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i think there is a connection between shaymin and celebi - as they both kind of are guardian of the same thing - also i heard a rumour that celebi is one of dialga's ally's and deoxys is one of palkia's ally's but the one that gets me going is Ho-Oh if it it is creator of rainbows it must be like god - since in the bible the story of Noah's ark explains god gives rainbows to show he is loving us - and in the anime every time a rainbow appears it is when you would think Ho-Oh would be happy

next is arceus he must have created azelf uxie and mespirit to maintain balance in the world while dialga and palkia were made to keep space and time in the balance then out of the vortex came deoxys - following palkia - and celebi - following dialga -

then when deoxys was getting close to earth raquazza noticed deoxys and had a tremendous battle against deoxys thinking deoxys was gone for good raquazza went back to the ozone layer but a few - thousand - years later deoxys came back not being as powerful as its ancestor raquazza had a struggle against deoxys but then when Ash arrived in the city deoxys felt that human kindness was important to him too so stopped attacking the town

then celebi got captured in a dark ball which didnt help the time part of the balance but then suicune comes in what connection does it have with celebi? i mean it wouldnt come saving it for no reason whatsoever


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i think there is a connection between shaymin and celebi - as they both kind of are guardian of the same thing - also i heard a rumour that celebi is one of dialga's ally's and deoxys is one of palkia's ally's but the one that gets me going is Ho-Oh if it it is creator of rainbows it must be like god - since in the bible the story of Noah's ark explains god gives rainbows to show he is loving us - and in the anime every time a rainbow appears it is when you would think Ho-Oh would be happy

next is arceus he must have created azelf uxie and mespirit to maintain balance in the world while dialga and palkia were made to keep space and time in the balance then out of the vortex came deoxys - following palkia - and celebi - following dialga -

then when deoxys was getting close to earth raquazza noticed deoxys and had a tremendous battle against deoxys thinking deoxys was gone for good raquazza went back to the ozone layer but a few - thousand - years later deoxys came back not being as powerful as its ancestor raquazza had a struggle against deoxys but then when Ash arrived in the city deoxys felt that human kindness was important to him too so stopped attacking the town

then celebi got captured in a dark ball which didnt help the time part of the balance but then suicune comes in what connection does it have with celebi? i mean it wouldnt come saving it for no reason whatsoever


well thats my say :)
I wouldn't draw parallels between the Bible and Pokémon. The last thing we need is for this thread to erupt into a huge clash of religion and such things.

Deoxys didn't attack the city to begin with. It was searching for its counterpart.

Suicune and Celebi appear to have no connection. They have a mutual understanding, however, as Celebi uses the lake water to heal itself, and Suicune keeps that water pure.

As far as we know, there's no connection between Celebi and Shaymin. There's also no connection between Palkia and Deoxys, nor any between Celebi and Dialga.
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about arceus and Mew i think Mew created Arceus beacause it says Mew is the ancestor of ALL pokemon and being god doesnt mean you created the earth like greek gods there is more than one so they didnt All create the world but i might be wrong..

did anyone get any of that lol :)
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about arceus and Mew i think Mew created Arceus beacause it says Mew is the ancestor of ALL pokemon and being god doesnt mean you created the earth like greek gods there is more than one so they didnt All create the world but i might be wrong..

did anyone get any of that lol :)
Proper English is a big help.

Anyway, since nothing could have existed before the vortex of chaos from which the Arceus Egg came from, it's impossible for Mew to have been responsible for the birth of Arceus.

The books in the top floor of Canalave Library state that Arceus hatched from an Egg that appeared from the vortex of chaos that existed before the universe. Arceus created the universe, along with Dialga and Palkia to create and govern time and space, respectively. Arceus then created Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf, who created and govern knowledge, emotion, and will, respectively.

Palkia, who created and governs space, no doubt created the hunks of rock and stars of flame we call the earth and sun. On our planet, a Mew was born, and from Mew, all other Pokémon came to be. Whether Groudon, Kygore, and Rayquaza came first, or if Mew came first, is up in the air. It could have gone either way.

But there's no way Mew could have created Arceus.
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Proper English is a big help.

Anyway, since nothing could have existed before the vortex of chaos from which the Arceus Egg came from, it's impossible for Mew to have been responsible for the birth of Arceus.

The books in the top floor of Canalave Library state that Arceus hatched from an Egg that appeared from the vortex of chaos that existed before the universe. Arceus created the universe, along with Dialga and Palkia to create and govern time and space, respectively. Arceus then created Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf, who created and govern knowledge, emotion, and will, respectively.

