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Old October 17th, 2007 (8:47 PM). Edited October 18th, 2007 by KingFlygon.
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Well, I sort of went inactive and now I'm back. I just need to know what you think about this team. ITs altered alot since my last RMT here.

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Fire Fang
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
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Sword Dance Garchomp. Fire Fang is my preference even though he is walled by Skarmory. Dragon Claw and EQ for stab. AS of now, he is my lead, and so far has worked wonders by deminoshing an pesky Ninjasks before things get out of hand. IF you think I have a better lead, then tell me please. Finished.

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252 Sp. attack 252 speed
Hypnosis
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

Don't say anything about the nature. I really don't give a dam. I know most people have Timid Gengar, but gengar has worked amazing, so just don't even mention it. Hynosis for sleep purposes and everything else for type coverage. Finished

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Bold
Typical EV spread ( Don't remember)
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam

Typical Blissey. I don't really need to say anything. Finished.

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Again, typical EV spread I don't remember
Aerial Ace? ( I can't get Drill Peck)
Roost/Spikes?
Stealth Rock
Whirlwind

Typical Skarmory. I can't get Drill Peck, so is aerial Ace fine? I prefer stealth rock as it killed Yanmega and a Charizard for me. Roost or Stelth Rock is questionable. I can't decide. I currently knows Roost. Finished

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Sucker Punch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

My Metagross counter. Sucker Punch to pick off weak pokes and EQ for STAB. Everything else for type coverage. In process ( needs Stone Edge and Aerial Ace)

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212 HP 252 Defense 44 Sp attack
Slack Off
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam

Bulky Water Slowbro. Some people say Calm Mind is good, but I prefer this move set. Ice Beam has better type coverage than Ice Beam as I'm told, so Ice Beam over Psychic I guess.


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OMG! MODEST?! LOLOLOLOL NOOB!

Just kidding. Though I still say Timid, but that, of course, is on you. I can't find any glaring weaknesses, although Drill Peck>Aerial Ace IMO.
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OMG! MODEST?! LOLOLOLOL NOOB!

Just kidding. Though I still say Timid, but that, of course, is on you. I can't find any glaring weaknesses, although Drill Peck>Aerial Ace IMO.

Well, yeah, Drill Peck is better than aerial ace, but if I can't get drill peck, is aerial ace the next best choice.

Gengar kicks *ss. I've actually out sped another gengar before, so GET OVER IT!! I prefer Modest even though it may not be the best choice. Sorry.
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Jeez, it was a joke. Did ya see where it said the choice is up to you?

Aerial Ace, if ya can't do better. Sure.
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Jeez, it was a joke. Did ya see where it said the choice is up to you?

Aerial Ace, if ya can't do better. Sure.
ok sorry. Is steel wing even a choice on skarm or is aerial ace better?
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No. Ace is MUCH better. No one uses Steel Wing.
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No. Ace is MUCH better. No one uses Steel Wing.
didn't think so. Anything else?
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I am so tired, this'll be the last thing I say tonight.

I hear Wide Lens is great on Gengar. At least when ya use Hypnosis. But if you really want Modest, Focus Sash might be better.

Good night, & good luck.
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Well, I sort of went inactive and now I'm back. I just need to know what you think about this team. ITs altered alot since my last RMT here.

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Hasty
252 Attack 252 Speed
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
Earthquake
Needs more Dugtrio for lead as this looks like your main sweeper.
Fire Blast for more damage to Skarm imo.


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252 Sp. attack 252 speed
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Timid Nature. Wide Lens. DO IT.

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212 HP / 216 Def / 80 SAtk
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Ice Beam
You'll probably need another filler in place of Seismic Toss because Aromatherapy on Blissey is IMPORTANT. And since you'd have to rebreed, and there are no S-Toss Move Tutors on D/P...

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Again, typical EV spread I don't remember
Aerial Ace? (I can't get Drill Peck) (Oh yes you can)
Roost
Stealth Rock
Whirlwind
...How can you not get Drill Peck? Go. Get. A FEAROW.

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Adamant
252 Speed 252 attack
Sucker Punch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

I like Night Slash better instead of Sucker Punch.

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Bold
212 HP 252 Defense 44 Sp Defense
Slack Off
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam
If you're not running Calm Mind, then you need more Sp. Defense.

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thanks, but like I said, some of these pokemon are already complete, so restarting skarmory for 20 more power is just plain rediculous. Gengar has MOdest nature, so get over it.

Dugtrio for lead? I'm not doubting you, but can you explain why dugtrio would make a good lead?
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First off, remove Gengar. Don't post it if you don't want suggestions. Dugtrio is speedy, hits kinda hard, and most of all, won't killl your team if you lose it.

Also, there is no point rating if you won't be flexible. That 20 (20?!) base power difference will save your Skar from getting wiped out by things it should've been taking out.
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First off, remove Gengar. Don't post it if you don't want suggestions. Dugtrio is speedy, hits kinda hard, and most of all, won't killl your team if you lose it.

Also, there is no point rating if you won't be flexible. That 20 (20?!) base power difference will save your Skar from getting wiped out by things it should've been taking out.
ok sorry. Chill out. You don't have to flip. I can be flexible, but there is no point in telling me that Gengar needs Timid nature if I fricken know that! Mybe, you know, just maybe, I like to have Gengar with a Modest nature! Its really personal preference, just like choosing thunder punch or thunder bolt on electivire. Your team can't be perfect, so just drop the gengar thing!
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Nobody's flipping. I don't know why you ignore the helpful things I post. As I said, if you are THAT content with Modest, don't post it. People WILL comment on it.

