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Old October 24th, 2007 (9:10 PM).
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Ok.. so i am currently trying to make a team i can use online that is nice and balanced and all that happy stuff... but i don't really get what that means... i can understand how to make like Sweepers and Hunters and all that... but how do you put together a functioning team?
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Well heres what I do and the 1) and all the other numbers with ) behind them must be in order in your party lke 1)=The first slot in party kk got that then here we go.

1)The Decoy:The decoy Pokemon is used for letting your opponent test out there moves Id suggest you amike the decoys level high online because sometimes people will beat uyp your decoy also it can be used for sending out whiole healing your Pokemon.I would suggest using one of eevee's evo's untill you acn find a good decoy.

2)Warrior 1:Warrior one is just a basic Pokemon taht lowers the opponent's health if online I'd suggest using a Starvia, aiming this to level 75 and above.

3)Warrior 2:Warrior two is the same as warrior one only aim this level to level 76 to the above. Id suggest you use any Pokemon for this one because it dosen't matter about your second Pokemon only I'd suggest Lucario.

4)EV Pokenmon:Id suggest just getting any pokemon and raising all there ev's to a certain limit It dosen't matter how you do this Pokemon seeing its only for EV's aim this to about level 70.

5)High Resictence:This is just a good Pokemon to use that has a certain recistence like Empoilon anim this level to 68 or above recommended is 74.

6)The Tanker:My favourite part the tanker! The tanker is the main big gun in the whole thing He/She or It(Reffering to Pokemon like Ditto and Legendaries and Pokemon taht don't look like pokemon) is the main pokemon In this before you level up other piokemon level up your suitable tanker I'd suggest it is a legendarie or Torterra well I don't know what you want this to be but it must be good I'd refer you level up your tanker to 100 (For really expeirianced tariners) at the least 80.

Well I hope this works for you if this isn't the guide that is suitable I will delet this post if you don't want to follow this it is up to you this is for beginners and the suitable way of getting too this have fun in team makiuing!
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Ok, this is just my suggestion. Mind you, I enjoy using an All Eevolution team on-line.

1. Decoy - Required to have a High Def, as well as healing-type moves, and possibly attacks that cause status changes to opponent

Leafeon level 70-100
Grass Whistle
Sunny Day
Synthesis
Giga Drain

2. Warrior - High Attacker, nothing more. Do damage as fast as possible.

Flareon level 74-100
Fire Fang
Bite
Fire Blast
Iron Tail/Sunny Day

3. Warrior - Same as stated above. But this time, it will be Special damage.

Glaceon level 74-100
Blizzard
Mirror Coat
Hail
Hidden Power/ Ice Beam

4. EV Trained - You want someone who has naturally high stats, like high HP or S.ATK. That way, you get more from EV training. At least, that's my take.

Espeon level 74-100( EV traing for S.ATK and Speed)
Future Sight
Psychic
Sunny Day
Morning Sun

5. Resistance - This is where the Eevolutions have a slight problem. They each have their own weaknesses, and only one has the most Resistance, but s/he is already in use, Flareon.

Vaporeon level 75-100
Aqua Ring
Brine/Haze/Acid Armor
Rain Dance
Hydro Pump

6. Tanker - The big guy. The head Honcho. The one no one messes with. The one who will beat you with a lead pipe and tell you to like it.

Jolteon level 80-100(Head Honcho must be highest)
Hidden Power
Rain Dance
Protect
Thunder

Now, let me explain Jolteon's odd move list. Rain Dance lets Thunder always hit. Protect can help save your hide quite a bit, but you shouldn't need to use it unless you fight someone faster. Hidden Power should be something decent, like Ice or Ghost.

Sorry if this is not what was asked. I couldn't quite understand what was asked.
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Ok, this is just my suggestion. Mind you, I enjoy using an All Eevolution team on-line.

