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Old November 7th, 2007 (12:52 PM). Edited November 8th, 2007 by Shiraishi.
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Due to my lack of a Seismic toss Blissey, I'm using Cresselia to special wall o-o

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Calm(Best I could get)
252 HP/200 Sp def/56 Def(I'll write the reason why..)
Ice beam
Charge beam
Moonlight
Reflect/Thunder wave/CM

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252 Def/252 HP/4 Atk
Drill peck
Spikes
Whirlwind
Roost

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Naive
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Dragon claw
FIre blast
EQ
Swords dance

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Timid
252 sp atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Surf
Ice beam
T-bolt
Psychic/Rapid spin

I'm having a real hard time with this set, I need a Gengar counter since my special wall is a psychic type, but I also need a spinner @[email protected]

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Jolly
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Ice punch
Night slash
Aerial ace
Brick break

Couldn't fit pursuit on there as I need a CBHeracross counter :/ Skarm is ok with ScarfCross.

I'm not sure about the last slot, I want to fill it up with a physical tank that is not weak to electric :x As for Cressy's EVs, I did that because it's Sp def IVs is 0, but it's def IVs is 31 o_o Those EVs should put the SP def in the 350s and the def is the 280-290 range.
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:16 PM).
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nice team:D

i have a seismic tossing blissey if u want one, but it dosent have aromatherepy or heal bell, instead it has stealth rock
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:17 PM).
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Why are you running hasty on an all attack Vire?
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:18 PM).
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Whoops. I may change the T-bolt, not really sure about it :/ Reaper, whats the nature, stats on that Blissey..I need a good IVd one.
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:19 PM).
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To get it's speed to 317 o-o Helps a lot actually.. Reaper, whats the stats on the Blissey? I need a good IVd one :/
And wouldn't jolly accomplish this better? O_o

You really need a heal beller...bliss would be nice, eh?
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:21 PM).
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Whoops. Misunderstood what you meant, I'm still debated whether to put T-bolt..Bliss would be nice, but I'd hafta change the whole team :/ Who should I use the last two slots?
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Old November 7th, 2007 (1:47 PM).
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Still no Thunderbolt on Electrive?..........;O


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252 HP/200 Sp def/56 Def
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-Thunder wave

I would really give Cresselia the Def EV's more than the Special Def EV's.
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Old November 7th, 2007 (3:02 PM).
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Can't do that with my Sp def IVs at 0 :/ The only heal beller I have at the moment is not in this team.It's Celebi, who could also be a bit better at the IV department...
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Old November 7th, 2007 (9:46 PM).
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Maybe just don't worry about the weakness to Electric, because it seems in Competitive battling the big damage is lying with Physic moves or big hitting moves like Hydro Cannon. Because Hyrdo Cannon on Blastoise is 120 Damage, plus with It's ability you can have 1.5X the damage. And if it's super effective, and stabbed your looking at something like 4.5X damage :)

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Old November 7th, 2007 (11:17 PM).
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Maybe just don't worry about the weakness to Electric, because it seems in Competitive battling the big damage is lying with Physic moves or big hitting moves like Hydro Cannon. Because Hyrdo Cannon on Blastoise is 120 Damage, plus with It's ability you can have 1.5X the damage. And if it's super effective, and stabbed your looking at something like 4.5X damage :)

My idea btw ;)
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Psychic is only used with STAB because it has rather bad coverage (Fighting and Poison... woot)

Hydro Cannon is always stupid, why let your opponent switch in an Electric type and destroy you during recharge... pffft
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Old November 8th, 2007 (12:48 PM).
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Maybe just don't worry about the weakness to Electric, because it seems in Competitive battling the big damage is lying with Physic moves or big hitting moves like Hydro Cannon. Because Hyrdo Cannon on Blastoise is 120 Damage, plus with It's ability you can have 1.5X the damage. And if it's super effective, and stabbed your looking at something like 4.5X damage :)

My idea btw ;)
No offense, your idea sucks. Hydro cannon fails and it's base power is 150 if you want STAB abuse go for a rain dance Kingdra k? any really useful suggestions anyone..?
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You may want to go with Rest >> Moonlight on Cresselia just because of Hippowdon and Tyranitars Sandstream make Moonlight, well fail and not recover much health.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (1:02 PM).
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I'd have to go Rest-Talk then :/ But, if T-tar comes out I'd gtfo to w/e physical tank I have. I can kill Hippo without Moonlight because he can't EQ me o-o Who are good pokes for my last 2 slots?
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Old November 8th, 2007 (1:05 PM).
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I'd have to go Rest-Talk then :/ But, if T-tar comes out I'd gtfo to w/e physical tank I have. I can kill Hippo without Moonlight because he can't EQ me o-o Who are good pokes for my last 2 slots?
Yeah just watch out for Choice Band Tyranitars whom often carry pursuit..

You may wanna go weavile to solve your Gengar problem somewhat...
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Old November 8th, 2007 (1:10 PM).
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Ah yes Weavile..Thanks ^_^

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Ice punch
Night slash
Pursuit
Brick break?

This good? I don't really know Weavile so feel free to lol at me.
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Ah yes Weavile..Thanks ^_^

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Jolly
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
Ice punch
Night slash
Pursuit
Brick break?

This good? I don't really know Weavile so feel free to lol at me.
It can also work with Choice Band and Ice Shard >> ice Punch for getting first hit in on Dragon Dancers, you can also put in Aerial Ace >> Night Slash if you fear Heracross. But yeah the set you have there is fine ...
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Old November 8th, 2007 (1:47 PM).
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Switched the moves for Weavile and replaced 'Vire with Chomp because I need speed.
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