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Manphy,Okay, How could a Legendary pokemon just pop out of an egg present day if there is not more than one but the legend continues from long ago.Its like the lion being king of the jungle. Its hinted that it breeds on the anime. What you said about Lugia was stupid. Latias and Latios did have a father, It is just a rare species. Im sure that the original plot from gold and silver has been changed by Gamefreak because ash has seen many different Suicune and they never acted like "nice to see u again." Correct me if im wrong
What I said about Lugia was fact.

"Father" can have many meanings.

Game Freak changed nothing. Ash never had flashbacks about the other Suicunes and such because he didn't feel it was really necessary. The same goes for the writers.

You stand corrected.
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How is what you said about lugia true. On the show it was a mother child relationship
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How is what you said about lugia true. On the show it was a mother child relationship
So what? I have a father/son relationship with my GameCube.
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Thats funny! well i dont know its all confusing
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Thats funny! well i dont know its all confusing
My point is that just because one being parents another doesn't make them related by blood.

There is no proof whatsoever that Silver was born at all. We only know that Lugia was protecting and raising Silver. We never saw Lugia make love to a Ditto, and Silver hatch from the resulting Egg, mainly because this is impossible anyway.

Incidentally, your signature promotes Fire, yet you have the Rainbow Badge there. You get the Rainbow Badge from Erika, who uses Grass Pokémon.
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its not that wierd to have a relationship with systems my friend named her ds and... well that is wierd but father son isnt really.. i think
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its not that wierd to have a relationship with systems my friend named her ds and... well that is wierd but father son isnt really.. i think
It was really only a metaphor to communicate my point. I don't really have a father/son relationship with my GameCube... It would be hilarious if I did, though. :P

Your friend named her DS? Interesting. What did she call it, Two-Face? :P

I couldn't resist.

Anyway, to stay on topic, what legendary Pokémon may we see in the future? Cresselia is the Lunar Pokémon, so we'll probably see a Solar Pokémon as well. If/when we do, it'll probably be a Fire/Dragon Pokémon. They haven't done that combination yet, not counting Charizard (Fire/Flying).
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thats also funny. I love rainbows. anyway i guess i see your point but the way it seemed it truly was a mother child relationship. Maybe im the only one who noticed.
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thats also funny. I love rainbows. anyway i guess i see your point but the way it seemed it truly was a mother child relationship. Maybe im the only one who noticed.
It was a mother/child relationship. It's just that it can't be between a biological mother and her child, because Lugia cannot breed. Silver appeared through other means.
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huh i meant like what if.... how do you know it cant breed, dont give me that you cant do so in the game crud.
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huh i meant like what if.... how do you know it cant breed, dont give me that you cant do so in the game crud.
You can't do so in the game. This implies they can't do so in the wild, either.

I don't care if you call it crud, that's fact. There is no evidence whatsoever to support that any legendary Pokémon, save Manaphy, can breed. And Phione can't even evolve into Manaphy. However, the fact that we can't breed legendary Pokémon, save Manaphy, in the games serves as evidence that they can't breed at all.
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Alot of stuff happens on the show that you cannot do in any pokemon game. Ohh currently listening to Gimme more by Brittney Spears!
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Alot of stuff happens on the show that you cannot do in any pokemon game. Ohh currently listening to Gimme more by Brittney Spears!
The games are more consistent, and therefore more reliable, than the anime could ever be.

"LOL UR UZIN ONIX WELL ILL JUS USE MAH PIKACHUS THUNDERBOLT FOR THE WIN!!! AH HA HA HA HA HA UR A FLIPPIN NOOB!!!!111!!!1ONE!1!"

This is Ash on a bad day. And then he tries it.

Pikachu used Thunderbolt! It doesn't affect the foe's Onix...

Yeah. Nice use of Pikachu there. Very nice indeed. But in the anime, it works, which implies that Ash and his Pikachu are basically the gods of Pokémon. Uh huh. A human and his mouse. Whee.

No, the anime is ONLY reliable when the games don't even touch the subject, or when the anime supports what the games already set forth.

Ew, Brittany Spears. She has the initials B.S. for a reason.
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You are too funny! Oh and were you calling me a noob cause ive been into pokemon for good 9 years. Well you went really far back to prove me wrong this time. Pikachu did not affect onix until brocks father charged it.
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The games are more consistent, and therefore more reliable, than the anime could ever be.
Yeah! Im holding you to this now waker mwa ha ha!

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You are too funny! Oh and were you calling me a noob cause ive been into pokemon for good 9 years.
So? Ive been part of a tennis club for 6 years and Im still crap. noob is measured by mind not by duration.
Pikachu did not affect onix until brocks father charged it.
But it still affected a ground type, which goes agaisnst the laws of pokemon
Wow this thread is turning into an arguament between you 2. Im siding with Waker, he talks more sense.
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Yeah! Im holding you to this now waker mwa ha ha!

