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Old October 20th, 2007 (8:45 AM).
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Scizor
Brave Nature
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash
Swords Dance


Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake


Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Sky Uppercut


Charizard
Quiet Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Heat Rock
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Flamethrower
Air Slash
Sunny Day
Solarbeam


Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace
Brave Bird
U-Turn


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Revised team, unless I missed anything?

The choices for the sixth slot now are:

Xatu
Salamence
Mence over Xa...

Looking at the list, looks good in my book. Let's wait for the others though, they actually might have other views on that.....
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Old October 20th, 2007 (8:48 AM).
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Scizor
Brave Nature
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash
Swords Dance


Did you even read our posts? Air slash was a mistake, eh? And those EVs aren't good :/ Needs more HP.

Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake


USE THE STANDARD! That is a terrible set. Really, just use the standard...and those EVs make it tough for it to survive. King's rock is a hax item...and is banned :/

Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Sky Uppercut


More hax items? You whine about sky uppercut, and then don't even change it? Wow...

Charizard
Quiet Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Heat Rock
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Flamethrower
Air Slash
Sunny Day
Solarbeam


Sunnybeaming...FAILS.

Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace
Brave Bird
U-Turn


Brave bird AND Aerial ace? Double edge people...

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Revised team, unless I missed anything?

The choices for the sixth slot now are:

Xatu
Salamence
Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.

EDIT: Not to mention you STILL have no walls...
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Old October 20th, 2007 (8:50 AM).
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Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.
This post, is an understatement.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest/Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
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Old October 20th, 2007 (8:52 AM).
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Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.

EDIT: Not to mention you STILL have no walls...
Have to agree there, after looking at the modified moves... Wow... Nuff said..

More to come....
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Old October 20th, 2007 (8:53 AM).
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This post, is an understatement.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest/Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
Really though, Mence with scarf is outclassed by Scarfchomp...but really, I firmly believe CBmence is better...
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Old October 20th, 2007 (9:00 AM).
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Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
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Old October 20th, 2007 (9:03 AM).
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Really though, Mence with scarf is outclassed by Scarfchomp...but really, I firmly believe CBmence is better...
Point taken. Double-Edge is useless on Staraptor, Shamfrit.
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Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
Do you even know what hax is? King's rock just uses luck...no skill. It's a n00b item...NEVER USE.

Why didn't you even bother to read what I said?

EDIT: Itachi, how is a STABed, life orb/CB powered, 120 base power move useless on staraptor?
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EDIT: Itachi, how is a STABed, life orb/CB powered, 120 base power move useless on staraptor?
Doesn't Staraptor already have a STABed, life orb/CB powered 120 base power move in the form of Brave Bird? I don't think Staraptor really needs two of the same thing.
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Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
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Doesn't Staraptor already have a STABed, life orb/CB powered 120 base power move in the form of Brave Bird? I don't think Staraptor really needs two of the same thing.
Maybe so, but it is a strong STABed attack. Return can always be used if you dislike recoil. Meh, what do I know...
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Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
Actually, it's because they're unreliable, and therefore a waste of space. Trust me, that's how every newbie reacts when they find out about hax items. Hell, I said the exact same thing when I first heard about this.
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Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
IT's because they rely on luck and only n00bs use them. You win with skill, not luck...good players do anyways :/
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For a wall you can use torkoal or atleast weezing with fire blast.
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Rapidash
Timid Nature
Flash Fire
Item Slot: Undecided
EVS: (When I get around to doing it...252 Speed, 252 Attack.)

Flare Blitz
Hypnosis
Horn Drill
Bounce


Bounce has to be there for the flying requirement, and it took alot of effort to get Hypnosis and Horn Drill on one...>.<
1) OHKO moves fail
2) Hp [flying]>bounce
2 turn moves fail also
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1) OHKO moves fail
2) Hp [flying]>bounce
2 turn moves fail also
He isn't using rapidash anymore :/

We've already said that a bagillion times :/
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Old October 20th, 2007 (5:23 PM). Edited October 20th, 2007 by ThePlaya.
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Rapidash
Timid Nature Go for JOLLY NATURE.You defenitely don't want to decrease its attack knowing that you have physical moves.Go for JOLLY.
Flash Fire
Item Slot: Undecided
EVS: (When I get around to doing it...252 Speed, 252 Attack.)

Flare Blitz
Hypnosis
Horn Drill OHKO moves aren't really liked by people here and wouldn't let you use them about 99.999999% percent of the time.Go for something like Megahorn.
Bounce
Its a 2 turn attack so somebody can easily switch out to counter that move.I suggest something like Poison Jab.Or Will-o-Wisp.

Bounce has to be there for the flying requirement, and it took alot of effort to get Hypnosis and Horn Drill on one...>.<

Scizor
Brave Nature. Go for adamant because brave nature lowers his speed and you don't want that.Adamant lowers sp.attack and he has no use for sp.attack.
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash I would suggest Aerial ace due to the fact that Air slash is a sp.attack and Scizor is good w/physical moves and poor in special moves.And you evd traind it in Attack.And aeiral ace never misses.Swords Dance


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Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Giga Impact. Get Dragon dance. It will give it an attack and speed boost.
Flamethrower
???Get Fire fang since flamethower because it is not good w/special attacks.
Aqua Tail (Accuracy down in trade for the added attack boost.). I would prefer waterfall becuase of its accuracy.
Earthquake


Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Swagger
Sky uppercut dude.

Charizard And here is my favourite poke chairzard.
Quiet Nature.[B] Go for MODEST or TIMID.
Blaze
Item Slot: Undecided.Charocoal
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Blast Burn Flamethrower!!!Why would you want Blast burn since you have to recharg and that is enough time to k.o. it easily.
Fly NO NO NO NO NO!!!!Who puts Fly on charizard.Dragon pulse!!!You need to counter those mean ol dragons!!
Sunny DayAir Slash becuase of those pesky fighting types.And its a stab.
Solarbeam
I would prefer Heat wave for double battles.

(Surprise against water/ground and so on -)

Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace Brave Bird.Thats all i have to say.
Foresight Id say pursuit over astonish and foresight.
Astonish
U-turn.Its just better than astonish.

I've got a Xatu on the go - and i've got a few evs to train yet, but this is what i'm aiming for, any suggestions?
Well this is what i think you should do.Hope i helped.;)
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Sorry, but nonononono is my trademark line :)

Good rate, but he isn't using rapidash anymore :/
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Old October 21st, 2007 (12:05 AM).
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I like the idea of Mence, but you really need a special wall. My Starmie rapes this team.
Scizor - Tbolt
Gyarados - Tbolt
Blaziken - Surf
Charizard - Surf
Staraptor - Tbolt
Mence - Ice beam
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I like the idea of Mence, but you really need a special wall. My Starmie rapes this team.
Scizor - Tbolt
Gyarados - Tbolt
Blaziken - Surf
Charizard - Surf
Staraptor - Tbolt
Mence - Ice beam
This is true, and bolt-beaming isn't exactly a good weakness. Especially Starmie.. Claydol is your friend...

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Trait: Levitate
Relaxed Nature
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball/Rest..
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