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Old March 15th, 2008 (6:41 AM).
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I'll reply to that post when you punctuate it
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Old March 16th, 2008 (3:02 AM).
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I remember watching the fist ever episode of Pokémon to go in air on TV and the sec end i seen it i loved it but i always wondered why they never showed ho-oh until like YEARS after it first appeared the first few episodes where basically about ash becoming a Pokémon trainer to later find the legendary Pokémon ho-oh then all of a sudden they quit talking about it and the story went into a complete different direction meaning that thy are probley making every episode and game as they go and the people who make Pokémon them self don't know what/when the ending will be so maybe them ended messing something up there are till lots of secrets in Pokémon we don't know about yet maybe Pokémon will never end
It because that the Ho-Oh that they showed in the first episode was like a... prototype. They prolly had the main ideas around the second generation and put it in to give the watchers something to look foward to. It's nothing to get frustrated about, it was before the second generation even came out and they prolly wanted to change a lot of ideas and such around Ho-Oh. I think someone commented on earlier that Ho-Oh was actually... couldn't roam around because of something else of other. I can't exactly remember... but yeah, cut them some slack, they gave a massive sneak peak in the first episode and then wanted to change the storyline.

Besides, they prolly couldn't see it again, know how rare a Ho-Oh is?

It would be very nice if you could put some grammer into your posts, making them easier to read. Thanks very much.
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Considering the Dialga/Palkia event at the Spear Pillar, I would say that the Pokemon legends are true. Remember, it's a fantasy world. It doesn't have to be at all like our world.
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That kinda goes without saying. The title is suprisingly irrelevant if you read through it. This thread is more about establishing connections between the legendries and debating on other facts, like what is the pokemon story of creation? And while we know that its not real, there are some suprising links to religion, if you read back over the thread
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Old March 19th, 2008 (12:39 PM).
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Pearl pokedex says thta Lugia can bring about a 40 day storm if I remember rightly
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Yeah, and??? Randomly stating pokedex entires really isnt helpful is it?
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Yeah, and??? Randomly stating pokedex entires really isnt helpful is it?
I do respect your opinon, Gofre, but you could be a little less ruder. I think maybe Sean just wants to start a conversation about it.

I've actually never heard that before, but I don't own a Lugia, except on Silver.
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Meh, fair enough. Just annoys me when people post things with little relevance and even less insight. If he'd have asked a question about it then i could see he was being inquisitive, but all he did was regurgitate a Dex entry.

Anywayz, does anyone think the 3 birds are significant? Or are they just dying species? On one hand they have quite supernatural abilities, but they seem to hold little or no status amongst the legendries. They even have a glorified babysitter.

I also have reason to believe that they are, in fact, remenants of a species, but there are multiples. Moltres as an example. In the 1st gen, moltres inhabited cinibar mansion, and it apparently left after the volcano destroyed the island in the 2nd gen. In 3rd gen it is seen in another cave. What srtrikes me as odd is that oltres heals itself by immersing itself in lava, so would not fear it. It therefore strikes me as odd that it would move. Is the one in the sevii islands a different moltres?

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I think it is. Also, the moltres in XD is shadow as well as being in a seperate region, so this would be a different legendary as well. Another Moltres hatches from an egg emersed in lava in pkmn snap. In this all the legendary birds hatch from eggs, proving that they must have been born from another of their species. I believe the birds also appear in pokémon mystery dungeon and ranger. I believe that the birds are rare pokemon that share a common ancestor (this explains the similarities). I also believe this is true of the three dogs as they can also be caught in several regions.
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based on the other posts, would it be safe to say that maybe the pokemon world is based on the greek gods all together? cuz arceus could be like zeus, giratina could be like hades, and kyogre, manaphy or lugia could be posiden?

also, even some legendaries have at least some breeding capabilies. even if pokemon dont have genders, they can still breed (not in the game, but logically) moltres, articuno and zapdos have to be able to have eggs.
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I think we've covered this before too.

