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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:16 PM).
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Would it work? If you could get a sub on Absol, it gives you a free Taunt. You could Sucker Punch on the way, but will it work like I expect it to?
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:19 PM).
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sounds genius, dude, I love spamming sucker punch. It's such a wonderful move. (idea stolen)

suckerpunch + taunt is now property of Romance Hero, All rights recently reserved, copyrighted. ^^ kidding. great thought though.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:21 PM).
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If only it had more PP >_>;
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:22 PM).
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An enemy could switch out into a wall and attempt to stall Sucker Punch out of PP, but outside of that, I don't see anything particularly wrong with this idea.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:23 PM).
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It's just out of curiousity, after I really looked at how Sucker Punch needs to be attacked. I went with this :

Absol@Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait : Super Luck (H4X0R)
Nature : Adamant
Moves :
- Sucker Punch
- Taunt
- Substitute
- Swords Dance/X-Scissor (for Dark types that block Sucker Punch. As for Steel... hm)
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:24 PM).
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Spiritomb is good at doing it aswell. Just be careful, with Absols not really good defenses, you may pay for it. However in theory yes it would work.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:26 PM).
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Spiritomb is good at doing it aswell. Just be careful, with Absols not really good defenses, you may pay for it. However in theory yes it would work.
I agree, You'd expect absol to take a hard hit, but with spiritomb, and great def/sp def stats, (mine has pretty good atk EVs) it's better IMO.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:29 PM).
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Yea, use the above-average 92 Atk :D

Spiritomb would do exeptionally well, as for Absol taking hits, that's why there would be the Substitute
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (4:31 PM).
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what's base speed for absol? mine's pretty slow. but I just might use this for my spiritomb, is that okay with you? xD
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Its fine, it was to basically switch into something with 60 SPD who would definitely switch out because Absol has 70 SPD. Otherwise, you have to know they will switch out the slower one either because it's a weak Sp. Wall. (Blissey, you fat)
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (6:49 PM).
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XD nah, that wouldn't work for absol -- poor thing.

just give it choice scarf/choice band like everyone else!
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I just tried it. worked great, opponent couldnt do a thing, but I had to make sure to conserve my sucker punches, so I added another atk or gave WOW
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I've tried, and Spiritomb doesn't pull off Taunt that well - he's too damn slow. He'll either be Taunted himself, be outrun to a status move, or Taunt something faster than him, as it has a chance to fire off a Swords Dance. The only way Taunt comes in handy is against a Blissey, with Toxic, Sucker Punch and Pain Split. Of course, that takes some prediction to work right, as you'll likely be Thunder Waved first.

Either way, Taunt is a move that really becomes situational.
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Old October 22nd, 2007 (7:03 PM).
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Most people wouldnt expect this yet (exluding PKMN pseudo-gods like you) but what my oppenent tried to do was continue the attacks, didnt even switch out. substitute helped me greatly though.
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whoa nice one dude! grab a PP max and ur all set
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Taunt + Sucker Punch + Substitute = Random Steel Type / Dark Type / Fighting Type.

It's a waste of time, and a waste of move slots. I rest my case.
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Thats why i switched him in when he did best.
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Taunt + Sucker Punch + Substitute = Random Steel Type / Dark Type / Fighting Type.

It's a waste of time, and a waste of move slots. I rest my case.
well with sucker punch, i agree, but a taunt + sub combo could really give you a foot forward in a battle.

for instance, i have a weavile with Night Slash/Focus Punch/Substitute/Taunt. no matter what you do, weavile is gonna get walled almost all the time, so taunt + sub really comes in handy. i was able to dominate a skarmory, scarf lucario, and claydol all on the same team.
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