Palkia, who created and governs space, no doubt created the hunks of rock and stars of flame we call the earth and sun. On our planet, a Mew was born, and from Mew, all other Pokémon came to be. Whether Groudon, Kygore, and Rayquaza came first, or if Mew came first, is up in the air. It could have gone either way.

But there's no way Mew could have created Arceus.
what do u mean proper english lol :) i cant be bothered reading in canalve library

so what your saying is Mew is ancestor of all pokemon - except arceus - right? :)
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what do u mean proper english lol :) i cant be bothered reading in canalve library

so what your saying is Mew is ancestor of all pokemon - except arceus - right? :)
I mean type my way, not your way. See my signature for more details.

You really should read. If you can't be bothered to read some books, then how can you be bothered to post on a forum?

I'm saying Mew is the first Pokémon to originate from this world, and therefore can't be the ancestor of Arceus, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Palkia, or Dialga, because they already existed before that. It's possible that Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Regigigas, Regirock, Registeel, and Regice also existed prior to Mew, but there's no way to know yet. Look at my previous posts for details.
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I mean type my way, not your way. See my signature for more details.

You really should read. If you can't be bothered to read some books, then how can you be bothered to post on a forum?

I'm saying Mew is the first Pokémon to originate from this Pokémon, and therefore can't be the ancestor of Arceus, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Palkia, or Dialga, because they already existed before that. It's possible that Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Regigigas, Regirock, Registeel, and Regice also existed prior to Mew, but there's no way to know yet. Look at my previous posts for details.
lol i read in real life, but for some reason i cant be bothered to go to canalve library and read a book lol. You probably are right on the whole Mew thing :D.

i am just a bit clumsy when it comes to complicated things like, the relation of legendary pokemon i get a bit carried away and most of the time my things dont make very muck sense

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I mean type my way, not your way. See my signature for more details.

You really should read. If you can't be bothered to read some books, then how can you be bothered to post on a forum?

I'm saying Mew is the first Pokémon to originate from this Pokémon, and therefore can't be the ancestor of Arceus, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Palkia, or Dialga, because they already existed before that. It's possible that Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Regigigas, Regirock, Registeel, and Regice also existed prior to Mew, but there's no way to know yet. Look at my previous posts for details.
lol i read in real life, but for some reason i cant be bothered to go to canalve library and read a book lol. You probably are right on the whole Mew thing :D.

i am just a bit clumsy when it comes to complicated things like, the relation of legendary pokemon i get a bit carried away and most of the time my things dont make very much sense

lol muck what the heck was that about? :P
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lol i read in real life, but for some reason i cant be bothered to go to canalve library and read a book lol.
Go to Canalave City, get to the top floor of the library, and read everything. It's honestly easier than reading an actual book. Perhaps then you'll understand a bit more.

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no i cant..... ill start singing "i've got the power" and my Mum might take a heart attack

anyway im gonna read the canalve library books and come back with all the information i get see you in a bit ~ i've got the power power oh yeah ~

ok this is what it says in the book " in the beginning, there was only a churning turmoil of chaos. At the heart of the chaos, where all things became one,appeared an egg. Having tumbled from the vortex,the egg gave rise to the original one.

from itself,two beings the original one did make. Time started to spin.Space began to expand.From itself again, three living things the original one did make.

The two beings wished,and from them, matter came to be. The three living things wished and from them, spirit came to be.The world created, the original one took to unyeilding sleep...

wow you were right wasn't that bad :D
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i think there is a connection between shaymin and celebi - as they both kind of are guardian of the same thing
Wrong. Celebi is in no way a forset protector. Have you read his pokedex entries? He only appears in peaceful times. How can he protect it if he won't appear?
- also i heard a rumour that celebi is one of dialga's ally's
Some evidence, not certain though
and deoxys is one of palkia's ally's
Wrong. You're one of the many people taking 'space' too literally. He means the space the universe is in, not the stars and stuff. Deoxys is basically an ET
But the one that gets me going is Ho-Oh if it it is creator of rainbows it must be like god- since in the bible the story of Noah's ark explains god gives rainbows to show he is loving us - and in the anime every time a rainbow appears it is when you would think Ho-Oh would be happy
What? Ho-oh isnt the creator of rainbows. Fire-red's pokedex entriy states he lives at the foot of one. Does god live at the end of a rainbow? No. If this your argument you are calling Ho-oh and god leprecauns.
next is arceus he must have created azelf uxie and mespirit to maintain balance in the world while dialga and palkia were made to keep space and time in the balance then out of the vortex came deoxys - following palkia - and celebi - following dialga -
This wrong, simply because you are saying the creation of time and space came before Dialga and palkia, when it these to who created time and space. And you've pulled deoxys out of nowhere again.
then when deoxys was getting close to earth raquazza noticed deoxys and had a tremendous battle against deoxys thinking deoxys was gone for good raquazza went back to the ozone layer but a few - thousand - years later deoxys came back not being as powerful as its ancestor raquazza had a struggle against deoxys but then when Ash arrived in the city deoxys felt that human kindness was important to him too so stopped attacking the town

