The PokéCommunity Forums  

Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > Pokémon Gaming > Previous Generations
Reload this Page 4th Gen Legends - Real or not?

Notices
For all updates, view the main page.

Previous Generations A hub for all previous Main Pokémon Games, from Red & Blue to Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee!

Ad Content
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #226   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (4:04 PM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Near enough in a nutshell of what I tried to say.
>.<

The big faceoff would've been intersting..
Being as Mew could just recreate more pokémon's, and Arceus was some uber power maniac.


EDIT:
Diageo; It was more of a joke than anything.
But all it boild down too is a few subtle differences.
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #227   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (4:27 PM).
J-Rad's Avatar
J-Rad J-Rad is offline
In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: reading a good book
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 1,187
add on the final battle...

Mew at the top of spear pillar is about to finish off Arueses while aruses is tring desperatly to muster up all of its remainign power...Mew fires its blast and so does arueses the blast was so strong that the explosion nearly desrtoyed the entire mountain arues stood deafeted and sealed up, but in the blast areses also sheilded a branch and carved it into a flute that contained a large amount of both Mew's and Arueces's powers and would have enough power to unlock him and it was indestructable Mew just realizing this finds the flute and hides it forever....

and thus is teh story of teh Azure flute...
__________________

Quote:
Typhlosion used Solarbeam!
Regirock lost 100% of its health!
Regirock used Rockslide!
Typhlosion lost 101% of its health!
J-Rad's Typhlosion fainted!
Teh_Pie_Knight wins!
This actualy happened to me when battleing my friend...
Shoddy Battle Username: J-Rad
Platinum FC: 1032-7167-9905
Brawl FC: 3780-8949-9239
:t157::t233::t146:
  #228   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (4:43 PM). Edited December 1st, 2007 by Zungie.
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
More like..
Arceus thinks he has the better of Mew, but little did he know, Mew had a little trick up his sleeve. There was only 1 oppertunity, 1 time he could gather enough strength. So Me travelled to the highest point on a planet named Earth, and waited for moonrise. As the moon appeared from behing small hills, Mew began to shine a slivery grey colour. The Arceus stood there, nearly amused by the oppertunity of finishing of Mew. The small pink creature's eyes began to open. A bright light shone from it's eyes, blinding that of Arceus. In rage and confusion, Arceus uses it's final, most powerfull attack, known to destroy planets. Arceus blasted Mew with the 1st part of Judgement. The Mew gritted it's teeth and shut it's eyes again. Mew felt her insides start to disconfigure.. Was this it, the end of Mew and all of Pokémon? The feeling inside Mew grows, but what happens next is an act of true amazement. The Mew opens it's eyes again, they still beam this white light. The Arceus throws Mew a pittyfull laugh. Then with a mighty raw, Mew throws a white, silvery light at Arceus. A bubble grows larger, and larger. It starts to fill up the Universe, pushing planets off course. Then after a high pitched noise inside the bubble, it pop's. Shards of power fly out of the bubble, crashing onto Earth. This was it. Mew lies down, and closes her eyes. The Mew turns into a small oval, simmilar to the shape Pokémon get before being born. Flowers of bold colours, and grass as green as Bulbasaur's back, in what looked like the shape of a tree. Besides the small egg lay a branch that had snapped from one of the many flourishing oak trees. One day a small boy, maybe 7 or 8 years of age, comes across this small twig on an adventure in the land. He notices the branch is hollow, more at one ant than the other. The boy picks it up and gives it a toot. Clouds of purple and blue gathered across the green pastures. The boy dropped the stick and ran home, where he cried himself to sleep. Noone know what blowing into that stick did. All that is know, is that it was powerfull, and that the power could only be best described as having an evil presence.

The bubble getting larger = Arcues' power hitting the sides, increasing mass.
Arceus is turned into an egg, which is left to the readers disgretion.