1. Decoy - Required to have a High Def, as well as healing-type moves, and possibly attacks that cause status changes to opponent

Leafeon level 70-100
Grass Whistle
Sunny Day
Synthesis
Giga Drain

FYI... on the decoy, I like using the move PROTECT to see what hard hitting moves they have, and the stall never hurts... its just a matter of discussing whether or not you like using Protect

2. Warrior - High Attacker, nothing more. Do damage as fast as possible.

Flareon level 74-100
Fire Fang
Bite
Fire Blast
Iron Tail/Sunny Day

(physical sweepers, you need sweepers as it is. At least Fire can take down some pretty serious tanks such as Forretress and Skarmory)

3. Warrior - Same as stated above. But this time, it will be Special damage.

Glaceon level 74-100
Blizzard
Mirror Coat
Hail
Hidden Power/ Ice Beam

(if you were to do all physical sweepers, remember that a physical wall will ruin that concept... and it's always nice to have a backup plan... I'm not too partial to Glaceon.. but a stabbed IceBeam is a serious force)

4. EV Trained - You want someone who has naturally high stats, like high HP or S.ATK. That way, you get more from EV training. At least, that's my take.

Espeon level 74-100( EV traing for S.ATK and Speed)
Future Sight
Psychic
Sunny Day
Morning Sun

(enjoy the EV training, it pays back 10fold over time)

5. Resistance - This is where the Eevolutions have a slight problem. They each have their own weaknesses, and only one has the most Resistance, but s/he is already in use, Flareon.

Vaporeon level 75-100
Aqua Ring
Brine/Haze/Acid Armor
Rain Dance
Hydro Pump

(Vaporeon is only weak against grass and electric... another good Tank is umbreon... because of his immunity to psychic and overall great defenses)


6. Tanker - The big guy. The head Honcho. The one no one messes with. The one who will beat you with a lead pipe and tell you to like it.

Jolteon level 80-100(Head Honcho must be highest)
Hidden Power
Rain Dance
Protect
Thunder

(you can always use Baton Pass on a Jolteon... if you learn to switch in on an electric attack aimed at Vaporeon.. BAM.... and you can always bass on agillity)

Now, let me explain Jolteon's odd move list. Rain Dance lets Thunder always hit. Protect can help save your hide quite a bit, but you shouldn't need to use it unless you fight someone faster. Hidden Power should be something decent, like Ice or Ghost.

Sorry if this is not what was asked. I couldn't quite understand what was asked.
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whoa. i never thought of using an all-eevee team. that is a great idea!
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Let me start.

1) LEVELS DO NOT MATTER. Wi-Fi sets every level to 100, so it's completely irrelevent.
2) Why are people suggesting such horrible Pokemon? Seriously, Staravia? No. And Beloved, that is an absolutely terrible team. I'm not kidding.
3) Gotron, what do you mean by 'EV Pokemon'? ALL of your Pokemon should be EV trained.

Now, what you need to make a balanced team is, simply put, balance. You need physical and special sweepers or tanks, a wall or two, and you need to cover up as many weaknesses as possible (to either specific types like Electric, or specific Pokemon such as Electivire). Later posters will probably elaborate on this, I just felt the need to speak out against that Eevee team.
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Well heres what I do and the 1) and all the other numbers with ) behind them must be in order in your party lke 1)=The first slot in party kk got that then here we go.

1)The Decoy:The decoy Pokemon is used for letting your opponent test out there moves Id suggest you amike the decoys level high online because sometimes people will beat uyp your decoy also it can be used for sending out whiole healing your Pokemon.I would suggest using one of eevee's evo's untill you acn find a good decoy.

2)Warrior 1:Warrior one is just a basic Pokemon taht lowers the opponent's health if online I'd suggest using a Starvia, aiming this to level 75 and above.

3)Warrior 2:Warrior two is the same as warrior one only aim this level to level 76 to the above. Id suggest you use any Pokemon for this one because it dosen't matter about your second Pokemon only I'd suggest Lucario.

4)EV Pokenmon:Id suggest just getting any pokemon and raising all there ev's to a certain limit It dosen't matter how you do this Pokemon seeing its only for EV's aim this to about level 70.

5)High Resictence:This is just a good Pokemon to use that has a certain recistence like Empoilon anim this level to 68 or above recommended is 74.