then celebi got captured in a dark ball which didnt help the time part of the balance but then suicune comes in what connection does it have with celebi? i mean it wouldnt come saving it for no reason whatsoever
Urgh, anime. GO WITH THE GAMES PEOPLE

well thats my say :)
Well thats my say. You would no what you are sayin is wrong if you had bothered to do any research and not guessed from a movie.

Thankyou for Waker for saying most of the above already, I just felt commited to the thread to sift out the garbage. And yes, arceus came before mew. You would know this from canalave library if you had bothered to spend 2 minutes reading when asked.
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Thankyou for Waker for saying most of the above already, I just felt commited to the thread to sift out the garbage. And yes, arceus came before mew. You would know this from canalave library if you had bothered to spend 2 minutes reading when asked.
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At the moment, I'm searching for Giratina. Turnback Cave is astounding. When you first enter, there's an inscription that reads as follows.

"...Past three pillars...to the sleeping...before 30 is surpassed..."

There appears to be more than three pillars here, each with two numbers. For example, the last one I came across before finding Giratina was this one.

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Perhaps this is part of Giratina's legend, a cryptic clue that leads not only to Giratina, but also to its history?
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Ah, the riddle of turnback cave is a large disappointment in my opinion, because i found out how it works. In relation to the inscription:
Past three pillars; The minimum amount you will pass. Do it in exactly three and you get the reaper cloth.
To the sleeping; Obviously referring to giratina.
Before 30 is surpassed; go through any more rooms than this and the game will literally turn you back, and you have to exit and starty again.

It reminded me of when you first discovered the brail leading to the regis, we got so excited and then realised it was just a fancy to-do list lol.

Still, there is literally no information anywhere as to giratina's purpose.
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Ah, the riddle of turnback cave is a large disappointment in my opinion, because i found out how it works. In relation to the inscription:
Past three pillars; The minimum amount you will pass. Do it in exactly three and you get the reaper cloth.
To the sleeping; Obviously referring to giratina.
Before 30 is surpassed; go through any more rooms than this and the game will literally turn you back, and you have to exit and starty again.

It reminded me of when you first discovered the brail leading to the regis, we got so excited and then realised it was just a fancy to-do list lol.

Still, there is literally no information anywhere as to giratina's purpose.
I already have a Reaper Cloth, so meh. Shadow Force looks great, though.

As for the "no information" bit, I'm not so sure. Did you read the inscription behind where Giratina was standing?

"This is... That where life sparkles... That where life has faded... A place where two worlds overlap..."

"That where life sparkles" refers to the dimension you're in, the dimension of the living. "That where life has faded" refers to the world that lies beyond Death's gate.

Therefore, "a place where two worlds overlap", where Giratina appears, is where life and death meet one another. This confirms that Giratina is the guardian who makes sure the dead remain dead, and the living don't die prematurely if possible.

If you read the first inscription again as you leave, it has a new quote.

"...Past three pillars...offer up...to the...before 30 is surpassed..."

I'm going to find out what this means now.
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AH i must have missed that one, good research.

People should learn from you lol.

But like i said, we have information but nothing concrete on his purpose. We know where he is, just not why.
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There appears to be more than three pillars here, each with two numbers. For example, the last one I came across before finding Giratina was this one.

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I found out what the numbers mean. The top number is which pillar you've found (never exceeds three). The bottom number is how many rooms you went through (always at least one) from the start or previous pillar, whichever was more recent, to get to this pillar.

