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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:01 PM).
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Need you too rate these and help me with movesets and ev/iv's please
Need to replace surf on dragonite

Dragonite lvl 100 @ Adamant Orb Inner Focus
Gentle Nature
316 attack
204 defence
258 sp atk
272 sp def
176 speed
Surf
Blizzard
Hyper Beam
Dragon Pulse

Thinking of replacing blizzard with DD



Gengar lvl 73 @ Spell Tag Levitate
Modest nature
126 Attack
121 defense
240 Sp Atk
126 Sp Def
210 Speed
Dark Pulse
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

Dont think this moveset needs changing as it has a good type coverage
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:03 PM).
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Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball on the same move set are redundant. Scrap Dark Pulse and Sludge Bomb for Hypnosis and Focus Blast. THAT has better coverage.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:13 PM).
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thanks
can focus blast and hypnosis be obtained through tms if so where can you get thm
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:13 PM).
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After looking at those movesets, I can only say one thing. If I wake up blind tomorrow, DO NOT be surprised.

First of all, why is Dragonite carrying an Adamant Orb? That gives no benefit to Dragonite whatsoever. And Blizzard on Dragonite? WTF? It has 70 Accuracy! That is a big fat NO... well technically, this is a big fat no - NO. <.<;

And Hyperbeam!? Hyperbeam is one of the WORST moves ever. It traps the user on the field and only does 75 damage a turn. Don't Use, please.

You can start by posting EVs instead of your Pokemon Stats. Its less confusing.

And one more thing : fuhgohwogheuwhoghoewhoghwo!!!

Items like Spell Tag and Mystic Water are NEVER to be used! They only provide a 10% boost.

Now for the pokemon:

Gengar@Life Orb / Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
Evs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Shadowball
- Thunderbolt
- Hypnosis
- Focus Blast

Dragonite@Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 228 SDefense / 28 Speed
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:23 PM).
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Easy former Pal of Penguin with 6, you could cause something bad to happen =O

Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Choice Scarf/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
Trait : Levitate
Nature : Timid
EV's : 4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
Moves :
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt / Thunder
- Shadow Ball / HP Ice
- Hypnosis / HP Ice / Shadow Ball

Only if someone else can use Hypnosis on your team.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:30 PM).
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On a serious note, I would re breed the pokermon so they can be perfected.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:36 PM).
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After looking at those movesets, I can only say one thing. If I wake up blind tomorrow, DO NOT be surprised.

First of all, why is Dragonite carrying an Adamant Orb? That gives no benefit to Dragonite whatsoever. And Blizzard on Dragonite? WTF? It has 70 Accuracy! That is a big fat NO... well technically, this is a big fat no - NO. <.<;

And Hyperbeam!? Hyperbeam is one of the WORST moves ever. It traps the user on the field and only does 75 damage a turn. Don't Use, please.

You can start by posting EVs instead of your Pokemon Stats. Its less confusing.

And one more thing : fuhgohwogheuwhoghoewhoghwo!!!

Items like Spell Tag and Mystic Water are NEVER to be used! They only provide a 10% boost.

Now for the pokemon:

Gengar@Life Orb / Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
Evs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Shadowball
- Thunderbolt
- Hypnosis
- Focus Blast

Dragonite@Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 228 SDefense / 28 Speed
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
i knew they were bad thats why i posted them here no need to have a rant
thanks for the advice how do you check evs
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:36 PM).
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Lead Gengar

[email protected] Sash
Timid
4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- HP Ice
- Hypnosis / Shadow Ball

OR


Your common Gengar build

[email protected] Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
Timid
4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
- Focus Blast / Energy Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis / HP Ice

If you like your Focus Blast + Hypnosis support always equip Gengar with Wide Lens


And will Dragonite be a mixed / physical sweeper?
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Old November 8th, 2007 (5:38 PM). Edited November 8th, 2007 by county1883.
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On a serious note, I would re breed the pokermon so they can be perfected.
I will breed them again just want to keep them for now
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Lead Gengar

[email protected] Sash
Timid
4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- HP Ice
- Hypnosis / Shadow Ball

OR


Your common Gengar build

[email protected] Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
Timid
4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
- Focus Blast / Energy Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hypnosis / HP Ice

If you like your Focus Blast + Hypnosis support always equip Gengar with Wide Lens


And will Dragonite be a mixed / physical sweeper?
Thanks
and the Dragonite will probs be a mixed sweeper
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:07 PM).
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There are MUCH better mixed sweepers than Dragonite, Infernape, Lucario. DDnite should just be physical.
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:10 PM).
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There are MUCH better mixed sweepers than Dragonite, Infernape, Lucario. DDnite should just be physical.
Omg what? Name one mixed sweeper better than what you've mentioned >=(
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:12 PM).
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There are MUCH better mixed sweepers than Dragonite, Infernape, Lucario. DDnite should just be physical.
Lolzor, those guys are pretty decent alright, Infernape and Lucario are my fav mixed sweepers..
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:12 PM).
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Then Nape or Lucario? Sure, Vire can do it. And they ARE the best mixed around.
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No, Infernape is THE best Mixed Sweeper, it already has it's speed set up automatically, plus large coverage. Electivire is next to Inferanpe I would say
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:40 PM).
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Dragonite should only be mixed with a Lonely Nature and Fire Blast, otherwise keep it Physical
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Old November 8th, 2007 (6:59 PM).
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DDnite is best physical...I've ran about every randition possible of dragonite since the days of red and blue (those sucked though, *sob*)

Dragonite @ Yache Berry / Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch

Has worked best for me...
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DDnite is best physical...I've ran about every randition possible of dragonite since the days of red and blue (those sucked though, *sob*)

Dragonite @ Yache Berry / Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage / Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch

Has worked best for me...
Outrage fails . . . explained in another thread.

Dragon Claw > Outrage
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Old November 8th, 2007 (7:17 PM).
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Outrage fails . . . explained in another thread.

Dragon Claw > Outrage
lol no. You might wanna see my response to that other thread. You scout for skarm and physical wallers (most effective with a magnezone on your team) and then wipe the floor. you obviously haven't seen outrgae in the hands of somebody who can use it :0
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