6)The Tanker:My favourite part the tanker! The tanker is the main big gun in the whole thing He/She or It(Reffering to Pokemon like Ditto and Legendaries and Pokemon taht don't look like pokemon) is the main pokemon In this before you level up other piokemon level up your suitable tanker I'd suggest it is a legendarie or Torterra well I don't know what you want this to be but it must be good I'd refer you level up your tanker to 100 (For really expeirianced tariners) at the least 80.

Well I hope this works for you if this isn't the guide that is suitable I will delete this post if you don't want to follow this it is up to you this is for beginners and the suitable way of getting too this have fun in team makiuing!
What the HELL is this? As airconditioner said, Wifi sets everyone to level 100. The max is 100, so saying "Get this to lvl 76, this to lvl 80" makes no sense.


Those are not good terms. Warrior? Warrior 2? What is this?!

Thread maker (& guy I quoted) go on gamespot.com, type in Pokemon Diamond, and go on hints cheats. There is a GREAT compettitive battling guide out there made by "The Parat Lover", complete with terms, and the basics for team building.

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Let me start.

1) LEVELS DO NOT MATTER. Wi-Fi sets every level to 100, so it's completely irrelevent.
2) Why are people suggesting such horrible Pokemon? Seriously, Staravia? No. And Beloved, that is an absolutely terrible team. I'm not kidding.
3) Gotron, what do you mean by 'EV Pokemon'? ALL of your Pokemon should be EV trained.

Now, what you need to make a balanced team is, simply put, balance. You need physical and special sweepers or tanks, a wall or two, and you need to cover up as many weaknesses as possible (to either specific types like Electric, or specific Pokemon such as Electivire). Later posters will probably elaborate on this, I just felt the need to speak out against that Eevee team.
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Yeah, my mind is going to blow up on you. WARRIOR 1 and 2! PLEASE LEARN BASIC TERMS BEFORE COMIGN BACK! One, decoy is unneeded, "warriors" and called sweeper, physical or special, tanks are bulky Pokemon, walls receive damage, if you want a well built team, hen this is probably the best

Physical Sweeper
Special Sweeper
Physical Wall
Special Wall
Physcial/Special Tank
Rapid Spinner Stealth Rocker

If you want a well balanced team witrh all of those, here are some Pokemon you could use for each!

Physical Sweepers

Salamence-Life Orb
Adamant/Jolly-Intimidate
EVs 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Dragion Dance
Aerial Ace/Stone Edge

Metagross-Life Orb
Adamant-Clear Body
EVs I always forget these...
Earthquake
Explosion
Agility
Meteor Mash

Gallade-Choice Scarf
Adamant/Jolly-Steadfast
Adamant EVs are 252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP, but Jolly EVs are 252 Attack, 172 Speed, 40 HP, 40 Special Defense
Leaf Blade/Psycho Cut
Stone Edge
Night Slash
Close Combat

Special Sweepers

Gengar-Focus Sash
Timid-Levitate
EVs 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Energy Ball/Hidden Power Ice

Im not very good with speicla sweeper, but that one is good

Physical Walls

Steelix-Leftovers
Relaxed-Rock Head
EVs 252 defense, 252 HP, 4 Attack (Not sure on EVs)
Earthquake
Gyro Ball
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock/Explosion

Forretress-LEftovers
Relaxed-252 Defense, 252 HP, 4 Attack
Gyro Ball
Explosion
Spikes
Rapid Spin

That one takes care of rapid spinner too, so you could put someone else in there.

Special Walls

Blissey-Leftovers
Bold-Natural Cure
252 defense, 172 HP, the rest special defense (Not sure, but I think this is right)
Ice Beam
Seismis Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Best special wall there is.

Physical Tank

Rhyperior-Not sure on its set

Swampert-Leftovers
Not sure on nature or EVs
Curse
Earthquake
Avalanche
Waterfall

Special Tanks

Togekiss-Leftovers
Not sure on Nature or EVs, but Serene Grace
Thunder Wave
Roost
Air Slash
Aura Sphere

Rapid Spinner, Forretress works as said above or Starmie can function as well as Torkoal

There are MANY MANY more usable Pokemon, I just took some random examples of good ones. There are many more to choose from
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ok thanks ^^ i wasn't really sure since i have only been working on the tower people and the tower quality thing.. i kind'a forgot how to make a normal not so cheating team ^^
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ok thanks ^^ i wasn't really sure since i have only been working on the tower people and the tower quality thing.. i kind'a forgot how to make a normal not so cheating team ^^
thank you very much ^^
You might be refering to me. I didn't say cheat, but all game faqs, walkthroughs, & guides are located on Hints/Cheats section.

