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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:54 AM).
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[email protected]**Unagi
Bold
252 def/128 Sp atk/128 HP
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover

[email protected]**Kenshin
Adamant
252 Atk/16 Def/240 HP
Psycho Cut
Close combat
Night slash
Thunder wave

Thunder wave is to outspeed stuff @>@

[email protected]**Batman
Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Aerial ace/Ice fang
Stealth rock

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Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
Fire blast
DD
EQ

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Timid
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
T-bolt
Ice beam
Dark pulse

My Pory has flawless def IVs so he should survive a non-CBd physical attack and then massacre. I NEED A WEAVILE COUNTER T_T
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Old October 21st, 2007 (8:19 AM). Edited October 21st, 2007 by Dark Azelf.
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[email protected]**Unagi
Bold
148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover

[email protected]**Kenshin
Adamant
236hp/252atk/20spd
Psycho Cut
Close combat
Night slash
Thunder wave / Hypnosis / Will - o -Wisp / Stone Edge

WOW your like the only person here to use this the way it was intended and without Choice Scarf lol because this is bulky enough not to need the damn scarf as it doesnt need to outspeed anything important that is should be staying in against!! XD

Anyways it has alot of good status moves, so i added them to give you a bit more of an option, aswell as stone Edge for a bit of coverage. the above ev spread gives it 201 speed, whilst being bulky


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Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Aerial ace/Ice fang
Stealth rock

Yep standard

[email protected] Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
Fire blast
DD
EQ

Good Again

[email protected]Choice Specs / Life Orb / Wise Glasses
Timid
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
T-bolt / Nasty Plot
Ice beam / Substitute
Dark pulse


Timid is fast enough to outspeed enough that modest isnt so Salac Berry isnt really needed, you can consider Nasty Plot and Substitute if your good at predicting switches, so set up a sub on the switch and to avoid status and to Nasty Plot behind the sub and pwn.
Changes are in bold,

Weavile counters 101 = Skarmory, Gyarados, Forretress , Bronzong (i remembered it sims lol) etc.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (8:21 AM).
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Gyarados could work, but then I don't have a spinner/phazer. D: If I use Forry, I'd have a lack of physical sweepers. Gwaar.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (8:24 AM).
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Gyarados could work, but then I don't have a spinner/phazer. D: If I use Forry, I'd have a lack of physical sweepers. Gwaar.
Well you could use Forretress > Gliscor. Or Even Swampert *cough* Ice Beam, Earthquake, Stealth Rock and Roar =p
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Old October 21st, 2007 (8:40 AM).
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I wouldn't use Swampert as a phazer.. it lacks a reliable healing move. I recommend Mixpert with Stealth Rock, Surf, Ice Beam, and Earthquake.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (9:40 AM).
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Gliscor was there to prevent Heracross rape o.o Mixpert could work..I'm using Cursepert on my current team ._.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (6:59 PM).
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[email protected]**Unagi
Bold
252 def/128 Sp atk/128 HP
Surf
Ice beam
HypnosisUNless you're looking to use recover often or facing speed hacks, I don't think this is needed... Again, not a bad choice, just not my choice... You decide if you want to keep it...
Recover


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Adamant
252 Atk/16 Def/240 HP
Psycho Cut
Close combat
Night slash
Thunder wave

Thunder wave is to outspeed stuff @>@

Although it's a good philosophy, WHERE is the sword dance here... Cut one of the attacks for sword dance... Thunder Wave or something similar should be here, I agree.

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Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Aerial ace/Ice fang
Stealth rock

Good... Nothing to be said here.

[email protected] Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
Fire blast
DD
EQ

Again, Nice job...

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Timid
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Tri attack
T-bolt Nasty Plot... You'll see why later.
Ice beamDouble Team... If you can't take a hit, why get hit in the first place....
Dark pulse

My Pory has flawless def IVs so he should survive a non-CBd physical attack and then massacre. I NEED A WEAVILE COUNTER T_T
I'm just going to comment on the moves here All moves will be in Red Bold...

Nice set of attacks, with minor changes, you will have the Attacks at least, set. Everyone else will help with the items.... Happy Hunting

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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:11 PM).
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On Gallade: Sword Dance and Thunder Wave? That seems a bit overkill.

