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Old August 31st, 2008 (2:53 AM).
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B]thanx.i think my moveset would win quite alot
Eh. Not in competitive, but meh.
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is this a good 1 for staraptor
aerial ace
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is this a good 1 for staraptor
aerial ace
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Lol. If you're using this for competitive, no. But I assume we're still talking about In-game so uhh...

In-game: Yes, because you can still pwn everything with it. D: Competitive: No, because Fly takes two turns to use and they can switch out on the second turn. Brave Bird >> AA. And Staraptor has better things to do than Steel Wing stuff.
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whats a good pokemon in the battle tower im using gengar and garchomp need a third
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Old August 31st, 2008 (3:14 AM).
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whats a good pokemon in the battle tower im using gengar and garchomp need a third
Well, tbh, if you want a wall like Blissey or something, go with that. Otherwise, if you want full offensive I'd go [email protected]! Gyarados or whatever.
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Well it is in-game so honestly you could use nearly any Pokemon. But try to fill your weakneses up and get some strong attackers.
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i use the battle rev electivire as it nos ice punch to kill ground types and it nos cross chop,thunder punch and earth quake
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i use the battle rev electivire as it nos ice punch to kill ground types and it nos cross chop,thunder punch and earth quake
Meh. Failvire gets walled badly imo; even with Screech in its moveset.
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Lol. If you're using this for competitive, no. But I assume we're still talking about In-game so uhh...

In-game: Yes, because you can still pwn everything with it. D: Competitive: No, because Fly takes two turns to use and they can switch out on the second turn. Brave Bird >> AA. And Staraptor has better things to do than Steel Wing stuff.
the reason i teach staraptor fly is so i can fly to citys.i wood replace it with U-turn

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whats a good pokemon in the battle tower im using gengar and garchomp need a third
i used the battle rev electiver as it os thunder punch,ice punch,earthquake and cross chop.or use lapras,i do and mine nos thunder,hydro pump,surf and ice beam,my lapras has 210hp at lvl 50
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the reason i teach staraptor fly is so i can fly to citys.i wood replace it with U-turn



i used the battle rev electiver as it os thunder punch,ice punch,earthquake and cross chop.or use lapras,i do and mine nos thunder,hydro pump,surf and ice beam,my lapras has 210hp at lvl 50
(Yeah, this is In-game.) =p

Anyway, I just read that, and Base stats doesn't matter, also. Electrivire can't do jack to pretty much anything.
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yes it can.sorry the first post didnt come up on my pc.electivire can use earthquake and crooss chop to kll rhypo,thunder punch to kill milotic and icepunch to kill dragonite
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yes it can.sorry the first post didnt come up on my pc.electivire can use earthquake and crooss chop to kll rhypo,thunder punch to kill milotic and icepunch to kill dragonite
1.) Rhypo is bulky (not a wall, though) so it can survive Cross Chop.
2.) Milotic is a wall and Bold is also a benefit.
3.) Yache Berry.
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yeh but what if cross chops high critical hit rate kics in.lapras can kill a slightly weakend milotic
and giv electy nevermeltice or icicle plate and ice punch should kill dragonit
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yeh but what if cross chops high critical hit rate kics in.lapras can kill a slightly weakend milotic
and giv electy nevermeltice or icicle plate and ice punch should kill dragonit
=/ No. Those items aren't even used In-game iirc. o_o; Yeah, Critical Hits kinda will ko it, but it doesn't always happen. =)
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i use the plates as they boost damage from curtain attacks
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i use the plates as they boost damage from curtain attacks
20%, which kinda isn't that much. Leftovers or something is better than the plate items.
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so its still 20%.giv electa scopelens to boost cross chops effect
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so its still 20%.giv electa scopelens to boost cross chops effect
Hax item in competitive and there's still pretty much nobody who uses Scope Lens in-game.

