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Old October 21st, 2007 (3:57 AM).
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Would it work? I just hatched it. What level should I Rare Candy it to have accurate results? Or should I use Metalkid's cacultor? Edit: And Naive is a speed increasing Nature too..
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Something like , errrmm


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252 SPEED / 58 SP.ATT / 200 ATT
Naive Nature
- Leaf Storm / Focus Blast
- Leaf Blade
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch


probably not...........
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Something like , errrmm


[email protected] Orb
252 SPEED / 58 SP.ATT / 200 ATT
Naive Nature
- Leaf Storm / Focus Blast
- Leaf Blade
- Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse
- Crunch


probably not...........
Mixed Sweeper? Sounds nice. What should I do to get accurate results on the IV's?
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Mixed Sweeper? Sounds nice. What should I do to get accurate results on the IV's?
Ill either do an Iv battle with you, or you can do metal kids calculator like you said. I personally level it up to 20 im the Daycare to get a decent idea of what they are and check on an online stat calculator.
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Ill either do an Iv battle with you, or you can do metal kids calculator like you said. I personally level it up to 20 im the Daycare to get a decent idea of what they are and check on an online stat calculator.
It's Hidden Power Ghost with these IV's:

27-29 HP
31 Atk
22-24 Def
31 Sp.Atk
22-24 Sp.def
27-29 speed. XDD. Decent, right?
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It's Hidden Power Ghost with these IV's:

27-29 HP
31 Atk
22-24 Def
31 Sp.Atk
22-24 Sp.def
27-29 speed. XDD. Decent, right?
WOW. they are more than decent, well its hidden power isnt half bad either

Anti-Dusknoir and Gengar maybe ??

EDIT:BAD Idea Watch out for Sludge Bomb, Hidden power Ice from Gengar and Ice and Fire Punch from Dusknoir XD
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WOW. they are more than decent, well its hidden power isnt half bad either

Anti-Dusknoir and Gengar maybe ??
I could try a HP Ghost. Just put it in place of Crunch, correct? The parents must have had godly iv's. It could try a Subseeding set with the HP.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Naive Natute
- Substitute
- Thunderpucnh/Energy Ball
- Leech Seed
- HP Ghost. There are a lot of options when you have those kinds of IV's. I mean. Just wow. Edit: Apparently it's Hp Psychic. Thanks, Serebii. -_-
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I could try a HP Ghost. Just put it in place of Crunch, correct? The parents must have had godly iv's. It could try a Subseeding set with the HP.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Naive Natute
- Substitute
- Thunderpucnh/Energy Ball
- Leech Seed
- HP Ghost. There are a lot of options when you have those kinds of IV's. I mean. Just wow.
If your gonna counter ghosts Just Watch out for Sludge Bomb, Hidden power Ice from Gengar and Ice and Fire Punch from Dusknoir XD


Errm Thunderpunch is a great option, but did you hatch it in Emerald, because its only a move tutor move ?

Sub-Seed hmm, i like it.
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If your gonna counter ghosts Just Watch out for Sludge Bomb, Hidden power Ice from Gengar and Ice and Fire Punch from Dusknoir XD


Errm Thunderpunch is a great option, but did you hatch it in Emerald, because its only a move tutor move ?

Sub-Seed hmm.
Oops. No, I didn't hatch it in Emerald. Apparently it's HP Psychic. Thanks, Serebii. -_- Energy Ball could be nice for STAB. HP Psychic still takes care of Ghosts, though. Ice and Fire are it's greatest fear, so yeah. But I could give it some speed to get the first hit.
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Oops. No, I didn't hatch it in Emerald. Apparently it's HP Psychic. Thanks, Serebii. -_- Energy Ball could be nice for STAB. HP Psychic still takes care of Ghosts, though. Ice and Fire are it's greatest fear, so yeah. But I could give it some speed to get the first hit.
It aso gets Leaf Blade, it has a High critical hit ratio, Hax-ness lol

Psychic does'nt have very good type coverage, Crunch has better, whilst still hitting Ghosts hard and has a chance to lower defense.

You can also Shove either Dragon Claw or Dragon Pulse on it, which also have fantastic coverage.

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252 SPEED / 58 HP / 100 DEF < Got the ev spread from smogon
- Energy Ball / Leaf Blade
- Crunch / Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse / x-scissors
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- Leech Seed ?

EDIT:Even X-Scissors is rather nice on this
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It aso gets Leaf Blade, it has a High critical hit ratio, Hax-ness lol

Psychic does'nt have very good type coverage, Crunch has better, whilst still hitting Ghosts hard and has a chance to lower defense.

You can also Shove either Dragon Claw or Dragon Pulse on it, which also have fantastic coverage.

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252 SPEED / 58 HP / 100 DEF < Got the ev spread from smogon
- Energy Ball / Leaf Blade
- Crunch / Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse / x-scissors
- Substitute
- Leech Seed ?

