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Old November 8th, 2007 (4:41 PM).
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which physical sweeper should i use in my team?
Im trying to decide between these three

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Jolly
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Thunder Punch
EQ

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Adamant
EVs: 252 atk, 252spd, 6 hp
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge
Cruch/Fire Fang/AA

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Adamant
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Brick Break
AA

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Old November 8th, 2007 (4:52 PM).
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Overall DDnite, since its one of the physical attackers that can actually take a hit.

btw CBmence > DDmence

Outrage sucks. It traps Dragonite on the field and lets a pokemon like Skarmory, Steelix, or another physical wall that resists Dragon attacks and takes it down. For instance, Dragonite uses Outrage. And then, before you know it, you have Skarmory setting up Spikes and Whirlwinding you away. Outrage = fail
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Old November 8th, 2007 (4:52 PM).
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well it would help us more if we knew your WHOLE team.Then we would know which you dont need and which you do need.Like types moves etc....
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Overall DDnite, since its one of the physical attackers that can actually take a hit.

btw CBmence > DDmence

Outrage sucks. It traps Dragonite on the field and lets a pokemon like Skarmory, Steelix, or another physical wall that resists Dragon attacks and takes it down. For instance, Dragonite uses Outrage. And then, before you know it, you have Skarmory setting up Spikes and Whirlwinding you away. Outrage = fail
what do you suggest instead then
what does a CBmence look like?
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Old November 8th, 2007 (4:58 PM).
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The purpose of Outrage is for late game sweeping, as soon as all of the Steel-Types are eliminated. After that, nothing can really stand up to a DD'd Outrage.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (4:59 PM).
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so u think i should go with ddnite?
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Overall DDnite, since its one of the physical attackers that can actually take a hit.
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- Stone Edge
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err... something like that... I think i have memory loss.

But I'd use Dragonite > Salamence since Salamence can't outrun everything it finds. And Dragonite can withstand a hit
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:42 PM).
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Dragonite @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Jolly
58 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spd
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Dance

Get DD and Outrage going and your opponent will be having nightmares


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Adamant
252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Stone Edge
-Crunch / Earthquake (your choice both doesn't matter)

Common DDmence build


Weavile @ Focus Sash <--SD self explanatory
Jolly
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
-Night Slash / Pursuit
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Swords Dance

Im in love with this Weavile set
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hmmmm im trying to decide between DD Dragonite and Weavile
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:43 PM).
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Use Weavile so I can destroy you in combat >.>


Any you'd like, Weavile is pretty good with it's 125 Spd, that's what I recommend ^^ (No, not because of the reason above)
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:45 PM).
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hmm i dont know, azonic was pretty convincing. who could take a hit better, nite or weavile?
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DDnite isnt the best sweeper as you might know, since Dragonite has average speed, but my Weavile has slaughtered countless Pokes
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:47 PM).
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aaaargh its soooo hard to choose >.<
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Weavile is usually to surprise your opponents, you shouldn't send it out early, send out only when you've wore your opponent down

DDnite is hard to set up, with all the Focus Sash abusers, its not too safe for him
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I wouldn't use Nite since he has unreliable speed, Mence is better as a lead IMO but again that's just a one mans opinion
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i still dont know who to pick >.>
now my brain hurts
theres too many pros and cons to all these pokes
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Mence Leads are now 100% countered by standard Weavile/Gengar leads, which is why I scarf my mence
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:50 PM).
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darn it
uummm still have no idea >.<
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Mence Leads are now 100% countered by standard Weavile/Gengar leads, which is why I scarf my mence
Scarf hmm not a bad idea, go with Names idea hey Mario, oh right Specsmence are usually more deadly that DDmence if you play your cards right
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Weavile, for the 100th time, THE VILE BLACK THINGY! It is the small, black Pokemon that is Dark/Ice type, and it has a W in the start of it's name. It also has sharp claws and the colors of this Pokemon is Red, Black, White basically. It also has 120 atk and 125 spd. Specific enough for you? D:

EDIT: It's a weasel of evil? XDDD
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Depends whether your team has a good ice or fighting resistance (Mind you if you have a ghost type, that gives you a fighting immunity)

But yeah, It would depend on your other team mates whether you can afford to have a 4x weak to ice, or a 4x to fighting
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:55 PM).
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Weavile, you know how much it powns dude. Took done your DDnite AND Vire?? Well not really but still. And It depends if your team is in need of more bulk.
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okay then i shall go with a weavile

Weavile @ Focus Sash
Jolly/Adamant <-------which one
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Arial Ace

that look good?
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Sir, replace Aerial Ace (if you don't have a Heracross counter, keep Aerial Ace) with Ice Shard/Pursuit
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:00 PM).
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Ok lets just conclude this case alright? all 3 of those options have weak defense anyways, take out Nite cause he's an unreliable sweeper with such moderate speed (flame me all you guys want I don't care I hate Dragonite period), go with Weavile if you want fast midgame sweep or Mence if you prefer a sort of safer early sweeping. -__-
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