You pretty much shot down all advice, because those pokes are already complete. This is why I say "be flexible". If your not willing to re-breed, not much can be changed. Now I explained why Dugtrio is a great lead, and why Drill Peck is better. In my above post.
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I'm looking at your team and whatnot... if you want a Skarm w\ Drill peck, I can breed it for you... it'll have the moveset: Drill Peck, Stealth Rock, Roost, Whirlwind.

PM me if you want it... I like the looks of you team overall... looks like it can hold its ground in many circumstances. just watch out for things like a rain dancing Kingdra..
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Nobody's flipping. I don't know why you ignore the helpful things I post. As I said, if you are THAT content with Modest, don't post it. People WILL comment on it.

You pretty much shot down all advice, because those pokes are already complete. This is why I say "be flexible". If your not willing to re-breed, not much can be changed. Now I explained why Dugtrio is a great lead, and why Drill Peck is better. In my above post.
I know. Thanks, I will use Dugtrio as lead. I guess I could consider rebreeding if you are that content on me restarting my shiny IV'd Skarmory just to get drill peck.

And just I question, why do I need more sp. defense if Slowbro is a Defensive Wall? And what would I get rid of if I put up Calm Mind?
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If you REALLY like Skar, it can funtion as is.

If you REALLY like that Gar, for the love of God, give it Focus Sash. Without Timid, my Raichu outspeeds it. I can then wipe it out with a Nasty Plot/Thunderbolt. So Modest NEEDS Focus Sash.

As for Slowbro...ask Iceman.
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ok, then Focus Sash it is. Thanks. But my Gengar is NOT unless as it has beaten many pokemon before and with a strategy, it can hold its own. So, I understand your opion and I understand why it pleads timid, but unless I can find an really good gengar in replace of it, then I'll just stick with him.

And even with Drill Peck skarmory still can't pawn pokemon except for maybe heracross, but I also understand that it works better with drill peck.
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I never said it was useless. Just fragile.

As I said, a SHINY Skarmory can funtion without Drill Peck.
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Fire Fang
Dragon Claw
Sword Dance
Earthquake

Sword Dance Garchomp. Fire Fang is my preference even though he is walled by Skarmory. Dragon Claw and EQ for stab. AS of now, he is my lead, and so far has worked wonders by deminoshing an pesky Ninjasks before things get out of hand. IF you think I have a better lead, then tell me please. Finished.

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Modest
252 Sp. attack 252 speed
Hypnosis
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

Don't say anything about the nature. I really don't give a dam. I know most people have Timid Gengar, but gengar has worked amazing, so just don't even mention it. Hynosis for sleep purposes and everything else for type coverage. Finished

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Bold
Typical EV spread ( Don't remember)
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam

Typical Blissey. I don't really need to say anything. Finished.

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Impish
Again, typical EV spread I don't remember
Aerial Ace? ( I can't get Drill Peck)
Roost/Spikes?
Stealth Rock
Whirlwind

Typical Skarmory. I can't get Drill Peck, so is aerial Ace fine? I prefer stealth rock as it killed Yanmega and a Charizard for me. Roost or Stelth Rock is questionable. I can't decide. I currently knows Roost. Finished

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Sucker Punch
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212 HP 252 Defense 44 Sp attack
Slack Off
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam

Bulky Water Slowbro. Some people say Calm Mind is good, but I prefer this move set. Ice Beam has better type coverage than Ice Beam as I'm told, so Ice Beam over Psychic I guess.


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Timid is ALWAYs on Gengar

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball/Energy Ball
- Focus Blast/Dark Pulse..

Ice Beam over Ice Beam?

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
Calm Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Grass Knot...

Dugrio is pretty much fine.. Night Slash over Sucker Punch..

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Hidden Power Flying
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost....



Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
Hasty/Naive Nature
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- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake. Standard ScarfChomp...
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Timid is ALWAYs on Gengar

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball/Energy Ball
- Focus Blast/Dark Pulse..

Ice Beam over Ice Beam?

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
Calm Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Grass Knot...

Dugrio is pretty much fine.. Night Slash over Sucker Punch..

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Hidden Power Flying
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Roost....



Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
Hasty/Naive Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake. Standard ScarfChomp...

No comment to the timid gengar >_<
Dugtrio Night slash? ***uldn't Sucker Punch make more sense? It always goes first, but I guess I'll switch it.
Skarmory can't have hidden power flying. That's a special attack.
Garchomp is sword dance garchomp. What would the moveset for a sword dance garchomp be?
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Itachi is haviong a genration crisis since he plays both 3rd and 4th gen jk

Gengar needs timid to outspeed a truckload of stuff...I won't list them all, but without the extra speed, gengar will fall VERY quickly, even with focus sash.
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god! People are so damn persistant! Fine I'll switch Gengar for a better Gengar just to get people of my fricken back!
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Itachi is haviong a genration crisis since he plays both 3rd and 4th gen jk

Gengar needs timid to outspeed a truckload of stuff...I won't list them all, but without the extra speed, gengar will fall VERY quickly, even with focus sash.
Yes. This is true, and an understatement. Without outspeeding, and killing his opponent. He's doomed. OHKO ftw. Hypnosis, though, helps you to last longer with Gengar. Wide lens to increase that poor accuracy. Gengar begs to hit.
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Gengar needs timid to outspeed a truckload of stuff...I won't list them all, but without the extra speed, gengar will fall VERY quickly, even with focus sash.
Especially against Swords Dance Focus Sashed Infernape
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