I went through Turnback Cave again, and I got a Rare Bone.
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Oh yeah ii knew that, i just forgot cuz i got somethin crap (I just kept going up lol)
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I haven't really read the whole thing, but it just seems logic that Dialga and Palkia were the first ones to be, because they created time and space, then comes Arceus, with the world, and then the rest come along. It seems that gamefreak has put much science into the games, where with events, you can capture Deoxys and Jirachi with the Space Center, and different stuff like that. What I find most fascinating, is that you find Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia in the same place, Spear Pillar/Hall of Origin, where it's the same with Jirachi and Deoxys, just different events. Do you think gamefreak is going after something here? Also, in the games Crystal/Gold/Silver, when you go to the Kanto region, it seems there is a connection between R/S/E as well. Because, you can find new places which have never been there before (Groudon), Cinnabar Island sinking (Kyogre), and well, nothing really with Rayquaza, but it is interesting that they make it different where the regular (most of them) pokemon evolve, and that the legendaries don't. Just like Professor Rowan, I am diving into looking why the legendaries don't evolve. As I see it, in the games, people don't want ubers, but instead, they want the regular pokemon. I don't know if this has something to do with the fact that they're probably not real, but most likely that the others evolve, and also, I don't see the difference between ubers and regulars. Coincidentally, there are some pokemon that don't evolve, and yet they aren't legendaries! Who's stopping us from saying that they aren't legendaries? Just because there is only one of the pokemon in each game doesn't mean that it is a legendary. I mean, take Bigfoot for example. He's in the Himalayas, and in Washington's forests. Also, maybe legendaries aren't legendaries. I really don't see the difference between them and the regulars. They are still pokemon, and as long as they're pokemon, i'll believe that they aren't legendaries. In PC, take the former pokemon crater, for example. You have to beat all of the gymleaders and elites, just to catch a pokemon at a higher level. Really, they're just pokemon. With gamefreak, why make you complete almost all of the story, just to make you catch a pokemon people don't use.

All in all, I say this thing includes alot of science.
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Giratina @ No Item; Pressure
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IVs in order of HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed are as follows.

23-24/23-24/9/22/23-24/23-24

Should I try my luck getting a new Giratina by trading this one on the GTS, or should I try to recapture a new Giratina?

On topic, I still think that Giratina's the Pokécerberus (new words FTW).
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Waker of Chaos, you have nailed the Giratina part. It just seems to tricky with the

Past three pillars...offer up...to the...before 30 is surpassed.

I really don't get why gamefreak leaves out letters and numbers in stuff.
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Waker of Chaos, you have nailed the Giratina part. It just seems to tricky with the

Past three pillars...offer up...to the...before 30 is surpassed.

I really don't get why gamefreak leaves out letters and numbers in stuff.
I understand it perfectly. These are very ancient inscriptions, so time has eroded some of the text away.

What about the Giratina I captured? Throw it back and fish again, or keep it and hope the GTS has one with the right Nature and IVs? I want to EV train a Giratina, is why.

Lax is +Defense and -Special Defense, by the way.

Finally, your comment about Cinnabar Island reminded me how it sank. The volcano erupted, remember? And don't you find Entei in the game if your starter was Bulbasaur? Entei makes volcanoes erupt by barking, so even if you didn't start with Bulbasaur, the presence of a single legendary dog means all three exist, though only one appears to you. I don't think Kyogre had anything to do with it.
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I haven't really read the whole thing, but it just seems logic that Dialga and Palkia were the first ones to be, because they created time and space, then comes Arceus, with the world, and then the rest come along.
Nope. The meaning behind the 'chaos' described in the libarary is the lack of time, space or anything of substance. When the egg appeared out of nowhere it implies arceus was bron and then the story tells how he created D&P, thus eradicating the chaos
It seems that gamefreak has put much science into the games, where with events, you can capture Deoxys and Jirachi with the Space Center, and different stuff like that. What I find most fascinating, is that you find Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia in the same place, Spear Pillar/Hall of Origin, where it's the same with Jirachi and Deoxys, just different events. Do you think gamefreak is going after something here?
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Also, in the games Crystal/Gold/Silver, when you go to the Kanto region, it seems there is a connection between R/S/E as well. Because, you can find new places which have never been there before (Groudon), Cinnabar Island sinking (Kyogre), and well, nothing really with Rayquaza, but it is interesting that they make it different where the regular (most of them) pokemon evolve, and that the legendaries don't. Just like Professor Rowan, I am diving into looking why the legendaries don't evolve.
My guess is that they do't need to. They are perfectly suited to their jobs, their is no competition. According to darwin and most other theories on evolution, these are the only reasons somthing would evolve.
As I see it, in the games, people don't want ubers, but instead, they want the regular pokemon. I don't know if this has something to do with the fact that they're probably not real, but most likely that the others evolve, and also, I don't see the difference between ubers and regulars. Coincidentally, there are some pokemon that don't evolve, and yet they aren't legendaries! Who's stopping us from saying that they aren't legendaries?
The lack of godly power or overly-high strength. Dont forget we all thought elctabuzz and magmar were always gonna be 1-stage, 3 gens later and look whats here.
Just because there is only one of the pokemon in each game doesn't mean that it is a legendary. I mean, take Bigfoot for example. He's in the Himalayas, and in Washington's forests. Also, maybe legendaries aren't legendaries. I really don't see the difference between them and the regulars. They are still pokemon, and as long as they're pokemon, i'll believe that they aren't legendaries. In PC, take the former pokemon crater, for example. You have to beat all of the gymleaders and elites, just to catch a pokemon at a higher level. Really, they're just pokemon. With gamefreak, why make you complete almost all of the story, just to make you catch a pokemon people don't use.

