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Old October 23rd, 2007 (4:31 PM).
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Swampert Leftovers
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Ev in attck and def

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Iron tail
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (4:41 PM).
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What do I think? I think its pretty bad.

Iron Tail has horrible coverage and hardly ever hits the oppoent. NEVER use.

You didn't post your EVs correctly. There has to be HP EVs in there.

Brave shouldn't be used since even the pokemon with the lower speed stats will still be able to outrun some pokemon.

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Trait: Torrent
Nature: Adamant / Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Attack / 80 Defense
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge / Icebeam
- Curse / Rest
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (4:44 PM).
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Swampert doesn't need Waterfall, its got Earthquake

Stone Edge/Ice Beam/Ice Punch/Avalanche with Earthquake is really enough. Curse and/or Rest and/or Stealth Rock
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (4:55 PM).
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waterfall is stab+nature+power+torrent when health is below1/3=instant death on every pokemon
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (4:59 PM).
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No, Torrent rarely activates anyway due to rest. Nature is a slight reasoning, Swampert's Impish. Earthquake gets Stab and MORE power, destroying Nature.
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (5:42 PM).
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yea, I'd keep waterfall since it's stab and has a decent amount of supereffective and neutral coverage.

Curse would be nice if you can set it up, just keep in mind that skarms can whirlwind you out, and better yet, be able to take a hit if you're 1x cursed. Hazers, too.

I think penguin pal has a good idea going:

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Trait: Torrent
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EVs: 252 HP / 172 Attack / 80 Defense
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge / Icebeam
- Curse / Rest

you'll definitely want the stab move, and then another move to cover what's resistant to water... don't do the speed down nature since you have a chance of being faster than pokes like snorlax, which is nice if both of you are setting up curse.

you don't want to depend too much on torrent... if it activates after you've put a couple curses down, a special move can still destroy you, and can be guaranteed first hit since you've lost out on speed.
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (5:45 PM).
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ehhem Earthquake is the Stab move

Stone Edge and Ice Beam/Ice Punch/Avalanche already makes it viable enough for attacking moves. It needs space for Curse/Rest/StealthRock/Roar
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (5:47 PM).
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ehhem Earthquake is the Stab move

Stone Edge and Ice Beam/Ice Punch/Avalanche already makes it viable enough for attacking moves. It needs space for Curse/Rest/StealthRock/Roar
Not to mention a stronger STAB than Waterfall.
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yea... I can see the EQ being nice and beefed up cuz of stab and it makes a good move for curse... and rest with those beefed up defenses... why you recommend roar and SR on him?
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (5:48 PM).
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It works, I came across a fellow in Smogon using a Roar set, it obliterated me after trying to attempt and shoot an Energy Ball after switching.
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Old October 23rd, 2007 (5:49 PM).
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hmmm... I totally see what you're saying.. it does have that element of surprise to it.
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Old October 24th, 2007 (4:48 AM).
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I use the following set. My swampert is shiny so i couldn't breed for egg moves or nature, but i think its ok
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200HP 152 Att 152 Def
EQ- Good stab and type coverage
Waterfall- Another stab, covers options EQ does
Avalanche- More type coverage
Protect- Scouts for grass moves
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Old October 24th, 2007 (4:53 AM).
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Hmm, a Brave Cursepert is a killer on a Trick Room team, I know that luckyCHARMS uses a cursepert and it was a beast.
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Old October 24th, 2007 (7:06 PM).
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Swampert doesn't need Waterfall, its got Earthquake

Stone Edge/Ice Beam/Ice Punch/Avalanche with Earthquake is really enough. Curse and/or Rest and/or Stealth Rock
u dont need 3 ice moves, name
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Old October 27th, 2007 (4:41 PM).
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so is my swampert good or not?
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Old October 27th, 2007 (4:45 PM).
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Not really. Are you still using that set that you posted?
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Old October 27th, 2007 (4:49 PM).
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u dont need 3 ice moves, name
He's saying Stone Edge and ONE of the said Ice moves.


Swampert really does need Avalanche with Curse.
 

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