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Old October 27th, 2007 (10:45 AM).
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How's it look?

Gyarados @Leftovers
252 Atk / ?
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Ice Fang
Earthquake

Bronzong @Leftovers
252 HP / 144 Atk / 94 SDef / 20 Def
Relaxed Nature with Levitate
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis

Espeon @ ?
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Timid Nature
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot
?

Nidoking @Leftovers
240 SAtk / 136 Spd / 132 Atk
Lonely Nature
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Yanmega @Leftovers
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Modest Nature with Speed Boost
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Protect

Charizard @Expert Belt
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
Flare Blitz
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
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Old October 27th, 2007 (10:55 AM).
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HP [fighting] could work for a 4th move for espeon...
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Old October 27th, 2007 (11:13 AM).
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I like it!!

It's a good team!!

Espeon should have a dark attack for its fourth move.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (11:23 AM).
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Gyarados always is Taunt DDdos. It stops Skarmory from walling it and starts to make it Drill Peck for its life O_O
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Old October 27th, 2007 (11:46 AM).
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dont know if its the standard garydos or not but i really like that set
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Old October 28th, 2007 (6:56 AM).
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HP [fighting] could work for a 4th move for espeon...
I'm kind-of trying to avoid hidden power. It's just too hard to get along with the right nature and good ivs and such.

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I like it!!

It's a good team!!

Espeon should have a dark attack for its fourth move.
Thank you. But aside from bite, Espeon doesn't get anything dark type..

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Gyarados always is Taunt DDdos. It stops Skarmory from walling it and starts to make it Drill Peck for its life O_O
That's true. What move to get rid of though?

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dont know if its the standard garydos or not but i really like that set
Thanks.
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Old October 28th, 2007 (7:12 AM).
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get rid of Ice Fang or EQ which ever you prefer.

Espeon could always have Morning Sun ifor recovery.
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Old October 28th, 2007 (8:48 AM). Edited October 28th, 2007 by Iceman3k.
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How's it look?

Gyarados @Leftovers
212 HP / 96 Atk / 24 Def / 176 Spd
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Ice Fang
Taunt
I'm pretty sure people ran with a lot less Speed And Attack on their Gyarados, but I run mine a little more offensive.
And you need Taunt to screw off Skarmory.


Bronzong @Leftovers
252 HP / 144 Atk / 94 SDef / 20 Def
Relaxed Nature with Levitate
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
This is okay, I guess.

Espeon @ Choice Specs / Leftovers
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Timid Nature
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot
Hidden Power (Fighting) / Calm Mind
HP Fighting if you're using Specs: Calm Mind if not.

Nidoking @ Expert Belt / Choice Scarf
80 Atk / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Lonely Nature
Earthquake
Megahorn
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Proper concept, bad EVs.

Yanmega @ Petaya Berry
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Modest Nature with Speed Boost
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Substitute
Petaya Berry is your friend.

Charizard @ Shell Bell
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
Flare Blitz
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Recoil moves need to be backed up with Shell Bell Recovery.
Status infliction problems, as well as a horrible run-in with Tyranitar.
And you need more defensive walls, too. Also, this team isn't really Stealth Rock Friendly.
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Old October 28th, 2007 (8:50 AM). Edited October 28th, 2007 by Arcknight316.
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How's it look?

Gyarados @Leftovers
252 Atk / ?
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Ice Fang
Earthquake

This is Standard, but you could try BulkyDos as well.

Bronzong @Leftovers
252 HP / 144 Atk / 94 SDef / 20 Def
Relaxed Nature with Levitate
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis

That's good.

Espeon @ ?
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Timid Nature
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot
?

If it's Timid, DON"T gice it Grass Knot! Not so sure on the 4th move, though.

Nidoking @Leftovers
240 SAtk / 136 Spd / 132 Atk
Lonely Nature
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

MixKing works.

Yanmega @Leftovers
252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Modest Nature with Speed Boost
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Protect

Most use this as a Baton Passer, but it can Sweep.

Charizard @Expert Belt
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
Flare Blitz
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance

The Pokemon of choice are good, but the structure isn't. The only Pokemon you have that can take a hit is Bronzong. You need more walls AND a Rapid Spinner.

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I'm kind-of trying to avoid hidden power. It's just too hard to get along with the right nature and good ivs and such.



Thank you. But aside from bite, Espeon doesn't get anything dark type..



That's true. What move to get rid of though?



Thanks.

i think the gyra set is standard. also, ghost moves are essentially the same as dark, except they dont affect normal types. on espeon, u could go with shadow ball
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Old October 28th, 2007 (9:23 AM).
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You have a LOT of sweepers and no special wall or rapid spinner, as darkknight said. You have Yanmega and Espeon special sweeping, Charizard and Gyarados physcial sweeping, Nidoking bolt-beaming, hes not the most efective bolt-beamer there is, but its workabkle, and one physical wall. Yu need to remove probably one special and physical sweepers for a special wall and rapid spinner, saaay, Blissey and Torkoal/Forretress.
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Old October 28th, 2007 (9:52 AM).
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Thanks you three, you've been the most helpful.

Just a couple questions:

Is there any other good special walls beside Blissey that would fit my team well?

How do Donphan and Claydol do as Rapid Spinners?

Darkknight- Why not give Espeon Grass knot?
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Old October 28th, 2007 (9:56 AM). Edited October 28th, 2007 by Arcknight316.
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Thanks you three, you've been the most helpful.

Just a couple questions:

Is there any other good special walls beside Blissey that would fit my team well?

How do Donphan and Claydol do as Rapid Spinners?

Darkknight- Why not give Espeon Grass knot?

well, the power would be decreased due to timid. it still a considerable choice, tho. those are good rapid spinners; i myself use torkoal, though.
special walls? *checks serebiis top 100 list* regice, steel, probopass, and mantine

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Thanks you three, you've been the most helpful.

Just a couple questions:

Is there any other good special walls beside Blissey that would fit my team well?

How do Donphan and Claydol do as Rapid Spinners?

Darkknight- Why not give Espeon Grass knot?

well, the power would be decreased due to timid. it still a considerable choice, tho. those are good rapid spinners; i myself use torkoal, though.
special walls? *checks serebiis top 100 list* regice, steel, probopass, and mantine
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