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Old January 13th, 2008 (2:37 AM).
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Regigigas is HUGE. Bigger than any Wailord. That's why it has Slow Start. It has to shake off all that earth and everything before it can really battle.

Too bad "Turn Jump" is only for Yu-Gi-Oh!, eh?
No its not, Regigigas is only 12 foot tall while wailord is at least 40. Either way the point you made is correct: He's ancient and aging, dragging continents around is gonna do your back in. Besides have you seen his stats? I think it was a method of toning him down, its like uber version of slaking.
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No its not, Regigigas is only 12 foot tall while wailord is at least 40. Either way the point you made is correct: He's ancient and aging, dragging continents around is gonna do your back in. Besides have you seen his stats? I think it was a method of toning him down, its like uber version of slaking.
Whatever the size, we can't really pull the metagame into this. It has nothing to do with the legends, and won't affect them in any way, no matter what.
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Yeah but if we're involving their abilities then we're involving the metagame. I answered a strategy-based question with a strategy-based answer
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Yeah but if we're involving their abilities then we're involving the metagame.
Wrong. A Pokémon's Ability is basically just a trait they have. For example, why do you think only Porygon-Z gets Download or Adaptability? Why can't it get Levitate or Hyper Cutter?

Because it's not equipped to use them, as ridiculous as that may sound. I mean, look at it. It looks like it's supposed to float, right? But it doesn't. Earthquake still hits it.

By the same token, only Regigigas has Slow Start because it simply can't move very fast until it's used to moving.
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Mewtwo was cloned using Mew's Deoxyribonucleic acid. They altered Mew's DNA, i thinks. So when they altered it, they could accidentally destroyed a few chromosomes that affected Mewtwo's color. So the final result would be a different coloured mewtwo.

Maybe that explains shiny mewtwo's.
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I love that word, deoxyrybonucleic acid. I'm really quite strange lol.
Yeah sice DNA is biological matter it is capable of decomposing. Scientists are likely to have added several substances to stablize the DNA (Which obviously didnt work lol)

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i think its important to remember that this is all made up and there is no deeper meaning behind pokemon apart form fun
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Everything has a deep meaning within it, someone might of consciously created something, but it can have a subconscious meaning as well.

Like look at Alice in Wonder Land or The Matrix. It looks like a fairy tale or some Sci-fi adventure, But its actually has alot of philosophical meaning.
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i think its important to remember that this is all made up and there is no deeper meaning behind pokemon apart form fun
I think it's important to remember that you aren't always right. This is one of those times. Honestly, why would they be called "legendary Pokémon" if there weren't a deep meaning?
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Yes! the thread is reborn! A pity it got brought back up with a flame. A quote springs to mind: "He refused to be bored for he was not boring" If you cant find the good in something you're obviously a very negative peron.

Here's a religion/science question to get the thread back up to speed: Kyogre is known to expand the seas, but how does he do it? Can he physically create water, or does he somehow generate atmospeheric pressure to the extent the condensation occurs? Just a quick thought, because some people reckon these pokes are godly enough to create things, while some say that matter can not be created or destroyed, just converted. Im on the fence as this is a land where anything's possible, i just wanted other peoples views :)
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Yes! the thread is reborn! A pity it got brought back up with a flame. A quote springs to mind: "He refused to be bored for he was not boring" If you cant find the good in something you're obviously a very negative person.

Sorry about that. Also, guilty as charged.

Here's a religion/science question to get the thread back up to speed: Kyogre is known to expand the seas, but how does he do it? Can he physically create water, or does he somehow generate atmospeheric pressure to the extent the condensation occurs? Just a quick thought, because some people reckon these pokes are godly enough to create things, while some say that matter can not be created or destroyed, just converted. Im on the fence as this is a land where anything's possible, i just wanted other peoples views :)
I think the latter is the case. Kyogre most likely creates the pressure needed.
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Oh waker not you, i was talking about Lord nightmare. Ive just read his other posts, its comedy material. And yeah, thats what i thought. I just wanted some clarification. So as a generalisation, it seems to me that although most legendries have 'godly' abilities, they achieve them through processes that have some sort of scientific explaination. For example, Kyoger cause condensation and preciptiation while groudon causes evaporation, Zapdos lives in clouds and will therfore generate static, etc. Would you agree?
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Oh waker not you, i was talking about Lord nightmare. Ive just read his other posts, its comedy material. And yeah, thats what i thought. I just wanted some clarification. So as a generalisation, it seems to me that although most legendries have 'godly' abilities, they achieve them through processes that have some sort of scientific explaination. For example, Kyoger cause condensation and preciptiation while groudon causes evaporation, Zapdos lives in clouds and will therfore generate static, etc. Would you agree?
Yeah, I would. It's either that or they just go, "I WANT MORE STATIC HERE!"
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Yeah, that would be funny :) I suppose its a mixture of both. While zapdos is gonna get filled with static, living in thunderclouds, it woulod take some kind of divine power to allow it to be channeled.
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It's said Arceus made the world while science says Mew is the ancestor of most known Pokémon. It was said Latias had powers to become invisible while the Dex says it has the ability to cover itself in a glass-like thing that refracts light. And supposedly Dialga made time and Palkia made space, but they don't seem to be stronger than Mewtwo, for example. They're just legends that don't make sense.

