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Old September 5th, 2008 (10:48 AM).
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oh yeh earthquake hits electric dunnit.silly me.is dragonite good for the battle tower
It's your average physical sweeper, it can cope. I myself prefer ones not reliant on stat-ups but yeah, he's fine for it.
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good.whats a good nature for him
As I said, he should be using jolly.
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Why does Dragonite have to be Jolly and not Adamant?
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Why does Dragonite have to be Jolly and not Adamant?
So that he can outspeed the base 85s/90s that run nuetral natures prior to a DD. The fat dragon is slowwww. Plus without jolly there's a lot of stuff that still outruns him after a DD, notably CS Hera which likes to pack stone edge and Jolteon with HP ice. Jolly is just more beneficial.
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btw energy ball is best on ninetails because it covers his water weakness
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So that he can outspeed the base 85s/90s that run nuetral natures prior to a DD. The fat dragon is slowwww. Plus without jolly there's a lot of stuff that still outruns him after a DD, notably CS Hera which likes to pack stone edge and Jolteon with HP ice. Jolly is just more beneficial.
It has the same speed as Medicham...even thought I use a Jolly Medicham as well...
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It has the same speed as Medicham...even thought I use a Jolly Medicham as well...
Then it's got a 50/50 chance. Jolly is always more beneficial- It's attack is great but it's speed is just moot for a sweeper.
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So no one has any suggestions?

I need a 6th poke to balance out my team of Tyranitar, Dragonite, Scizor, Gengar and Milotic.

Btw, would Salamence be a better choice than Dragonite?
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salamence is stronger than dragonite and he can double edge and crunch and zenheadbut
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Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
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-Fire Punch/Fire Blast

Dragon Dance + Outrage is the only reason to use Dragonite over Salamence. If your aren't gonna use this set then Salamence would be a better choice.

However, don't use Zen Headbutt, Crunch or Double Edge. They are stupid moves on Salamence.
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is salamences attack more than his specialattack
whats a good moveset for kingdra
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salamence is stronger than dragonite and he can double edge and crunch and zenheadbut
Lol Double Edge
Lol Zen Headbutt
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is salamences attack more than his specialattack
whats a good moveset for kingdra
A) Yes it is
B) Rain dance team or non-rain dance?
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i dont care.
ithought hydropump(maybe surf)rain dance/dragon pulse/thunder bolt(maybe ice beam)
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i dont care.
ithought hydropump(maybe surf)rain dance/dragon pulse/thunder bolt(maybe ice beam)
Is the "I dont care" in reference to me calling moves crap or about the rain dance team?
Since you dont mind Rain dance, standard RD Kingdra:

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There is no need for dragon pulse, the other 3 attacks cover everything. Kingdra cannot learn thunderbolt either.
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[email protected] Orb/Mystic Water
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EVs: 168 Atk, 252 Sp Atk, 88 Spd
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-Draco Meteor/Ice Beam

Mystic Water + Double STABed Waterfall = 2HKO on Calm Blissey. Life Orb allows you to forgoe the Naughty Nature in favor of a +Sp Atk Nature instead, while still allowing the 2HKO on Blissey.

Speed allows you to outspeed Scarfchomp during the rain and OHKO with Ice Beam or Draco Meteor.
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[email protected] Orb/Mystic Water
Naughty Nature
EVs: 168 Atk, 252 Sp Atk, 88 Spd
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-Waterfall
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-Draco Meteor/Ice Beam

Mystic Water + Double STABed Waterfall = 2HKO on Calm Blissey. Life Orb allows you to forgoe the Naughty Nature in favor of a +Sp Atk Nature instead, while still allowing the 2HKO on Blissey.

Speed alsos you to outspeed Scarfchomp during the rain and OHKO with Ice Beam or Draco Meteor.
Ooh I forgot aboutmixed kingdra =]
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Is the "I dont care" in reference to me calling moves crap or about the rain dance team?
Since you dont mind Rain dance, standard RD Kingdra:

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252SpAtt/136Spd/120HP
Rain Dance
Surf/Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
HP Electric

There is no need for dragon pulse, the other 3 attacks cover everything. Kingdra cannot learn thunderbolt either.
oh yeh i mean HP electric what if kingdra fights anouther kingdra if he hasnt got dragonpulse
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Still need ideas for a best set for a Metagross, my Shiny Adament Metagross wants some love
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oh yeh i mean HP electric what if kingdra fights anouther kingdra if he hasnt got dragonpulse
Then you can hit it for nuetral. A pokemon's moveset should aim to cover either it's weaknesses or a large portion of the metagame- Not a single poke it isnt even that worried about (Aka other kingdra). You have ice beam to deal neutral damage, thats enough. Having DP just for kindgra is stupid.

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I still swear by agiligros, but CBGros is rising in popularity:

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I prefer explosion so floaty steels dont Lol.

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are these good kanto sets
Blastoise.........................charizard..............venusaur..................venusaur2
sub.............................air slash.................sleep powder...............leechseed
skullbash....................flamethrower...........leech seed...................sludgebomb
hydrocannon..............sunny day.................gigadrain.....................energy ball
earthquake/icebeam..solar beam..............ingrain..........................rock slide

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are these good kanto sets
Blastoise.........................charizard..............venusaur..................venusaur2
sub.............................air slash.................sleep powder...............leechseed
skullbash....................flamethrower...........leech seed...................sludgebomb
hydrocannon..............sunny day.................gigadrain.....................energy ball
earthquake/HP ground..solar beam..............ingrain..........................rock slide

if you need a stratergy for any of these sets just ask
The moves in bold should never be used in competetive play (Solarbeam is debatable), and all the sets need changing:

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252HP/252Def/6SpAtt
Rapid Spin
Surf
Toxic/Yawn
Ice Beam/Rest

Utility Blastoise, it's what it does best and isnt even really good at it.

Charizard has several sets, but you seem to want a special sweeper so...
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Timid
252SpAtt/252Spd/6HP
Overheat/Flamethrower
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Focus Blast/Focus Punch

Sunny day shuld benefit a whole team, not just a single poke or you're likely to screw your other pokes over if they have water moves or are grass/steel types.

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Energy Ball/Grass knot

Giga drain offers moot damage and therefore moot recovery.
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So no one has any suggestions?

I need a 6th poke to balance out my team of Tyranitar, Dragonite, Scizor, Gengar and Milotic.

Btw, would Salamence be a better choice than Dragonite?

I'm thinking between a Porygon - Z and Togekiss for the six poke, its my in game team by the way.
 

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