On Porygon-Z: Double Team is illegal.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:17 PM).
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Did you just say Milotic SHOULDN'T have recover? Thats not a good thing to say. Double Team is outlawed. Swords Dance isn't needed...now I'm repeating airconditioning.

I KNOW you did not just lose Thunderbolt & Ice Beam on Porygon Z. That is the whole reason it is used. That set you gave is walled by many, many pokes. Spiritomb is immune to it. If he should lose anything for Nasty Plot, its Dark Pulse.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:18 PM). Edited October 21st, 2007 by Raziel_X007223.
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On Gallade: Sword Dance and Thunder Wave? That seems a bit overkill.

On Porygon-Z: Double Team is illegal.
Porygon- Ok... Note taken....

Gallade- I don't think so.... Facing off against a tank, you might need the boost...

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Did you just say Milotic SHOULDN'T have recover? Thats not a good thing to say. Double Team is outlawed. Swords Dance isn't needed...now I'm repeating airconditioning.
Read again, Hypnosis is the one I'm talking about....

Mentioned on Double Team....: Point Taken thanks...

As for Sword Dance, I see a tank just eating attacks and creaming him for it... Better safe than sorry... but again, I only put ideas, whether or not he/she uses them is to them.

Though it would be nice to see my ideas in motion, not everyone will like it. You just say to yourself "I tried.. Maybe a better moveset is out there, but at least I tried to help." That's all I'm going for.

I think not mentioning Items or Natures is good enough for me. Moves is what I do. So, Double Team is no good, that's cool and understandable. But teh sword dance is a good move in case tankers come.

Reapeating myself for hypnosis (NOT recover)- Case by case move, it may not work, it may work. I wouldn't use it for Milo.... That's all

On Porygon Z- Put back the Ice Beam... I have a hunch it might work with the plot....
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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:24 PM).
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That is a standard Gallade set. Every pokemon is haltered by something, and Gallade is no tank-killer.
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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:29 PM).
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That is a standard Gallade set. Every pokemon is haltered by something, and Gallade is no tank-killer.
True point. True point indeed....

Looking at all the great Gallade, not a single one can take a hit... Not to mention that the moveset is solely reliant on how hard they hit and the critical ratio... But still, I just can't help seeing a Gallade fall to a tank when push goes to shove.... But again, your correct on that case...

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Old October 21st, 2007 (7:41 PM).
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Gallade can take many hits, its special defense max is GREAT! Plus not too bad HP either, It can take Gengars Shadow ball for gods sake! Gallade isn;t a tank, but he can takes hits VERY VERY well. The No Recover and Double Team ticked me off enough. Gallades moveset is perfect by being diverse and covering every type, mine ONLY have attacking moves and is choice scarfed, its max speed when scarfed, 405, 3 best non-uber maximum. It can almosy outspeed and super-effective hit every Pokemon in the game. PWNT!
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Gallade can take many hits, its special defense max is GREAT! Plus not too bad HP either, It can take Gengars Shadow ball for gods sake! Gallade isn;t a tank, but he can takes hits VERY VERY well. The No Recover and Double Team ticked me off enough. Gallades moveset is perfect by being diverse and covering every type, mine ONLY have attacking moves and is choice scarfed, its max speed when scarfed, 405, 3 best non-uber maximum. It can almosy outspeed and super-effective hit every Pokemon in the game. PWNT!
I say AGAIN!!!! No Hypnosis, (NOT RECOVER)

.... Recover STAYS!!!!

Hypnosis, out!!!
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Recover,? Whoops, I meant to say Hypnosis. Hypnosis stays, I'm surprized you'd take it out. You obviously don't know much on Milotic, to say "lose Hypnosis".


First off, Gallade has no time to beef itself up. It can handle itself just well against tanks. Hence why that standard set is standard.


As I said, you need to read more on compettitive battling BEFORE you give advice. Double Team, as you already know, is illegal. If the threadmaker uses that in a tournament (along with the sub-par Porygon Z set) he would get banned. I doubt he'd like to hear "I tried". At least without proper experience.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (7:54 PM).
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In truth, you're coming off liek you're making this up as you go and aren't tuned into basic strategies. Like, do you know what Skarmbliss is, and a SRer, RPer, Phazer... Things everyone who should be giving advice out should know. Hypnosis is crucial on Milotic unless you;re going Resstalk to activate Mavel Scale.
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