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Old August 8th, 2008 (7:43 AM).
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So Ice Shard isn't that neaded?
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So Ice Shard isn't that neaded?
Well, it depends. If you want some more power, you may go with Ice Punch, but beware that now Dragon-types with a Dragon Dance or two can outspeed and KO you first. Ice Shard, on the other hand, gives less power but KOs all the aforementioned Dragons no matter how many DDs they have, unless they hold a Yache Berry.
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It should only ever be Ice Shard or Ice punch, both leaves steels laughing in your face. Brick break for the last slot.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (7:52 AM).
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Is Pursuit a must on Weavile?
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Old August 8th, 2008 (7:54 AM).
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Is Pursuit a must on Weavile?
Yes, it kills off fleeing Psychic-types and Ghost-types, which are very common if they see Weavile.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (7:56 AM).
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Is Pursuit a must on Weavile?
Depends. Night Slash is better though, but that's a different story.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (8:39 AM).
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Is day care rearing hindering to a Pokemon's stats in any way?

I realise the move teaching thing is a pain in the arse, but any other disadvantages...?
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Old August 8th, 2008 (9:30 AM).
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Outside of having new moves overwritten? No, there aren't any real downsides. Pokemon in the day care don't gain EVs, but that's not really a 'down' side, per se. :|
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Old August 8th, 2008 (5:07 PM).
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Two Questions.
How long does it take for a thread to be approved.
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If not approved, do I get told its not approved?
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Old August 8th, 2008 (5:36 PM).
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Two Questions.
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I'm asking myself the same question right now.
It's been nearly a day and it still hasn't gotten approved >_>
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Well it depends when a Mod is online so it can vary greatly!
And if your thread is not approved, I do not believe you get any warning.
I think that if it has been a week, make a new thread and hope it gets approved.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (5:57 PM).
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I'm asking myself the same question right now.
It's been nearly a day and it still hasn't gotten approved >_>
Same here.
I followed the proper format.
The only thing I'm unsure of is that I added alternative pokemon.
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Old August 9th, 2008 (4:10 AM).
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Same here.
I followed the proper format.
The only thing I'm unsure of is that I added alternative pokemon.
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and/ heres my question which chansey should i keep?
all calm..
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31/9/9/28/29/18 <--this one is currently breeding my next generation
19/29/29/31/28/18
19/29/9/29/29/19
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Old August 9th, 2008 (4:21 AM).
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Same here.
I followed the proper format.
The only thing I'm unsure of is that I added alternative pokemon.
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Keep in mind that the Mods are busy. Also, there are only 2 Mods for S&M now. D_A lives in a different time zone, so it may take a while.

If it follows the correct format, you should be ok, otherwise, PM a responsible member (you don't have to nag a mod) to show them the RMT if you suspect an issue.
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Old August 9th, 2008 (4:41 AM).
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I have a quick question to ask here
I currently run a SandStorm team on Shoddy.
So will all of my pokes get the 50% increase on Sp.Def(them being Ttar, Cradily, Garchomp, Skarmory, bronzong, and Foretress)
So if my Bronzong had 300 Sp.Def, will it get boosted to 450 Sp.Def?
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Old August 9th, 2008 (4:51 AM).
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Only pokemon with a Rock typing get the boost. So Tyranitar and Cradily would receive the boost, but the others won't.

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Old August 9th, 2008 (8:46 AM).
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and/ heres my question which chansey should i keep?
all calm..
19/29/9/29/31/19
31/9/9/28/29/18 <--this one is currently breeding my next generation
19/29/29/31/28/18
19/29/9/29/29/19
I'm liking this one the best. It's got a high Def, SDef, and even SAtk. I would shoot for a bit higher HP, though.
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Old August 9th, 2008 (11:01 AM). Edited August 9th, 2008 by (Dusty<3).
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I'm starting a new game on my Ruby and was wondering if I could get some help on building an ALL WATER team. I know it's not good to have only one type but I'm doing this for fun! =3
I was thinking maybe:

Pelipper:
Ice Beam
Wing Attack
Steel Wing
Shock Wave

Wiscash:
Amnesia
Waterfall
Fissure
Toxic

Lanturn:
Charge
Thunderbolt
Dive
Ice Beam

I can't decide on my final 3 pokemon. I chose not to go with Swampert. So I'm thinking maybe Seaking. I also want at least 2 normal types. Not including Slaking.