On the 20% "debate," I'll leave it to someone else since I've stayed up since 2AM and I can't remember why you don't use those somewhat... =p
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i use the scope lens in game.anyway just because no body really uses an item dosnt mean that its rubbsquash.and items r good for different situations
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The boost only applies to one move, and not to mention Expert Belt gives a 20% increase for all moves while Life Orb gives a 30% increase. These items are only applicable when the pokemon only has one move to attack with, and does not need Leftovers and would not appreciate Life Orb's recoil, e.g. Venomoth @ Bug Plate, Toxic Spikes / Sleep Powder / Bug Buzz / Baton Pass.

Next would be again pokemon not wanting Life Orb's recoil but needs the 20% to KO targets as opposed to the 10% Muscle Band / Wise Glasses gives, and that target is not hit SE by that specific move.

Again another example of a user of these items is a pokemon which does not desire the Life Orb recoil (thus preserving a bit of survivability), and wants to boost one or two main moves on its moveset, e.g. Kabutops @ Mystic Water, Waterfall / Aqua Jet / Stone Edge / Swords Dance.

Except for these Life Orb and Expert Belt would be superior.

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Luck leads to an unhealthy metagame, basically the degree of uncertainty is negative to one that stresses skill over luck, much like Pokemon. Scope lens is banned because it "unfairly" raises the critical rate, while not being a broken item in itself as it only has a miniscule chance of affecting the outcome, it is still banned on the premise of promoting luck over skill.

I do not find this applicable to accuracy raising items like Wide Lens, as they actually minimise the effect of luck for the user and the opponent.
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i use the scope lens in game.anyway just because no body really uses an item dosnt mean that its rubbsquash.and items r good for different situations
Well, it kinda sucks. But I'm not getting through to you apparently so this is a waste of time. =X

But yeah, it does kinda show that it's rubbish. (Or at that's what I think you meant. Your grammar is kinda horrible so I couldn't tell.)

Don't know what to say on the last one. :P
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oh well i changed my BT team.
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my Electivire........tyranitar..................................starmie
........................crunch.......................................surf
.........................avalanch.....................................psychic
..........................rockslide/stone edge.................icebeam
...........................earthquake............................and thunder bolt

hows that then
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I was wondering if someone could rate my movesets please, I don't use IVs/EVs so if it's okay I won't be putting them down, I just train my Pokes to high levels instead =]
I don't know much about competitive battling but I'm starting to learn, I've only just learnt what UU and OU etc mean so that should give you some idea of how much of a newbie I am XD
When I battle I work mostly on strategy with move types, the classic grass>water water>fire fire>water type scenario.

Glaceon
- Water pulse
- Ice beam
- Hidden power
- Shadow ball

Porygon-Z
- Dark pulse
- Tri attack
- Ice beam
- Thunderbolt

Magmortar
- Flamethrower
- Rock climb
- Thunderbolt
- Rock smash

Dragonite
- Wing attack
- Dragon smash
- Steel wing
- Aqua tail

Breloom
- Headbutt
- Sky uppercut
- Mega drain
- Iron tail

Hitmonchan
- Fire punch
- Stone edge
- Pursuit
- Mach punch

I think there's at least one move that works against every type but if there isn't let me know =] I'd appreciate help and suggestions with my moves if there's any that aren't too good.

Also, I've got a ton of items that can be held by Pokemon but I've no idea which would be best on which Pokemon so hopefully I can get your advice on this, these are the items I've got:

Fist plate
Wise glasses
Soft sand
Spell tag
Shell bell
Rock incense
Adamant orb (I thought maybe Dragonite could hold this because he's got both type moves)
Poison barb
Silverpowder
Icicle plate
Big root
Hard stone
Spooky plate
Dread plate
Quick powder
Scope lens
Life orb
Lax incense
Charcoal
Black belt x2
Expert belt x2
Focus sash
Rose incense
Meadow plate
Quick claw
Leftovers
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um.. igot a 96 streak with cressilia gengar and garchomp lost cause i got ohko by gliscor gullotine
i dont think i need to know how to defeat the tower tycoon i can massacre his pokemon i need a good one overall for the Bt
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nice moves.replace porygon-Zs ice beam with nasty plot as a lvl100 porygon-Z can get over 800 spattack from 1 nasty plot.i need a timid starmie as he is faster than palmers milotic
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