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Old October 27th, 2007 (5:21 AM).
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Hi all, I was wondering if dusknoir would be suitable as a wall? its defences are huge, but its HP is abysmal. would maxing out its defences make it a worthwhile wall? Or if you have other suggestions please leave them :)
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Old October 27th, 2007 (5:44 AM).
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Trait: Pressure
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 Special Defense
- Will-o-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadowsneak / Shadowpunch / Icepunch / Thunderpunch
- Shadowsneak / Shadowpunch / Icepunch / Thunderpunch

I like this Dusknoir since it takes advantage of its low HP with Pain Split. Most pokemon do have higher HP stats, but with Pain Split, it can take away a lot of it, especially when the opponent attacks it a lot. Dusknoir was stuck with an "Okay" Ability. Though it can be helpful to destroy SpecsMence - though not the best counter. Will-o-Wisp halves the opponent's attack stat - turning it into a scary Physical Wall. Shadowsneak gives it an advantage to destroy speed passing teams. Shadowsneak strikes before Ninjask's Substitute and destroys it. The others - you should pretty much understand.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (5:49 AM).
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Now why would it need more Def EV's if it's gotten Will-o-Wisp? You're raising it's Defense too high. Careful nature is pretty good on Dusknoir

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EV : 252 HP / 102 DEF / 156 SDF
Nature : Careful/Adamant
Trait : Pressure
Moves :
- Pain Split
- Will-o-Wisp
- Shadow Sneak/Brick Break
- Earthquake/Ice Punch/Thunderpunch

Blah, I stopped using this fellow after it's Will-o-Wisp started to miss consecutively
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Old October 27th, 2007 (10:33 AM).
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I have one Careful and one Impish, and I love rocking substitute on them...

both of them have worked very well, it just depends on what team I feel like using, and which one I'm in the mood to use.

I love stallling with them because Pressure really messes with your opponent's pokemon... I once outstalled a Blissey and had it struggle to death.... felt very... nice to do so.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (11:10 AM).
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I have one Careful and one Impish, and I love rocking substitute on them...

both of them have worked very well, it just depends on what team I feel like using, and which one I'm in the mood to use.

I love stallling with them because Pressure really messes with your opponent's pokemon... I once outstalled a Blissey and had it struggle to death.... felt very... nice to do so.
yeah sub on dusknoir can get really anyoying
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