If anyone knows how to make this team better *with moves or different pokemon* Please lend any advice you may have!
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Old August 9th, 2008 (5:35 PM).
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Only pokemon with a Rock typing get the boost. So Tyranitar and Cradily would receive the boost, but the others won't.

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Ohhh
O.K.
Thanks, I always thought it was rock, steel, and ground.
But turns out it's only rock.
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Old August 9th, 2008 (7:59 PM).
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Ok my Gengar has this moveset.

Shadow Ball
Dark Pulse
Rest
Sleep Talk

I thought it was a pretty good moveset when I 2HKO'd three of my friends pokemon before being taken down. But when I played WiFi, my Gengar was slower then everything and occassionally got 1hko'D. This means that Rest has become somewhat, useless to me. Do you think I should keep Rest and Sleep Talk, or replace them with something else. Please don't say subsitute because, I really don't see the point of stalling your opponent.


Now the second problem is whether or not I should have Shadow Ball or Shadow Claw. They both have 100 Acc. Shadow Ball does 80 Dmg and Shadow Claw deals 70 Dmg. The reason I am debating this is because Shadow Claw is a faster move than Shadow Ball and it has a high critical-hit ratio.

Your thoughts?
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Old August 9th, 2008 (8:06 PM).
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Shadow Claw and Shadow Ball have the same speed priority, the reason you probably think it is faster is because a faster pokemon used Shadow Claw.

Also Gengar should never carry Shadow Claw over Shadow Ball, as it's attack is inferior, and as such, Shadow Claw is a physical move (working off attack stat) and Shadow Ball is a special move (working off special stat)

As for WiFi, Gengar normally dies in one hit, so Rest + Sleep Talk isn't a good idea to begin with, and you were probably horribly outspeed due to the fact that you probably haven't EV trained your Gengar.

As such, check http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123757 for all information on EVs and IVs and such to make your pokemon better

Anyway a good Gengar moveset is this

[email protected] Lens/Life Orb
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt/Energy Ball
-Hypnosis
-Focus Blast

Covers alot of ground, one of the standard Gengar sets, or if you prefer pure power

[email protected] Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Energy Ball
-Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Fight)

Choice Specs gives his special attack a 1.5x boost, but limits you to one attack before switching out

P. S. Saying you don't like stalling an opponent, yet using a Sleep Talker is a bit ironic
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Old August 9th, 2008 (8:09 PM).
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What he said. it's also good to check his stats, moves and experiment w/ whats he's got. who knows you might get a gengar you like.
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I really do not see how Sleep Talk and Substitute can be put in the same category. I use Sleep Talk as a combo with Rest so I am not completely open while I am asleep. I use it to KO my opponents rather than just piss them off.

But are you sure I should get rid of Dark Pulse? It is good when fighting Ghost or Psychic types.

Btw, can anybody spare me a Heart Scale so I can relearn Hypnosis?

EDIT: It is midnight here and I am extremely damn tired. I probably won't post back here again so just PM me if you can spare me a Heart Scale. Thanks for all of your help. Goodnight!

- Matt
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Old August 9th, 2008 (9:07 PM).
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My Gengar:
@Choice Specs
Timid nature
6 EV HP/252 Spe/252 SpA
~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
It's "only" at Lv 80 now, but it's done with EVs a long time ago. It's SpA and Spe just keep rising insanely.
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Old August 9th, 2008 (9:15 PM).
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I really do not see how Sleep Talk and Substitute can be put in the same category. I use Sleep Talk as a combo with Rest so I am not completely open while I am asleep. I use it to KO my opponents rather than just piss them off.

But are you sure I should get rid of Dark Pulse? It is good when fighting Ghost or Psychic types.

Btw, can anybody spare me a Heart Scale so I can relearn Hypnosis?

EDIT: It is midnight here and I am extremely damn tired. I probably won't post back here again so just PM me if you can spare me a Heart Scale. Thanks for all of your help. Goodnight!

- Matt
Rest + Sleep Talk keeps your pokemon healthy, therefore forcing your opponent to attack you more, thus stalling them out.

Dark Pulse is stupid on a pokemon that can learn a STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus) Shadow Ball as they cover the same thing, Psychic and Ghost types, the only real difference is one hits harder on fighting types and one is resisted by normal types.
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