Like it? :D
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #229   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (5:05 PM).
J-Rad's Avatar
J-Rad J-Rad is offline
In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: reading a good book
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 1,187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zungie View Post
More like..
Arceus thinks he has the better of Mew, but little did he know, Mew had a little trick up his sleeve. There was only 1 oppertunity, 1 time he could gather enough strength. So Me travelled to the highest point on a planet named Earth, and waited for moonrise. As the moon appeared from behing small hills, Mew began to shine a slivery grey colour. The Arceus stood there, nearly amused by the oppertunity of finishing of Mew. The small pink creature's eyes began to open. A bright light shone from it's eyes, blinding that of Arceus. In rage and confusion, Arceus uses it's final, most powerfull attack, known to destroy planets. Arceus blasted Mew with the 1st part of Judgement. The Mew gritted it's teeth and shut it's eyes again. Mew felt her insides start to disconfigure.. Was this it, the end of Mew and all of Pokémon? The feeling inside Mew grows, but what happens next is an act of true amazement. The Mew opens it's eyes again, they still beam this white light. The Arceus throws Mew a pittyfull laugh. Then with a mighty raw, Mew throws a white, silvery light at Arceus. A bubble grows larger, and larger. It starts to fill up the Universe, pushing planets off course. Then after a high pitched noise inside the bubble, it pop's. Shards of power fly out of the bubble, crashing onto Earth. This was it. Mew lies down, and closes her eyes. The Mew turns into a small oval, simmilar to the shape Pokémon get before being born. And what happens to Arceus? 1 thing is for sure, he's not bothering this universe no more!

The bubble getting larger = Arcues' power hitting the sides, increasing mass.
Arceus is turned into an egg, which is left to the readers disgretion.

Like it? :D

seems good, but were would the azure flute fit in, it is the 1 way to get arueses so it hould fit in....
__________________

Quote:
Typhlosion used Solarbeam!
Regirock lost 100% of its health!
Regirock used Rockslide!
Typhlosion lost 101% of its health!
J-Rad's Typhlosion fainted!
Teh_Pie_Knight wins!
This actualy happened to me when battleing my friend...
Shoddy Battle Username: J-Rad
Platinum FC: 1032-7167-9905
Brawl FC: 3780-8949-9239
:t157::t233::t146:
  #230   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (5:20 PM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Hope you like the new ending!
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #231   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (5:25 PM).
wolfie1177's Avatar
wolfie1177 wolfie1177 is offline
PC needs to get more brutal!!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Age: 33
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 842
I think all of you are overthinking the whole thing a bit. Gamefreak can do whatever they want because their target audience is probably 8-12 years old, and the naivity of that age group makes it possible for the new "legends" to be whatever they want them to be as long as they look cool. It sucks for older Poke-fans, but it's the truth.
__________________
Join the Phoenix Wright Fan Club in Other Clubs!
  #232   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 1st, 2007 (5:30 PM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfie1177 View Post
I think all of you are overthinking the whole thing a bit. Gamefreak can do whatever they want because their target audience is probably 8-12 years old, and the naivity of that age group makes it possible for the new "legends" to be whatever they want them to be as long as they look cool. It sucks for older Poke-fans, but it's the truth.
I think it's fairly correct really.
But such a short age bracket, and so many older fans?
I wreakon they just pray on us all being as naive as 7-year-olds, and it's not like a topic like this it bought up often.
I think many of us older fans are less naive, more acceptant.
We know most of the contenet is based for younger kids, but we just try to make the bast out of a bad storyline(Not saying that the storylines are bad, just not thought out propperly).
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #233   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 2nd, 2007 (7:50 AM).
El Gofre's Avatar
El Gofre El Gofre is offline
I'm Back.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 91
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 3,459
wolfie stop wrecking our fun :(
Here's a question: Rotom? Is he legendry? Some will say no cuz he can breed, but so can manaphy. He is one of a kind, there is no mention of its origins, so what is he?
__________________
Hi again.
  #234   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 2nd, 2007 (8:42 AM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Just 'cause they're ledgendary, doesn't mean there is just one of them.
Like you say, manaphy is ledgendary, but because it can breed, there is more than 1.
(And I don't think that Manaphy is a hermaphrodite..)
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #235   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 2nd, 2007 (8:43 AM).
J-Rad's Avatar
J-Rad J-Rad is offline
In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: reading a good book
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 1,187
rotm is a rare pokemon......i think its supposed to gaurd teh old cheatue...
__________________