EDIT:Even X-Scissors is rather nice on this
Dragon Pulse hits everything except Steel hard as well as Dragon Claw. So i'm having trouble deciding on the two. X-Scissor does hit Grass Types, HP Ice would be nice right now.
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Dragon Pulse hits everything except Steel hard as well as Dragon Claw. So i'm having trouble deciding on the two. X-Scissor does hit Grass Types, HP Ice would be nice right now.
Hidden Power Fire is the standard , for Skarmory who walls you otherwise, its your call. It also depends on what the rest of you team lacks coverage against.
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Hidden Power Fire is the standard , for Skarmory who walls you otherwise, its your call. It also depends on what the rest of you team lacks coverage against.
HP Fire sounds nice. Back to breeding in awhile.
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HP Fire sounds nice. Back to breeding in awhile.
WOW for Hidden Power Fire ??!!

Good Luck on that...........
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WOW for Hidden Power Fire ??!!

Good Luck on that...........
HP Fire is the standard. I tested Hidden Power out on a Keckleon btw, earlier, it said it changed to the Psychic type. That's why I said it had HP Psychic.
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It's Hidden Power Ghost with these IV's:

27-29 HP
31 Atk
22-24 Def
31 Sp.Atk
22-24 Sp.def
27-29 speed. XDD. Decent, right?
It's awesome, but Naive without 31 Spd IVs = Getting owned, trust me. I re-bred my Weavile just because of it having 28 Spd IVs...
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I could try a HP Ghost. Just put it in place of Crunch, correct? The parents must have had godly iv's. It could try a Subseeding set with the HP.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
Naive Natute
- Substitute
- Thunderpucnh/Energy Ball
- Leech Seed
- HP Ghost. There are a lot of options when you have those kinds of IV's. I mean. Just wow. Edit: Apparently it's Hp Psychic. Thanks, Serebii. -_-
No SubSeed and Physical and Special, I mean, wtf... And an IV calc. is only trustable for HP at lvl 100. My Sceptile has HP Ice, and Serebii said Ghost (at lvl 97) but at lvl 100 it sad Ice...
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It aso gets Leaf Blade, it has a High critical hit ratio, Hax-ness lol

Psychic does'nt have very good type coverage, Crunch has better, whilst still hitting Ghosts hard and has a chance to lower defense.

You can also Shove either Dragon Claw or Dragon Pulse on it, which also have fantastic coverage.

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252 SPEED / 58 HP / 100 DEF < Got the ev spread from smogon
- Energy Ball / Leaf Blade
- Crunch / Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse / x-scissors
- Substitute
- Leech Seed ?

EDIT:Even X-Scissors is rather nice on this
No.


Really, for originality, especially on a NAÏVE Sceptile, use it as SkarmBliss counter with:

Sceptile @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Spd / 128 Atk / 120 Sp.Atk
-Sub
-Focus Punch
-HP Electric / HP Fire / Thunderpunch
-Energy Ball.

Surprises the heck out of those OOU SkarmBlissMilotic.
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It's awesome, but Naive without 31 Spd IVs = Getting owned, trust me. I re-bred my Weavile just because of it having 28 Spd IVs...

No SubSeed and Physical and Special, I mean, wtf... And an IV calc. is only trustable for HP at lvl 100. My Sceptile has HP Ice, and Serebii said Ghost (at lvl 97) but at lvl 100 it sad Ice...

No.


Really, for originality, especially on a NAÏVE Sceptile, use it as SkarmBliss counter with:

Sceptile @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Spd / 128 Atk / 120 Sp.Atk
-Sub
-Focus Punch
-HP Electric / HP Fire / Thunderpunch
-Energy Ball.

Surprises the heck out of those OOU SkarmBlissMilotic.
I'd use Thunderpunch in 4th Gen, because Physical would destroy Milotic. Whilst, she would absorb special Hp Electric now like Jello. Hp Fire, would do nothing. Have Electrivire on my team with T-Bolt, and it would OHKO Skarm.
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It's awesome, but Naive without 31 Spd IVs = Getting owned, trust me. I re-bred my Weavile just because of it having 28 Spd IVs...

No SubSeed and Physical and Special, I mean, wtf... And an IV calc. is only trustable for HP at lvl 100. My Sceptile has HP Ice, and Serebii said Ghost (at lvl 97) but at lvl 100 it sad Ice...

No.


Really, for originality, especially on a NAÏVE Sceptile, use it as SkarmBliss counter with:

Sceptile @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Spd / 128 Atk / 120 Sp.Atk
-Sub
-Focus Punch
-HP Electric / HP Fire / Thunderpunch
-Energy Ball.

Surprises the heck out of those OOU SkarmBlissMilotic.
LOL your not going to be Sub-Punching Blissey with Sceptiles HP and its piss poor substitutes.


Anything that wishes to be a Skarm Bliss counter with Sub-Punch NEEDS 404 Hp so it can make 101 Hp substitutes so Blissey cant break them with seismic toss
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LOL your not going to be Sub-Punching Blissey with Sceptiles HP and its piss poor substitutes.


Anything that wishes to be a Skarm Bliss counter with Sub-Punch NEEDS 404 Hp so it can make 101 Hp substitutes so Blissey cant break them with seismic toss
Understatement here. 404 HP is a must. Sceptile's HP is not near close to that. XD.
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