Mewtwo is man made, so it could of been manufactured to be incredibly strong, its like natural selection.

Also, take the real world for example, just because some on created something, doesnt mean they are stronger to the majority of people. The man who discovered fire discovered it by accident science suggests, I bet any money there was some one at the time who was plenty stronger than him.

Man, this thread is 26 pages long about science in a fictional world jeez haha
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Mewtwo is man made, so it could of been manufactured to be incredibly strong, its like natural selection.
That has to be the most contradictory post ever. A natually selected artificially created pokemon? Thats impossible. The DNA was manipulated to how scientists wanted it, evolution payed no part
Also, take the real world for example, just because some on created something, doesnt mean they are stronger to the majority of people. The man who discovered fire discovered it by accident science suggests, I bet any money there was some one at the time who was plenty stronger than him.

Erm, Errr, Um...What? The man who discovered fire didnt create it. And what does strength have to do with anything?
That was kinda silly, really. Natural selection is organisms adapting to their enviroment, its the process of posetive mutations being retained.
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stop making no sense, what with your man-made fire and your naturally selected mewtwos, thread!
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Errr who was that aimed at? Is it aimed at the occasional giberish likeDemonmike said or the thread in general? Cause the majority of this thread is well argued theories
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spammers... i like this thread too, i post stuff
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That was kinda silly, really. Natural selection is organisms adapting to their enviroment, its the process of posetive mutations being retained.
I seemed to have had the wrong term in mind, I was thinking of selective breeding, my bad.

Also, I was addresing the Original poster about the stregnth thing, he originally stated that Mewto is stronger than Palkia and Dialga despite them creating space and time, i was merely using the easiest example I thought of.

Maybe you should pay more attention rather than picking sentances of mine to criticize. The Natural selection was my bad, wrong term.
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You forget that this site is over 4 months old, no-one refers back to the initial post anymore. And in answer to mewtwo being stronger, its because scientists exploited the DNA of a already-powerful pokemon.

You see what i did there? I said what i was replying to. Perhaps you should do the same, that way it doesnt look like you're spouting nonsense. So please dont get all high and mighty on me, even the person posting after me said how it made no sense.
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You forget that this site is over 4 months old, no-one refers back to the initial post anymore.
Um, excuse me. I do. Because to refer to recent posts would be seriously going off the topic at hand.


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The same can usually hold true for Anime too. Because if it couldn't, we wouldn't have much of a story, would we? Unless it's made by Gainax, which then we don't really know what's going on anyway.
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It's said Arceus made the world while science says Mew is the ancestor of most known Pokémon. It was said Latias had powers to become invisible while the Dex says it has the ability to cover itself in a glass-like thing that refracts light. And supposedly Dialga made time and Palkia made space, but they don't seem to be stronger than Mewtwo, for example. They're just legends that don't make sense.

Mewtwo is man made, so it could of been manufactured to be incredibly strong, its like natural selection.

Also, take the real world for example, just because some on created something, doesnt mean they are stronger to the majority of people. The man who discovered fire discovered it by accident science suggests, I bet any money there was some one at the time who was plenty stronger than him.

Man, this thread is 26 pages long about science in a fictional world jeez haha
Am i the only one getting this?

Arceus was born from an egg hence, that means big bang theory. He then created Dialgia and Palkia who then created time and space.

Millions of years pass, Mew forms.
Legiondaries evolve. (Kyogre, Groundon, Zapdos ex.)
Mew then becomes the prehistoric pokemon (Areodactyl, omynite ex.)
Then, current pokemon evolve
Trainers club pokemon to catch them and raise them
Humans battle with pokemon
Apricorns are made to catch pokemon
Gym leagues form
Elite four
Pokeball is invented
Masterball Invented

Did i miss anything?
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Am i the only one getting this?

Arceus was born from an egg hence, that means big bang theory. He then created Dialgia and Palkia who then created time and space.

Millions of years pass, Mew forms.
Legiondaries evolve. (Kyogre, Groundon, Zapdos ex.)
Mew then becomes the prehistoric pokemon (Areodactyl, omynite ex.)
Then, current pokemon evolve
Trainers club pokemon to catch them and raise them
Humans battle with pokemon
Apricorns are made to catch pokemon
Gym leagues form
Elite four
Pokeball is invented
Masterball Invented

Did i miss anything?
you mean like all the details about the pokemon and their evolution? considering you just say 'legendaries evolve', this is a terrible argument. If you come here with no backup to your theories, then forget posting here. Have some logic in ur arguments.
Also, having how trainers and the league for Pokemon trainers... this is not the place for such things. This is a 'legendary pokemon theory' thread.
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