Quote:
Typhlosion used Solarbeam!
Regirock lost 100% of its health!
Regirock used Rockslide!
Typhlosion lost 101% of its health!
J-Rad's Typhlosion fainted!
Teh_Pie_Knight wins!
This actualy happened to me when battleing my friend...
Shoddy Battle Username: J-Rad
Platinum FC: 1032-7167-9905
Brawl FC: 3780-8949-9239
:t157::t233::t146:
  #236   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 2nd, 2007 (9:37 AM).
Shiny Umbreon's Avatar
Shiny Umbreon Shiny Umbreon is offline
光るブラッキー
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Watching you from the shadows...
Age: 30
Posts: 3,656
Rotom is not a legendary because you can get more than one (breeding). Manaphy can breed, but you won't get another one.

wolfie, I think that's half true, sadly. While it's fun to discuss how all this fits, we can't deny there are some things just made out of the blue.
__________________

  #237   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (12:26 PM).
El Gofre's Avatar
El Gofre El Gofre is offline
I'm Back.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 91
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 3,459
Unfortunately its true, they put in whatever makes them the most money. But a bit of mystery goes a long way, as the 200+ posts show. Please dont fill this post with pestimism, Im of to uni in a couple of years so i wanna retain my childhood for a bit longer :)

Back on topic...
Deoxys? what are out thoughts?
__________________
Hi again.
  #238   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (12:31 PM).
J-Rad's Avatar
J-Rad J-Rad is offline
In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: reading a good book
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Modest
Posts: 1,187
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny Umbreon View Post
Rotom is not a legendary because you can get more than one (breeding). Manaphy can breed, but you won't get another one.

wolfie, I think that's half true, sadly. While it's fun to discuss how all this fits, we can't deny there are some things just made out of the blue.
yeah bu ti do belive in a camoe episode in the anime about the whirlislands it shows a baby lugia the richie is trying ot protect from TR then in the end it goes baack to its MOMMIE so i say that is more than 1 :/, but lugia is still legendary....and how one of the frontier brains used articuno...
__________________

Quote:
Typhlosion used Solarbeam!
Regirock lost 100% of its health!
Regirock used Rockslide!
Typhlosion lost 101% of its health!
J-Rad's Typhlosion fainted!
Teh_Pie_Knight wins!
This actualy happened to me when battleing my friend...
Shoddy Battle Username: J-Rad
Platinum FC: 1032-7167-9905
Brawl FC: 3780-8949-9239
:t157::t233::t146:
  #239   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (12:52 PM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Not alot of people posting here refer to the anime much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
Three Lugia have appeared in the anime: a large Lugia from the second movie near Shamouti Island in the Orange Islands, and a parent Lugia and its child Lugia (nicknamed Silver by Oliver) near Silver Rock Isle in the Whirl Islands. In both cases a human has attempted to capture them: Lawrence III attempted to capture the large Lugia for himself, inadvertently threatening the world's balance in the process, and Dr. Namba attempted to capture both the parent Lugia and Silver for Giovanni. Both were foiled by Ash and his friends. Lugia is so far the only legendary Pokémon to appear in three consecutive regular Pokémon episodes.
Hope this helps.
Reference: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lugia_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

EDIT: Notice the use of words such as "thier", and "them".
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #240   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (2:28 PM).
El Gofre's Avatar
El Gofre El Gofre is offline
I'm Back.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 91
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 3,459
No zungie! come back to gameland! stay away from the anime! its bad! inconsistencies!

As you can see i go strictly by game information, as there often clashes between the shows and the games. And seeing as the games came first, they are usually right :)

Now answer my question people: what/why is deoxys???
__________________
Hi again.
  #241   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (2:55 PM).
Diageo's Avatar
Diageo Diageo is offline
Corrupted...
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hibernia
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 85
i think the cartoon has to be factually correct by gamefreak to alow them to show it....
__________________
Wifi connector stopped working ¬¬