Midnight Wing mentioned the terms, but I wish he explained it in better detail...(hint-hint, Midnight...)
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LOL
no i wasn't refering to anyone lol, i was talking about tower quality.....
sorry if it came across like that >< i guess i can't explain very well....
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No prob. I thought you might, but not in a malicious way. I read my post, it had hints/cheats, so I didn't want you confused.
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yes thank you ^^
i well have to see it.. and yea.. i kind'a do get confused rather easily...

ok so i want to make sure i have this thing right.... so this is what i am thinking of for a team...
so like Pryogon Z, Weavile, Steelix, Blissy, Starmie, and Umbreon. Is this kind'a the right idea or did i totally miss it?
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2 special sweepers, but Starmie functions as a rapid spinner so okies, Weavile, just plain awesome, Steelix, just plain awesome, Umbreon, thats two special walls, go for either that or blissey. That is the sort of idea, and sorry if I wasn;t very clear, Sweeper deal out damage, they;re the big guns, the outfront attackers, in physical and special, whihc you need both of for a team. Walls are the damage receivers, they take hits and defend your team, crucial to any play. A lot of newbs only have sweepers and no walls. Tanks are damage dealers and receivers, they are well, like tanks, most helpfull indeed. And Rapid Spinners and Stealth Rockers are well, Rapid SIn and Stelath rock carrying Pokemon, a rapid spinner is a extremely important part of any team.

For your team, You have Steelix, physical wall, Weavile, Physical Sweeper, Blissey/Umbreon Special Wall, Starmie, Rapid Spinner/Special Sweeper, Porygon-Z, special sweeper. You should get rid of one special wall for a stealth rocker, like change Umbreon in for like Rhyperior or something.
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Ah, that's a fairly balanced team. As Midnight said, take out either Blissey or Umbreon, as they both serve the same purpose (Special Walling). On the note about Stealth Rock, the standard Steelix has Stealth Rock, so you may want to stick in a sweeper or tank for the empty spot. A physical one would work best. Perhaps Gallade or Medicham?
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Gallade kicks Medichams funky hip-butt. And duh im stoopid, knew that. Im not sure abotu another sweeper, that would make 4, little bit to many, tank would fit nicely, or like a subseeder.
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Gallade kicks Medichams funky hip-butt. And duh im stoopid, knew that. Im not sure abotu another sweeper, that would make 4, little bit to many, tank would fit nicely, or like a subseeder.
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I dont think he needs TWO rapid-spinners. And Rhyperior is the king of tanks, BTW. Tangrowth makes a great Pokemo for filling a sopt, he drainsd HP and refules himself while pounding in opponents faces.
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Basic Team Format:

Physical Sweeper x 1-2
These are the guys that are fast and can attack Physically.

I use Salamence:
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Uhh......I'll get back to you on the fourth move.

Special Sweeper (1 if you have 2 Physical Sweepers and 2 if you have 1)
These are the same as above, only they use Special Attacks instead of Physical ones.

I use two. One is:

Azelf
Nasty Plot
Energy Ball
Flamethrower
Extrasensory

Physical Wall x 1
A Physical Wall has good Defense, period.

I use:

Torkoal
Gyro Ball
Curse
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin

Special Wall
Same as above, but with good Special Defense instead.

I use:

Blissey
Ice Beam
Calm Mind
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Tank x 1
This is the guy that has good HP, Attack, and Defense. Some Sp. Defense may be helpful as well, but it usually isn't used. Tanks are mainly used for Attacking, although they are usually slow.

I use:

Tyranitar
Crunch
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Finally, a last bit of advice: Every team should have a Rapid Spinner, Stealth Rock/Spike-er, and, preferably, an Aromatherapist or Heal Beller. Also, every Pokemon should have at least one direct Attacking move. Hope this helped.

