD thats what mine is already. And Stone Edges accuracy is 80, thats not that great. I prefer accuracy over power,thats just my strategy. And Gofre I have Will "O" Wisp on Dusknoir also. But revised team now would be

Torkoal-Iron Ball
Relaxed-252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 HP
Rapid Spin
Gyro Ball
Earthquake (I can hit flying types!)
Overheat

Gallade-Choice Scarf
Adamant-252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Leaf Blade
Night Slash
Close Combat
Stone Edge

Dusknoir-Leftovers
Careful-252 HP, 180 Spdef, 76 HP
Ice Punch
Shadow Sneak
Will "O" Wisp
Pain Split

Aerodactyl-Focus Sash
Jolly-252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
Stealth Rock
EQ
Rock Slide
Crunch

Tangrowth-Leftovers
Impish-252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Power Whip
Leech Seed

Gengar-Focus Sash
Timid-252 Special Attack, 252 speed
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
HP Ice
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I meant Impoish Tangrowth XD thats what mine is already. And Stone Edges accuracy is 80, thats not that great. I prefer accuracy over power,thats just my strategy. And Gofre I have Will "O" Wisp on Dusknoir also. But revised team now would be

Torkoal-Iron Ball
Relaxed-252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 HP
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Gyro Ball
Earthquake (I can hit flying types!)
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No, no you can't.
Re-read what Iron Ball does and use some logic.





That means: If YOU'RE holding a really, really, really, REALLY, heavy Iron Ball, and the enemy is flying in the air, who's the one who's stuck on the ground?
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No, no you can't.
Re-read what Iron Ball does and use some logic.





That means: If YOU'RE holding a really, really, really, REALLY, heavy Iron Ball, and the enemy is flying in the air, who's the one who's stuck on the ground?
Then iron ball would have no upside, except making you slow...but really, a 0 IV and relaxed does that to you :/

Really...but yeah, lefties is probably the best option for the steel snake anyways.
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Then iron ball would have no upside, except making you slow...but really, a 0 IV and relaxed does that to you :/

Really...but yeah, lefties is probably the best option for the steel snake anyways.
Actually, it's a lava-turtle.
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Actually, it's a lava-turtle.
I was thinking of steelix...lol...further proof it's time to go to bed...lol...but yeah.
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I have found that the entire purpose for Gallade's Psycho Cut was designed for Weezing O_o
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I just grabbed it, Stien Edge makes more sense in the end, and Iron Ball makes flying.levitating Pokemon vulnerable to ground moves, see this is off serebii

Iron ball-Lowers users speed and makes LEvitating Pokemon and Flying Pokemon be hit by ground moves. So Iron ball could make me hit flying types with EQ.
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I just grabbed it, Stien Edge makes more sense in the end, and Iron Ball makes flying.levitating Pokemon vulnerable to ground moves, see this is off serebii

Iron ball-Lowers users speed and makes LEvitating Pokemon and Flying Pokemon be hit by ground moves. So Iron ball could make me hit flying types with EQ.
Iron Ball does that to YOUR Pokemon, not the opponent's :\ Use common-sense XD
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Old October 16th, 2007 (5:04 PM).
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Bleeugh, that is dumb of me. It would be awesome if it did though. Meh, a week away from PC and my mind isnt working Pokemon.
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Gallade needs Stone Edge to counters it's biggest threat of flying types. You should prbably remove Night slash, because it already has Psycho Cut to deal with Gengars and other ghost threats like Mismagius and Drifblim will be killed with ease by Stone Edge. Energy Ball isn't needed on Gengar.

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Psycho Cut does not handle Mismagius and Drifblim.That is why Night Slash is a must.
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Psycho Cut does not handle Mismagius and Drifblim.That is why Night Slash is a must.
Mismagius is far too fragile to survive a STABed psycho cut from gallade. Drifblim...yeah, psycho cut does not so much, but still a decent amount. Not anything great AT ALL, but decent. Jimmyray has a lot to learn, but is no n00b (not to say you said that, just pointing it out). It's personal preference.
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Old October 17th, 2007 (5:30 PM).
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So leftovers on Torkoal then? Bleeugh, I HATE breeding, stupid IVs, and stupid not finding adamant ralts, I have a Jolly one with awesome IV's, but the wrong ability, so im gonna keep breeding.
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It doesn't matter about the ability,because Gallade only has Steadfast.
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