Wii Code: 7883 3897 0189 4106
Diamond Code: 5198 0556 7743

Looking for a

Pm me if u have one please....
Pm me if u have Metroid Prime 3 Corruptions, Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Animal Crossing or Mario Kart.
Super Smash Bros PKMN Battle here. Try it out!!!A new style of "Hurt n' Heal"
  #242   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (5:24 PM).
wolfie1177's Avatar
wolfie1177 wolfie1177 is offline
PC needs to get more brutal!!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Age: 33
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 842
Lol, sorry if I offended y'alls. I was just throwing in my two cents. I'll leave now ^_^
__________________
Join the Phoenix Wright Fan Club in Other Clubs!
  #243   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (6:22 PM).
black_cat's Avatar
black_cat black_cat is offline
still learning to hack
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: richmond, KY
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 19
maybe the different parts of the sea have different rulers?
  #244   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 3rd, 2007 (10:36 PM).
eternalglory's Avatar
eternalglory eternalglory is offline
Private Eye
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Your imagination!
Age: 33
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 88
the sea really is a big place, makes sense to me that more then one lugia would be around... but would that make more than one set of legendary birds?
Also, Deoxys came from an asteroid/meteor (im not an astrologist here) with some space virus that mutated and formed him.
If you want to go strictly by games, take Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (ha).
Spoiler:
When encountered after Rayquaza destroys the meteor, he even says that he came from space and is a mutated virus, but has no idea how this all happened.

Also, why were people depicting an epic battle between Mew and Arceus? Go to a Pokemon Fanfic if you want to pull that, don't go off topic in this thread.
__________________
darkrai427: Wow i juts got a shiny steelix!!! :classic:
eternalglory: Isnt he already shiny?
darkrai427: ..... I hate you so much
  #245   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 4th, 2007 (9:09 AM).
Zungie's Avatar
Zungie Zungie is offline
Professor Zee
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: In Prof. Zee's Center of Pokémon Research of course!
Age: 29
Gender:
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 93
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofre View Post
No zungie! come back to gameland! stay away from the anime! its bad! inconsistencies!

As you can see i go strictly by game information, as there often clashes between the shows and the games. And seeing as the games came first, they are usually right :)

Now answer my question people: what/why is deoxys???
I was just answering that guy's question, and backing him up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diageo View Post
i think the cartoon has to be factually correct by gamefreak to alow them to show it....
Not really, as it goes off the tanjent alot.
And seeing as the movies are for the most part based on the anime, they're not the best reference either.
Basically, the games come first.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfie1177 View Post
Lol, sorry if I offended y'alls. I was just throwing in my two cents. I'll leave now ^_^
Lol, no problem.
If anything thoguh, it was a valid point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by black_cat View Post
maybe the different parts of the sea have different rulers?
Woulds make a fair bit of sense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by eternalglory View Post
the sea really is a big place, makes sense to me that more then one lugia would be around... but would that make more than one set of legendary birds?
Also, Deoxys came from an asteroid/meteor (im not an astrologist here) with some space virus that mutated and formed him.
If you want to go strictly by games, take Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (ha).
Spoiler:
When encountered after Rayquaza destroys the meteor, he even says that he came from space and is a mutated virus, but has no idea how this all happened.

Also, why were people depicting an epic battle between Mew and Arceus? Go to a Pokemon Fanfic if you want to pull that, don't go off topic in this thread.
OK firstly, there was a theory knocking around that Arceus was once evil. I made the story to help more people understand my theory. I might post it in the fan-fic board though :D
Secondly you heard of the ledgendary dogs?
Maybe this is another theory coming on :D
Different regions have different myths too.
And finaly, I don't know kuch behind de

To be continued!
__________________
♪_ Prof. Zee's Giveaway!

The OFFICIAL Cloning Guide!

♫_Wins
5 -LeeJ124(5-0)
♫_Losses
6 -Can't remember >.<
♫_Friend Code
0387 6130 7605
  #246   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 4th, 2007 (1:55 PM).
Diageo's Avatar
Diageo Diageo is offline
Corrupted...
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hibernia
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 85
when do the games contradict the anime? And how are they suppose to depict goldly powers in games, if they did that it would unbalance the game, but they can do that in the anime... Thats why u can only catch one legendary and all the stuff whereas the anime has more of them....
__________________
Wifi connector stopped working ¬¬