All in all, I say this thing includes alot of science.

Yep, too much science for my head to shift through at this time of night. Some nice thoughts though.
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Something that I've been thinking for a while now is the whole Deoxys thing. It was said that Deoxys was created when a meteorite was exposed to a laser. The thing that bothers me about this is the interstellar virus thing. That got me to thinking that when all this creation was going on, there was some kind of sickness among the "creators". The fact that this virus came from a meteorite made me think that, maybe, just maybe, a piece of rock when Palkia created space broke off of a planet. This rock became contaminated with this epidemic going on and the meteor roamed around space. Millions of years later, the meteor crashed down on Earth where the humans discovered it and detected this virus which was preserved in the meteorite and didn't burn up in the atmosphere. Then by using this laser, the scientists tried to replicate the Pokemon DNA in the virus and ended up creating Deoxys. This may also explain Pokerus.

And about the post I made ages ago, its not from GameSpot or anything like that. I actually sat there and made that up.
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Something that I've been thinking for a while now is the whole Deoxys thing. It was said that Deoxys was created when a meteorite was exposed to a laser. The thing that bothers me about this is the interstellar virus thing. That got me to thinking that when all this creation was going on, there was some kind of sickness among the "creators". The fact that this virus came from a meteorite made me think that, maybe, just maybe, a piece of rock when Palkia created space broke off of a planet. This rock became contaminated with this epidemic going on and the meteor roamed around space. Millions of years later, the meteor crashed down on Earth where the humans discovered it and detected this virus which was preserved in the meteorite and didn't burn up in the atmosphere. Then by using this laser, the scientists tried to replicate the Pokemon DNA in the virus and ended up creating Deoxys. This may also explain Pokerus.

And about the post I made ages ago, its not from GameSpot or anything like that. I actually sat there and made that up.
This is viable. However, it seems more likely to me that the alien virus Deoxys was originally wasn't a sickness among the Pokégods, but a virus that infected an alien world. If you've watched Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, you can draw parallels to that from what I'm about to say, although Jenova from Final Fantasy VII may be better suited for this.

The alien virus could have originated from another planet that was destroyed by the virus. The meteorite carrying this virus that came to our planet was recognized as a threat by Rayquaza, but remember that there was a Deoxys who WASN'T exposed to any laser, unless you count Rayquaza's Hyper Beam (but Deoxys was already awake). The other Deoxys awoke from the meteorite from the laser, as you stated.

Now, we don't know the exact date of when the Deoxys Meteor hit, nor do we know the exact dates of when your adventure in ANY game takes place. We know only when you started playing Diamond/Pearl, and that does us no good for this purpose. Therefore, for all we know, the presence of Deoxys caused mutations in molecules in the air, allowing Pokémon to catch Pokérus.

Given the nature of Pokérus, the destroyed planet would have had to been inhabited by either those allergic to it, or those who got so much of a boost from it that they went both berserk and insane.
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This doesn't require science, just thinking. This are possible chains of Pkmn together that anyone would assume.
-Arceus=Mew
-Dialga=Celebi
-Celebi=Shaymin
-Palkia=Deoxys
-Groudon=Regigigas
-Kyogre=Manaphy
-Manaphy=Phione
-Regigigas=Regis
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