Get off my butt.

Wow this thread is turning into an arguament between you 2. Im siding with Waker, he talks more sense.
See? I'm smart. Gofre's smart. We know what we're talking about. You, quite clearly, don't.

I wasn't calling you a noob, but I have enough evidence to justify calling you one if I feel like it.
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Whatever i am so past this thread and the argument. Peace forever Waker, maybe one day we'll be friends
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Whatever i am so past this thread and the argument. Peace forever Waker, maybe one day we'll be friends
Doubtful. Very, very doubtful.

Anyway, I looked in the Pokédex again. Apparently, Darkrai is more active during the new moon. That's when the moon isn't shining at all, right? Cresselia is said to represent the crescent moon, so perhaps this can be seen as an analogy for Darkrai's Bad Dreams being lifted by Cresselia's Levitation? XD
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Are you holding a grudge on me from when i first entered the threads. well anywayz thats vert insightful.
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See? I'm smart. Gofre's smart. We know what we're talking about. You, quite clearly, don't.

I wasn't calling you a noob, but I have enough evidence to justify calling you one if I feel like it.
yea that really contributes to the thread. well done wake!
anyway, if you are going to look at legendaries, either you can choose to use the anime and their wacky antics, or you can only use the games as a reference. I prefer the latter. But who's to say, just because I cannot force a legendary Pokemon to get it on with a Ditto, that the legendary will not get pregnant on its own? Just because trainers are incapable of making the legendary breed, that does not necessarily mean that legendaries are unique, and that it may be possible for them to breed.
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Manphy,Okay, How could a Legendary pokemon just pop out of an egg present day if there is not more than one but the legend continues from long ago.
That's like asking... where did the chaos that Aruceus come from originated... from? These questions can't really be answered.

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Latias and Latios did have a father, It is just a rare species.
The one that gave it's life for Altomare may not necessarily be their father. Although, I do believe they can breed because they have genders.

Just rare? They do protect Altomare and do have a purpose, therefore making them not so just rare.

And please, cut Waker some slack. He's just disproving the points you made and making sure you didn't get it wrong. He has researched throughtly on this topic and I'm pretty sure he knows what he's going on about. He's just making sure we all get out pokéfacts right and we learn something.

I missed a page of this.. Ugh. Anyways, I also side with Waker. Not only is he my friend, but yeah, he speaks a bit more sense and has some proof to back up his explanations.
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That's like asking... where did the chaos that Aruceus come from originated... from? These questions can't really be answered.



The one that gave it's life for Altomare may not necessarily be their father. Although, I do believe they can breed because they have genders.

Just rare? They do protect Altomare and do have a purpose, therefore making them not so just rare.

And please, cut Waker some slack. He's just disproving the points you made and making sure you didn't get it wrong. He has researched throughtly on this topic and I'm pretty sure he knows what he's going on about. He's just making sure we all get out pokéfacts right and we learn something.

I missed a page of this.. Ugh. Anyways, I also side with Waker. Not only is he my friend, but yeah, he speaks a bit more sense and has some proof to back up his explanations.
I'd like to note Heatran also can be either male or female, but still can't breed. Nidorina and Nidoqueen can't breed either.

Most likely, as Pokémon evolved, some of them lost their ability to breed. And I don't mean the type of evolution we see in the games. This is why Latios, Latias, Heatran, and other legendary Pokémon (plus a few others) can't breed.
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Cats were supposed to be sacred in Egypt. Im comparing this to Latias and os
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But who's to say, just because I cannot force a legendary Pokemon to get it on with a Ditto, that the legendary will not get pregnant on its own? Just because trainers are incapable of making the legendary breed, that does not necessarily mean that legendaries are unique, and that it may be possible for them to breed.
But if they could breed in the wild, they'd do so in the Day Care as well without any hesitation.

Thanks to the games, and certain episodes/movies, we have evidence that Pokémon can breed. But as far as the legendary Pokémon are concerned (not including Manaphy), since we have no way to breed them in the games, we can safely assume that they can't breed at all.

The absolute closest the anime has ever come to legendary Pokémon being in a family was Silver and its mother Lugia. However, we never saw Silver's Egg. We never were told that Lugia could or could not breed in the anime. Silver was simply there.

As such, we have no evidence whatsoever to show that Lugia can breed, but we do have evidence (the games) that shows it cannot. As such, I'm certain Silver was born or created by other means, and that the Lugia in the anime who was taking care of Silver simply adopted it.

So, to answer your question, I guess I am to say that legendary Pokémon cannot breed, and I've even presented scientific, factual evidence.

As for cats in Egypt, there's no relation to Latios and Latias there. Try again, newbie (this name only means you're new).
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