Wii Code: 7883 3897 0189 4106
Diamond Code: 5198 0556 7743

Looking for a

Pm me if u have one please....
Pm me if u have Metroid Prime 3 Corruptions, Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Animal Crossing or Mario Kart.
Super Smash Bros PKMN Battle here. Try it out!!!A new style of "Hurt n' Heal"
  #247   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 4th, 2007 (8:07 PM).
eternalglory's Avatar
eternalglory eternalglory is offline
Private Eye
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Your imagination!
Age: 33
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 88
why does zungie act like he owns this thread >_<
yes i have heard of the dogs
i made quite a legitimate post a while back, so stop being so damn condescending
__________________
darkrai427: Wow i juts got a shiny steelix!!! :classic:
eternalglory: Isnt he already shiny?
darkrai427: ..... I hate you so much
  #248   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 4th, 2007 (10:53 PM).
Eirikr's Avatar
Eirikr Eirikr is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Aussieland.
Age: 35
Gender:
Nature: Brave
Posts: 161
Thought I'd give my views on the legendaryness and creation.

When exactly was Mew called a God of any description, anywere, ever? It is the stated to be the "root of all pokemon", meaning that it was the initial breed of pokemon, not a God.

Red/Blue
So rare that it is still said to be a mirage by many experts. Only a few people have seen it worldwide.
Yellow
When viewed through a microscope, this Pokémon's short, fine, delicate hair can be seen.
Stadium
A mythical Pokémon of South America. A growing number of people have seen it recently.
Gold
Apparently, it appears only to those people who are pure of heart and have a strong desire to see it.
Silver
Its DNA is said to contain the genetic codes of all Pokémon, so it can use all kinds of techniques.
Crystal
Because it can learn any move, some people began research to see if it is the ancestor of all Pokémon.
Stadium 2
Apparently, it appears only to those people who are pure of heart and have a strong desire to see it.
Ruby
Mew is said to possess the genetic composition of all Pokémon. It is capable of making itself invisible at will, so it entirely avoids notice even if it approaches people.
Sapphire
Mew is said to possess the genetic composition of all Pokémon. It is capable of making itself invisible at will, so it entirely avoids notice even if it approaches people.
Emerald
A Mew is said to possess the genes of all Pokémon. It is capable of making itself invisible at will, so it entirely avoids notice even if it approaches people.
FireRed
A Pokémon of South America that was thought to have been extinct. It is very intelligent and learns any move.
LeafGreen
So rare that it is still said to be a mirage by many experts. Only a few people have seen it worldwide.
Diamond
Because it can use all kinds of moves, many scientists believe Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon.
Pearl
Many scholars regard it as the ancestor of Pokémon since it can use all known moves.

All Canon, none stating it is a God. Just the root species. I remember reading that in one of the various Pokemon manga series it is said that all pokemon are of the one species, just different offshoots due to area, climate and living conditions. Considering the SciFiness of Pokemon G1, the Pokedex readings of Mew, especialy in Gen4, this would prove to be correct. While Mew does not evolve, and certainly not any type of diety, it would adapt to it's surroundings, becoming different species.

From this, I go to the infernal mindboggler that is Arceus.

Diamond
It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1000 arms.
Pearl
It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.

While it is easy to see into it "Shaped the Universe" there is one key difference to Mew. Wording. Mythology is not always fact. Scholary involves research, and consider, while it is obvious the pokemon world was a very myth based place, it is now a very technological based place, so the research may have scientific basis, reason for wording aswell. I would assume the book that is ingame is a collection of Myths, not a research on their factual basis, again, due to no wording to assume otherwise. Likewise, with Palkia and Dialga, in canon(Games) we have yet to see Palkia and Dialga distort time, while both have the power to alter space(Thier emergance suggests they both have spacial altering abilities.) Dialga's pokedex does state, not "Myth Mention" it's time controling abilities.

This Myth talk also goes for the Hoenn Trio aswell. We see that Kyogre can create a rainstorm, on the level of Raindance, not on the level of flooding. Likewise with Groudon, he can intensify the suns rays like Sunnyday, nothing is done with land formation. Thankfully, other than living in extremely high altitude, Rayquaza has no "Godly" attributes associated with it in myths. These are obviously very gifted and powerful monsters, but far from land/sea creators. While I do not feel like copying it again, look them up in Bulbapedia, they state the words Myth and Mythology alot. As does Regigas. I'd assume the Regis, being human made, are based off of him, as he is "Legendary", the Pokedex states the word "Legend" in it's description.