It seems that, logically, there are more than one Legendary Pokémon, they are just seen ever so rarely. If there was only one, who would take over the role of the (for example) Lugia, when it was caught? They have to have some way to have offspring, whether it be an egg or some way to duplicate themselves. Or maybe something like the way some animals can change their gender when there are none of the gender left, legendaries might have the ability to produce offspring when the time is needed.
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arceus is the "higher being"
he then made diagla & palkia (the universe) and then sent them to another diemision (maybe where he comes from?, Giratina already resides here)
mew was then created and from him arceus made the other pokemon ( like how eve was made from adam)
to give "life" to everyone he made mesprite azelf & uxie (knowledge will emotion)
Groudon Kyogre Rayquaza are made to make the air land and water
Legendary Birds, dogs, regi's Latios and Latias etc are only guardians/ protecters there to make sure ntohing goes out of wack
moltres articuno zapdoes "guard" fire ice electricity
Suicune, Entei, and Raikou."guard" wind, storm and calm
luiga is guardian of the ocean and ho oh is the of the sky
regis you should know what they protect!!
[email protected] protect alto mare
deoxys is just a alien
Darkrai & Cresselia yin and yang of dreams
Celebi forest
they are more elementals then anything ...
i do not think they breed *but* when willingly captured ( by a trainer they deem worthy) or grow old they reduplicate
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arceus is the "higher being"
he then made diagla & palkia (the universe) and then sent them to another diemision (maybe where he comes from?, Giratina already resides here)
mew was then created and from him arceus made the other pokemon ( like how eve was made from adam)
to give "life" to everyone he made mesprite azelf & uxie (knowledge will emotion)
Groudon Kyogre Rayquaza are made to make the air land and water
Legendary Birds, dogs, regi's Latios and Latias etc are only guardians/ protecters there to make sure ntohing goes out of wack
moltres articuno zapdoes "guard" fire ice electricity
Suicune, Entei, and Raikou."guard" wind, storm and calm
luiga is guardian of the ocean and ho oh is the of the sky
regis you should know what they protect!!
[email protected] protect alto mare
deoxys is just a alien
Darkrai & Cresselia yin and yang of dreams
Celebi forest
they are more elementals then anything ...
i do not think they breed *but* when willingly captured ( by a trainer they deem worthy) or grow old they reduplicate
All of this was already covered in greater detail than you by Waker of Chaos.
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All of this was already covered in greater detail than you by Waker of Chaos.
I covered it before waker, and someone else covered it before me. The creation story was established by a number of contributors, but that's not the point. While most of this version correct, there are some mistakes:
The 3 birds/Dogs are not really legendries, but just members of dying species.
The 3 regis are not protectors of anything, they are just embodiments of particular elemts.
Celebi is NOT the guardian of the forest. It is stated in the pokedex entries it runs away from conflict and its only connection is typing
Rayquaza does not make air, it guards the earth and babysits K&G
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opps i got distracted when writing it and i was suppose to put the regi's are golems

from wikipedia "It is the known as the guardian of the forest, where it is worshiped as a god" celebi being a guardian of forests would kinda explain the shrine to it in ilexi forest

the dogs were three pokemon killed in te fire at the tower ... ho oh brought them back to life... what could of happened was ho oh returned them to life as three new species... ok they might not guard those things *but* they do embody them

the birds may not guard either but as with the dogs they do embody them

and now i think of it i agree with you on the rayquaza thing
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I covered it before waker, and someone else covered it before me. The creation story was established by a number of contributors
Yeah, but I think Waker of Chaos went into the most detail, leaving out only Manaphy and Phione, and they aren't really that special.

Anyway, how about a new discussion? It's been revealed that Giratina has an alternate form.
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his other form is more serpent like and he uses it to travel between diemisions =)
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Waker's post was extremely helpful. If anyone needs to catch up onnit, view it HERE. It is extremely informative and can clear most arguments here.

Seems like a cool form, no? It really raises the question also:

Will there be other forms to other legendaries?
Well, if anything, maybe one to the opposite of Giratina. It's highly unlikely that they will add extra forms to anything older than 2nd generation, although, if they wanted to add more excitement and suspence, that's certainly one way to do it.
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i think (on the lengendaries that seem to have more then one) they should add regional differences... (this is example only and does not say that there is one of these is this region but)... a kanto mew might havea longer tail than a hoenn mew ... sometihng like that =)
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i think (on the lengendaries that seem to have more then one) they should add regional differences... (this is example only and does not say that there is one of these is this region but)... a kanto mew might havea longer tail than a hoenn mew ... sometihng like that =)
They did do that in the anime, so it is a possibility for the video games...
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they did ? haha cool ... but i would rather them personalizing the pokemon i.e like they did with with spinda .... cos *sighs* hardly any animals are identical....
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and there is a church in the game... back in 1999 i already read somewhere that the creator of pokemon is some occult bug collector. the game is evil. go mike huckabee!
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and there is a church in the game... back in 1999 i already read somewhere that the creator of pokemon is some occult bug collector. the game is evil. go mike huckabee!
...What the heck is this? This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, not to mention it's extremely misguided.
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I believe that was just spam... But yes, there is a church of somesort in Diamond and Pearl. But I think everyone's figured that out by now.
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well no, not spam. but to understand the legends in the game you might want to check out japanese myths and beliefs.
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