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Old October 17th, 2007 (1:13 PM). Edited October 17th, 2007 by Jirro.
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Im new to the whole wi-fi battle thing and i could use some help on my team like what move sets to use and the best skills to EV train them in.

Heres who i want for my team
Porygon-z
Gallade
Riolu
Squirtle
??????
??????

What natures and movesets held items ect. would be best for them
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Im new to the whole wi-fi battle thing and i could use some help on my team like what move sets to use and the best skills to EV train them in.

Heres my team so far:
Porygon-Z
Gallade
Riolu
Squirtle
??????
??????

I havent touched any of them because i wanna know the best way to set them up before i do anything with them and if u have any ideas who i could use for my 2 open slots plz let me know
Movesets, Natures, and such?
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AND Express them as in their full evolutionary stage. Like Riolu to Lucario, don't say team so far, just plan it with us
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Old October 17th, 2007 (2:37 PM).
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Well for a start, Adamant is the worst possible nature to have on Porygon-Z. Modest or Timid is better.
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Old October 17th, 2007 (2:39 PM).
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Well for a start, Adamant is the worst possible nature to have on Porygon-Z. Modest or Timid is better.
Yuppers. and modest on gallade aint so hot either. Modest for scarfed pory Z...really, it depends on the set you give it. If you'd post the sets, we could help much more. You have nothing besides blastoise that can take a hit...meaning you need some walls.
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Here's a good PZ set:

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Timid Nature
Trait: Adaptibility
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Tri-Attack
Hidden Power [Fighting]/Shadow Ball
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Old October 17th, 2007 (2:51 PM).
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Here's a good PZ set:

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Timid Nature
Trait: Adaptibility
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Tri-Attack
Hidden Power [Fighting]/Shadow Ball
Dark Pulse over Shadow Ball
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Old October 17th, 2007 (2:55 PM).
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Porygon-Z
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EV's: 252 Spd, 252 SA, 6 HP
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-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Tri Attack
-Nasty Plot

With his great Special Attack, PZ can get some nice hits in, especially with STAB Tri Attack which hits most Pokemon with neutral damage. He'll be even more of a challenge after you apply Nasty Plot.

Gallade
[email protected] Lens
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 SD
~Steadfast
-Close Combat
-Psycho Cut
-Leaf Blade/Night Slash
-Swords Dance

Pretty much the same as above, but a Physical variant. I don't see a problem with using Scope Lens myself, but if you or your opponent are, I'd replace it with Leftovers or Expert Belt.

Lucario
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EV's: 252 SA, 252 Spd
~Steadfast
-Luster Cannon
-Aura Sphere
-Dragon Pulse/Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball/Psychic
-Me First

I kind of like this set myself. The first two for STAB, and the third spot is best determined by looking at the weaknesses of your teammates. Me First can also be pretty handy for surprising opponents. I remember when mine took out a Metagross by copying Earthquake, XD. Because Me First could copy a Physical attack, I put Rash instead of Modest. In my experience anything able to hit Lucario usually OHKO's it, so Defence isn't much of a priority anyways.

Blastoise
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EV's: 252 SD, 252 Def
~Torrent
-Mirror Coat
-Counter
-Surf/Aqua Tail
-Ice Beam

You'll need Emerald to get Counter, first off. But it you can, this guy can dish out some damage. His defences are great, and he can absorb many attacks. He should be able to withstand a non-STAB'ed Thunderbolt, so he can shoot it back in the opponent's face.
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.. Modest on Porygon-Z WIthout Agility without Salac Berry without Choice Scarf is complete suicide. After setting up the Nasty Plot, you will be forced to switch when anything with a base speed over 100 comes out and glares at you. Leftovers is horrible on Porygon-Z

Scope Lens IS a hax Item :P but Scarf Gallade is now the best

Gallade@Choice Scarf
Trait : Steadfast
Moves :
- Stone Edge
- Psycho Cut/Leaf Blade (Psycho Cut for Weezing and Leaf Blade for Swampert)
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
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Im new to the whole wi-fi battle thing and i could use some help on my team like what move sets to use and the best skills to EV train them in.

Heres my team so far:
Porygon-Z-Adamant
Gallade-Modest
Riolu-Adamant
Squirtle-Gental
??????
??????

I havent touched any of them because i wanna know the best way to set them up before i do anything with them and if u have any ideas who i could use for my 2 open slots plz let me know
Porygon-Z @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest/Timid Nature
EV's 6HP/252SP.ATK/252SPD
- Nasty Plot
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam/Hyper Beam/Hidden Power Fighting..

Gallade @ Expert Belt/Life Orb/Leftovers/Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Night Slash
- Hypnosis/Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp/Stone Edge.. There are others, but i'm taking a brief one on this Post..

Lucario @ Salac Berry
Trait: Inner Focus
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Close Combat
- Crunch/Rock Slide
- Swords Dance
- Substitute

Or

Lucario @ Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Blaze Kick/Extremespeed..

Or

Lucario @ Choice Specs
Trait: Steadfast
Modest Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Aura Sphere
- Dark Pulse
- Psychic
- Dragon Pulse/HP Ice..

Or

Lucario @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Extremespeed
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Crunch/Stone Edge..

Or the Reversal set..

Lucario @ Salac Berry
Trait: Inner Focus
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Endure/Substitute
- Reversal
- Swords Dance
- Crunch.. dang, that's a lot of set's Smogon posted...

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic/Ice Beam
- Protect/Rest..

Or

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk..

Even though the idea of a Choice set on Blastoise makes me laugh, I will post it..

Blastoise @ Choice Specs/Scarf
Trait: Torrent
Modest Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Electric/Grass
- Focus Blast/Hydro Cannon.. Egh. I feel embaressed posting this...

