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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:26 PM).
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i recently got wifi and i wanted to make a real team and i need help, i have 2 pokemon made so far but i need help making the rest of my team and i need help with items.

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Natural Cure
Timid Nature
252 Spd 252 Sp Att 4Hp
Surf
Tbolt
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin

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Sandstream
Adamant Nature
252 Att 252 Spd 4 HP
DD
EQ
SE
Crunch

I need help with other pokemon for the other roles
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:33 PM).
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SKARMBLISSDOL!!!

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Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Whirlwind/Roar
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Drill Peck/Brave Bird
-Roost/Rest

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Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def or Sp Atk
-Seismic Toss/Ice Beam/Stealth Rock
-Thunderwave/Ice Beam/Stealth Rock
-Aromatherapy/Ice Beam/Stealth Rock
-Softboiled

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Bold/Impish/Relaxed Nature
EVs: 236 HP, 136 Atk (or Sp Atk), 108 Def, 30 SDef
-Rapin Spin
-Ice Beam/Psychic/Charge Beam/Earth Power/Earthquake
-Ice Beam/Psychic/Charge Beam/Earth Power/Earthquake
-Light Screen/Reflect/Explosion/Rest

Choice city, but combined these three pokemon make one hell of a walling team (along with proper prediction)

Some moves are mandatory, like Softboiled on Blissey and Rapid Spin on Claydol. Ice Beam on Blissey may need some HP EVs turned into Sp Atk EVs though
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:36 PM).
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oh ok thanks for the suggestion
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:52 PM).
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IMO, SR on blissey is silly. Skarm does fine with spikes, correct?

You need a physical sweeper. Try heracross, as it can also absorb status.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:53 PM).
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Tyranitar and Starmie are special and phyiscal sweepers, well ones a tanlk but WTV so that leaves physical wall, special wall, a tank and a stealth rocker, I live doing these, for Starmie and Tyranitar.. hmmm...

Physical Wall
Steelix or Skarmory, Dusknoir maybe
Special Wall
Blissey or Umbreon, Dusknoir again if not using for physical
Tank
Rhyperior, Curselax, Cursepert
Stealth Rocker
Most wall take care of this anyways. Fill in iwht Tangrowth or something, maybe Togekiss.

Take your pick, I'll give you sets.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:57 PM).
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I'd just use skarmblissdol, really...

Only DDtar is a physical sweeper. If you use heracross:

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Sleep Talk
- Megahorn
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge

CBcross is win.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (7:58 PM).
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umm... maybe physical wall: Steelix
Special wall:Umbreon
Tank: Swampert, just looked at the stats right now, i got surprised
I dont really kno for the filler tho
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There is the issue of people being all NO SKARMBLISS on the battle treads now. And filler, I dunno... Meganium to Aromatherapy everything?
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:00 PM).
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umm... maybe physical wall: Steelix
Special wall:Umbreon
Tank: Swampert, just looked at the stats right now, i got surprised
I dont really kno for the filler tho
Umbreon isn't a great special wall IMO...especially since all the EVs need to be pumped into def. Use milotic maybe. Swampert is a tremendous tank, I use it myself.

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There is the issue of people being all NO SKARMBLISS on the battle treads now.
those people are n00bs, or they are too lazy to get the proper counters.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:01 PM).
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Hmm.... theres alot of choices

APCW13, i think i'll use that heracross
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For CBcross, fopcus punch is another option, and a rare excpetion to the "no 2 moves of the same type on 1 pokemon" rule. It let's skarm know who's boss. It requires pinpoint prediction though.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:03 PM).
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oh .. i guess ur right about umbreon
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:04 PM).
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Not like a SkarmBliss counter is hard, just get a good mixed sweeper like Electivire, Infernape, Chainchomp, Tyraniboah, Lucario, Salamence etc etc etc

Some people are just lazy, SkarmBliss banning isn't an official thing, so I suggest you use it
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:06 PM).
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hmmm, ur probably right so i'll probably use SkarmBliss
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:12 PM).
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hmmm, ur probably right so i'll probably use SkarmBliss
i use koalbliss (new thing i made), but thats me
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i use koalbliss (new thing i made), but thats me
Koalbliss gets pwnt by electivire...bad. It still works at least. If you don't want to use the evil puffball, I'd go snorlax.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:15 PM).
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Snoirlax or Curselax Anti-Pop?
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:16 PM).
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Snorlax? hmm theres a lot of choices to pick, but i just remembered that i lost my emerald game somewhere so i cant get seismic toss for blissey so i dont kno what to do with blissey anymore
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Curselax is pretty easy to counter, though I love it to death. If that second option was lax + dusknoir, that works too.

EDIT: Seismic toss can be gained in emerald. there are no good special walls in emerald really...milotic maybe,but Tbolt > milotic.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:17 PM).
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Ice Beam is a common replacement for Seismic Toss on Bliss. You just have to invest a few EVs into SAtk.
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Old October 27th, 2007 (8:19 PM). Edited October 28th, 2007 by Twin Mewtwo.
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oh ok, maybe i can use ice beam on blissey

i would use seismic toss but i lost emerald

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Curselax is pretty easy to counter, though I love it to death. If that second option was lax + dusknoir, that works too.
Is there like a combo thing with those 2 or something?

So my team so far is ....

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Natural Cure
252 Spd 252 Sp att 4 Hp
RS
Tbolt
Surf
Ice Beam

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Adamant nature
252 Att 252 Spd 4 Hp
Sandstream
DD
EQ
SE
Crunch

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Impish
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Att
Whirlwind
SR
Roost/Rest
Drill Peck

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252 Hp 252 Def 6 Sp att
Bold nature
Ice beam(dont have emerald anymore)
Aromatherapy
Soft boiled
Thunder wave

Swampert, i need the moveset for swampert ....

and for the last slot, i need a mixed sweeper or something
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Old October 28th, 2007 (8:56 AM).
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The best mixed sweepers are Lucario and Infernape, I think Infernape fits your team pretty well. Starmie I believe holds either Wise Glasses or Focus Sash, I cant remember, give Tyranitar a Life Orb, Skarmory gets leftovers, and Swamperts basic set is

Swampert-Leftovers
Adamant/Impish-Torrent
EVs-Get someone else, I suck at EVs
Curse
EQ
Avalanche
Waterfall
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Old October 28th, 2007 (1:05 PM).
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oh ok thanks so my team now is

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Natural Cure
252 Spd 252 Sp att 4 Hp
RS
Tbolt
Surf
Ice Beam

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Adamant nature
252 Att 252 Spd 4 Hp
Sandstream
DD
EQ
SE
Crunch

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Impish
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Att
Whirlwind
SR
Roost/Rest
Drill Peck

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Natural Cure
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Sp att
Bold nature
Ice beam(dont have emerald anymore)
Aromatherapy
Soft boiled
Thunder wave

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Adamant/Impish
Torrent
EVs- ?????
Curse
EQ
Avalanche
Waterfall

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252 SpD 126 Att 126 SpA
Close Combat
Grass knot?
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Need more help please
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Old October 28th, 2007 (1:07 PM).
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Close Combat Grass Knot Flamethrower Earthquake is Napes set.
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Old October 28th, 2007 (1:09 PM).
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Hasty
252 SpD 126 Att 126 SpA
CC
EQ
Grass Knot
Flamethrower

I still need help with swampert's Evs, and who should be my lead?
 

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