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I dont think he needs TWO rapid-spinners. And Rhyperior is the king of tanks, BTW. Tangrowth makes a great Pokemo for filling a sopt, he drainsd HP and refules himself while pounding in opponents faces.
:O you killed the Rainbow Snorlax! And yes, Rhyperior is th ideal tank, but I use Tyranitar for its Special Defense and ability to Dragon Dance.
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I don't the idea of a DDmence with life orb. It just doesn't appeal to me.

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And sweeper ratios on your advice are a little flawed there. And he has his team ready, we just need a a tank. Rhyperior for abiliy and great stats, Tangrowth for lifew-sapping, Dpnphan for well, MORe rapid spinning.
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so a tank? like umm, i don't how to explain it... but umm, something thing that takes damage while annoying or something that takes damage and give some back? they are seperate things in japan so i kind'a confused on which would be the better.
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I'm sure theres a better guide to make a team then the first answer to this thread
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Well heres what I do and the 1) and all the other numbers with ) behind them must be in order in your party lke 1)=The first slot in party kk got that then here we go.

1)The Decoy:The decoy Pokemon is used for letting your opponent test out there moves Id suggest you amike the decoys level high online because sometimes people will beat uyp your decoy also it can be used for sending out whiole healing your Pokemon.I would suggest using one of eevee's evo's untill you acn find a good decoy.

2)Warrior 1:Warrior one is just a basic Pokemon taht lowers the opponent's health if online I'd suggest using a Starvia, aiming this to level 75 and above.

3)Warrior 2:Warrior two is the same as warrior one only aim this level to level 76 to the above. Id suggest you use any Pokemon for this one because it dosen't matter about your second Pokemon only I'd suggest Lucario.

4)EV Pokenmon:Id suggest just getting any pokemon and raising all there ev's to a certain limit It dosen't matter how you do this Pokemon seeing its only for EV's aim this to about level 70.

5)High Resictence:This is just a good Pokemon to use that has a certain recistence like Empoilon anim this level to 68 or above recommended is 74.

6)The Tanker:My favourite part the tanker! The tanker is the main big gun in the whole thing He/She or It(Reffering to Pokemon like Ditto and Legendaries and Pokemon taht don't look like pokemon) is the main pokemon In this before you level up other piokemon level up your suitable tanker I'd suggest it is a legendarie or Torterra well I don't know what you want this to be but it must be good I'd refer you level up your tanker to 100 (For really expeirianced tariners) at the least 80.

Well I hope this works for you if this isn't the guide that is suitable I will delet this post if you don't want to follow this it is up to you this is for beginners and the suitable way of getting too this have fun in team makiuing!
The Decoy = Staller
Warrior = Sweeper
You should raise EVs for EVERY Pokemon.
High Resistence = Tank?
Tanker makes no sense at all. You mentioned Ditto, which is the most failish Pokemon ever.
Staravia is failsome.


And on the opposite end of the spectrum, we have Mr. Perfect. Let's look at his post:
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Let me start.

1) LEVELS DO NOT MATTER. Wi-Fi sets every level to 100, so it's completely irrelevent.
2) Why are people suggesting such horrible Pokemon? Seriously, Staravia? No. And Beloved, that is an absolutely terrible team. I'm not kidding.
3) Gotron, what do you mean by 'EV Pokemon'? ALL of your Pokemon should be EV trained.

Now, what you need to make a balanced team is, simply put, balance. You need physical and special sweepers or tanks, a wall or two, and you need to cover up as many weaknesses as possible (to either specific types like Electric, or specific Pokemon such as Electivire). Later posters will probably elaborate on this, I just felt the need to speak out against that Eevee team.
Uhm... kay. Few people will feel the urge to elaborate on that, considering it's scattered all over the web. Really, the only problem with the Eevee team is an occasional bad choice of moves. It's not "absolutely terrible," the only things releasing that vibe are the original reply and your own post.
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But the team still sucks. Levels yes, DO NOT MATTER, and EVs are the MOST IMPORTANT part of ALL GAMES. And the lingo we use here is standard. You need to revise your team with the actual terms here for help, like sweeper and tank.
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