Or Physical.. Choice...

Blastoise @ Choice Band/Scarf
Trait: Torrent
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Waterfall
- Avalanch
- Earthquake
- Earthquake
- Aqua Jet.. These set's make me wanna Barf. But it's Smogon, after all..
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Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic/Ice Beam
- Protect/Rest..

Or

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk..

Even though the idea of a Choice set on Blastoise makes me laugh, I will post it..

Blastoise @ Choice Specs/Scarf
Trait: Torrent
Modest Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Electric/Grass
- Focus Blast/Hydro Cannon.. Egh. I feel embaressed posting this...

Or Physical.. Choice...

Blastoise @ Choice Band/Scarf
Trait: Torrent
Adamant Nature (+Attack -Special Attack)
- Waterfall
- Avalanch
- Earthquake
- Earthquake
- Aqua Jet.. These set's make me wanna Barf. But it's Smogon, after all..[/B]
Who came up with those sets? Smogon apparently. Really, blastoise can't attack...or attack WELL anyways. Restalk blastoise is really pretty sad too...though it's usable at least. Just don't use the attacking sets, or you WILL get burnt. Blastoise is a UU defensive pokemon for a reason.
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Who came up with those sets? Smogon apparently. Really, blastoise can't attack...or attack WELL anyways. Restalk blastoise is really pretty sad too...though it's usable at least. Just don't use the attacking sets, or you WILL get burnt. Blastoise is a UU defensive pokemon for a reason.
Yeah. I said at the end of the post it's Smogon.. It was the only resource I could find..

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold/Relaxed Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin/Mirror Coat..
- Yawn/Haze/Protect. And that was on my own... Protect to.. Well it's pretty obviosus. To Stall, wasn't it? Yawn to last awile like Protect, and Haze to eleminatee Stats changes that OHKO Blastoise.. Rapid Spin for a Spikes/Stealth Rock/Counter.. Surr for STAB. Ice Beam for Grass Type coverage...
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Yeah. I said at the end of the post it's Smogon.. It was the only resource I could find..

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold/Relaxed Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Yawn/Haze And that was on my own... Protect to.. Well it's pretty obviosus. To Stall, wasn't it? Yawn to last awile like Protect, and Haze to eleminatee Stats changes that OHKO Blastoise.. Rapid Spin for a Spikes/Stealth Rock/Counter.. Surr for STAB. Ice Beam for Grass Type coverage...
the set has a few moves edited out...but IMO, that's the best set for blastoise. there are a few good ones...as good of a resource as smogon is, those were bad movesets...but yeah, standard is good for blastoise.
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ROFL!! Smogon gave that moveset for Gallade? LOLOL!!
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ROFL!! Smogon gave that moveset for Gallade? LOLOL!!
there were some pretty bad sets. Nonetheless, I like this on Pory Z:

Porygon Z @ Choice Scarf ** Pory Z
Trait: Download???
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Tri attack
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Scarfed FTW!
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Porygon-Z@Salac Berry/Focus Sash/Life Orb/Choice Scarf
EV's : 212HP / 152 SP. ATK / 152 SPD (You can arrange this in MANY different ways)
Trait : Adapdability/Download
Moves :
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Tri Attack
- Endure/Nasty Plot/Agility/Dark Pulse
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Porygon-Z@Salac Berry/Focus Sash/Life Orb/Choice Scarf
EV's : 212HP / 152 SP. ATK / 152 SPD (You can arrange this in MANY different ways)
Trait : Adapdability/Download
Moves :
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Tri Attack
- Endure/Nasty Plot/Agility/Dark Pulse
Of course, that works too.

For gallade, there's either status gallade or scarf gallade. You choose. Leaf blase is a cool addition though.
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Of course, that works too.

For gallade, there's either status gallade or scarf gallade. You choose. Leaf blase is a cool addition though.
Going Leaf Blade = ALWAYS go Stone Edge
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Going Leaf Blade = ALWAYS go Stone Edge
I go for cool points, which is my ultimate downfall in battling. But leaf blade is nice if nothing you have beats swampert, though gallade is no swampert counter.
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I go for cool points, which is my ultimate downfall in battling. But leaf blade is nice if nothing you have beats swampert, though gallade is no swampert counter.
Curse=Stall time for Swampert. But then he could just Ice Beam you for the heck of it.

Gallade @ Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
Jolly Nature
- Psycho Cut
- Stone Edge
- Leaf Blade
- Close Combat..

Porygon-Z @ Chople Berry/Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest/Timid Nature
- Recover/Tri Attack
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt. I like cereal..
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Curse=Stall time for Swampert. But then he could just Ice Beam you for the heck of it.

Gallade @ Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
Jolly Nature
- Psycho Cut
- Stone Edge
- Leaf Blade
- Close Combat..

Porygon-Z @ Chople Berry/Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest/Timid Nature
- Recover/Tri Attack
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt. I like cereal..
Two Tbolts???

And ice beam does squat to gallade...115 base SDef is nothing to laugh at. It's EQ...
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Curse=Stall time for Swampert. But then he could just Ice Beam you for the heck of it.

Gallade @ Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
Jolly Nature
- Psycho Cut
- Stone Edge
- Leaf Blade
- Close Combat..

Porygon-Z @ Chople Berry/Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Adaptibility
Modest/Timid Nature
- Recover/Tri Attack
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt. I like cereal..
Why in the world did you take out Night Slash on Gallade? For goodness sakes, Gallade is suppose to go...

Gallade@Choice Scarf/Choice Band
Trait : Steadfast
Moves :
- Stone Edge
- Leaf Blade/Psycho Cut (Leaf Blade = Swampert, Psycho Cut = Weezing)
- Close Combat
- Night Slash

This set should ALWAYS be used if you aren't going to Speed pass
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