Now, as for all this Sea Lord speak.

Kyogre is explained. He is credited with it's creation, but due to ingame events, lacks the power, he can just make it rain a hell of a lot. He dwells there though.

Lugia, on the other hand, while it does have alot of "It is said", but also has confirmation of it's extreme power from RSE, to the point where a light flutter blows down a house. All of this "Guardian" speak falls into the catagory of "Mythology, Legends and other non-factual Pokedex readings" Again, dwells in islands in the sea.

Manaphy, other than the Anime, with all it's pokedex, size, location, personality, ect descrepencies allocate Manaphy any greatness. Canon wise, he is nothing but extremely rare, like the [email protected]

So, realy, we have no Ruler of the Sea, all are area legends. Closest is Lugia, as his power is shown to be so great, with Kyogre as a second and Manaphy as a nothing.

Darkrai's sleep lulling and Dream creating is confirmed, while the nightmares are folktales, which is a new term. :P While the Boy on Iron Island may confirm it's Freddy Krueger-ness, it is not completely confirmed. Likely, but not a definite yes.

Cresselia, oddly enough, has no power, status or any mention.

Ho-Oh's qualities are all Myths and It is said aswell, nothing grounded, quite odd is it's lack of mentioning power, considering Lugia's. Not even the Reserrection tale gets a factual mention.

The original two trios are interesting though,
Articuno's has no Myth Mention of it's ability to create a blizzard(Doubtful if they mean a battle Blizzard, it's be a pointless mention)
Zapdos's GenIV dex confirms it's ability to contol Thunder(same as Articuno)
and Moltres' GenIII confirms it's fire controling abilities.(same as Previous)

Entei has never had his eruption abilities Myth Mentioned, always fact, but with that said, we hear Entei Roar, not bark, and their are few Volcanos.
Raikou has never had it's thunderbolts and rainclouds disputed(With this said, it's bloody lame as alot of other pokes can use Thunderbolt)
Suicune is the same with it's purification capabilities.

With these six Legendaries, and these specific qualities, nothing is disputed, everything is stated as fact, no Myth, Legend, no "It is said", this is quite odd considering the rest mostly are. One can gather these have had enough human contact.

On the topic of Jirachi, it has never been confirmed, it is all It has been said in relation to it's wish granting powers, and I would not take the attack Wish as evidence though, it is learnt by many.

The last one I can think of that has been allocated a high spot is Giratina, other than it's high states and Grave Living, it also has nothing concrete.

For future refernce, I'd say, before believing anything, read the wording, then decide. Key terms
MYTH
LEGEND
IT IS SAID
FOLKLORE

Now that was a long post :P
  #249   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 5th, 2007 (5:58 AM).
Diageo's Avatar
Diageo Diageo is offline
Corrupted...
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hibernia
Gender:
Nature: Relaxed
Posts: 85
WOW that was a great post, kinda what i was trying to say ages ago but then gave up... Well done man, I agree with you completely...
__________________
Wifi connector stopped working ¬¬

Wii Code: 7883 3897 0189 4106
Diamond Code: 5198 0556 7743

Looking for a

Pm me if u have one please....
Pm me if u have Metroid Prime 3 Corruptions, Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Animal Crossing or Mario Kart.
Super Smash Bros PKMN Battle here. Try it out!!!A new style of "Hurt n' Heal"
  #250   Link to this post, but load the entire thread.  
Old December 5th, 2007 (9:45 AM).
El Gofre's Avatar
El Gofre El Gofre is offline
I'm Back.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 91
Nature: Quirky
Posts: 3,459
Yeah thankyou Lt, some concrete that mew is the ancestor not god :)
But i stand by that kyogre/groudon shaped the land. They only get rain dance/sunny day cuz would it be wise to give kyogre something that makes him even stronger? its the only viable ability thats inkeeping with the story without making them next to invincible.
__________________
Hi again.
Closed Thread

Quick Reply

Join the conversation!

Create an account to post a reply in this thread, participate in other discussions, and more!

Create a PokéCommunity Account
Ad Content

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 9:05 AM.