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Old September 8th, 2008 (6:40 AM).
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What's a good set for Kingdra if I want to pair it with kyogre in double battles?

Should I forgo rain dance?

Could someone give me an idea for a moveset?

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Old September 8th, 2008 (11:20 AM).
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What's a good set for Kingdra if I want to pair it with kyogre in double battles?

Should I forgo rain dance?

Could someone give me an idea for a moveset?

Cheers.

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You answered your own question.. lol
(Means no raindance).

May as well go with specs

Draco Meteor/Hydro Pump/HP Elec/Ice beam OR Dragon Pulse.

Get in, Draco something, get out. Hydro pump/Draco for dual STAB, HP elec for coverage, Ice beam for dragons since is ubers (might want blizzard for extra power), or Dragon Pulse for reliable STAB.

Its a singles set though, forgive me. I'm not too good with doubles.
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Old September 8th, 2008 (11:36 AM).
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Im just wondering, hows my snorlax doing?

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
212 HP, 40 Atk, 120 Def, 136 Sp Def
-Return
-Sleep Talk
-Earthquake
-Rest


Any changes will be thanked.
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Old September 8th, 2008 (11:51 AM).
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Im just wondering, hows my snorlax doing?

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
212 HP, 40 Atk, 120 Def, 136 Sp Def
-Return
-Sleep Talk
-Earthquake
-Rest


Any changes will be thanked.
Looks fine. Might want to tweak the EVs, maybe lessening the HP and pumping a few extra into SpD, but for the most part its good.
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Old September 8th, 2008 (12:26 PM).
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Im just wondering, hows my snorlax doing?

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Thick Fat
Careful
244 HP / 28 Def / 236 Sp.Def
-Body Slam
-Sleep Talk
-Earthquake/Crunch
-Rest

Any changes will be thanked.
As being snorlax one of the slowest Pokémon available, it is preferable 30% paralysis over higher power and no side effects.
Earthquake is the preferred option for the third move, also crunch is great for hurting ghost types (like mismagius and gengar, invulnerable to earthquake).

EVs must be focus on HP and Sp Defence, and you should give some to your poor defence.
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Old September 8th, 2008 (4:22 PM).
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I'm just starting out with competitive battling, and I'm trying to fix up my strongest pokemon (In levels and stats)

Sceptile & Miracle Seed
Overgrow
Hardy
215 HP
168 Attack
117 Defence
200 Sp. Attack
153 Sp. Defence
217 Speed
-Bullet Seed/SolarBeam
-Leaf Blade
-Rock Tomb
-Giga Drain

I posted all stats, even though I plan for her to go into battle and take them down as fast as possible. Transfered from Emerald, and her speed was maxed out using the stat adding vitamins. For SolarBeam to work, i'm planning on putting out my Castform to use Sunny Day so that it hits automatically. I'm looking for any help...

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Old September 8th, 2008 (4:44 PM). Edited September 8th, 2008 by 4th Gen Matt.
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Snorlax @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
252 HP, 252 Sp.Def, 6 Atk
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?
?
?

What would be a good moveset for my Snorlax? I am looking for him to be a Special Wall/Tank.
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Old September 8th, 2008 (11:17 PM).
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I'm just starting out with competitive battling, and I'm trying to fix up my strongest pokemon (In levels and stats)

Sceptile & Miracle Seed
Overgrow
Hardy
215 HP
168 Attack
117 Defence
200 Sp. Attack
153 Sp. Defence
217 Speed
-Bullet Seed/SolarBeam
-Leaf Blade
-Rock Tomb
-Giga Drain

I posted all stats, even though I plan for her to go into battle and take them down as fast as possible. Transfered from Emerald, and her speed was maxed out using the stat adding vitamins. For SolarBeam to work, i'm planning on putting out my Castform to use Sunny Day so that it hits automatically. I'm looking for any help...

*Feels odd for typing so much*
Sceptile @ Choice Specs / Life Orb
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
~ Leaf Storm
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Focus Blast
~ Energy Ball

OR

Sceptile @ Focus Sash / Muscle Band / Life Orb
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
~ Swords Dance
~ Leaf Blade
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw

Bullet Seed is horrible on Sceptile since its power is low. Rock Tomb is horrible on Sceptile since Sceptile is fast already and doesn't need to be slowing things down. Giga Drain is horrible on Sceptile since it has low PP and low power, not to mention healing with Sceptile is rather futile since he's so fragile. Hardy nature is okay for these sets, though I posted the recommended nature.

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Snorlax @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
252 HP, 252 Sp.Def, 6 Atk
?
?
?
?

What would be a good moveset for my Snorlax? I am looking for him to be a Special Wall/Tank.
Assuming you can't rebreed, use Rest/Sleep Talk/Return/Earthquake. Body Slam can go over Return if you like paralysis chance over power. Amnesia is an option if you really want to wall special attacks; so is Careful nature. Careful is best used with Curse, though.
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Old September 9th, 2008 (7:45 AM).
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oh hi again im ditchin my ttar as he always gets ohko'd as he is to slow
are these good replacements?
togekiss,aura sphere,airslash,HP ground/psychic,shadow ball/psychic
metagross,earth quake,explosion,bullet punch,meteor mash
i may ask for more soon,thanx.:0)
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I cant' give a good replacement with out knowing the consistance of the rest of your team.

Gross with MM/explosion/Ice punch/EQ is good if you band it, or BP over MM for the priority.

Never liked kiss, so I couldn't tell you much about her.
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I cant' give a good replacement with out knowing the consistance of the rest of your team.

Gross with MM/explosion/Ice punch/EQ is good if you band it, or BP over MM for the priority.

Never liked kiss, so I couldn't tell you much about her.
oh yeh sorry,my team is
dragonite...............starmie
outrage..................psychic
dragon dance..........surf
fire punch...............T-bolt
earthquake...............icebeam

oh yeh its a battl tower team
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Old September 9th, 2008 (8:18 AM).
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Aha

There are quite a few good replacements

However, a CBGross with
Bullet punch / Meteor Mash
EQ
Ice Punch / Tpunch
Explosion
Is a great mix, as you have 2 fire blockers, and Dnite guards off th e earth weakness.
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hey thanx,someone actually said i had good ideas on this thread.ill try him.thanx again
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Aha

There are quite a few good replacements

However, a CBGross with
Bullet punch / Meteor Mash
EQ
Ice Punch / Tpunch
Explosion
Is a great mix, as you have 2 fire blockers, and Dnite guards off th e earth weakness.
Just a note, the one move YOU DO NOT replace on ANY metagross is Meteor Mash.

If you want Bullet Punch use it > Ice Punch/T-punch and not over Meteor Mash.

Dropping its strongest STAB is not smart and you will be walled by the metagame with a weak BP as its lone stab.
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ok so im havin metagross.i thought bulletpunch is good as he has low speed
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ok so im havin metagross.i thought bulletpunch is good as he has low speed
Yes it is good, read my post


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Old September 9th, 2008 (10:49 AM).
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Togekiss is awesome.

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
EVs: 120 HP / 252 SATK / 132 Speed
Ability: Serene Grace

Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Flamethrower / Roost
Nasty Plot

Flamethrower for more coverage or Roost for survivability. EVs and Nature are probably off though. If you wanted to go the easy route, there's always the Flinchkiss set.
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Is tri attack good on togekiss? i mean, is a strong STAB attack, and it also benefits from serene grace. But i dont know if its convenient.....
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Is tri attack good on togekiss? i mean, is a strong STAB attack, and it also benefits from serene grace. But i dont know if its convenient.....
IIRC its illegal with egg moves( e.g Nasty Plot etc) due to it being from XD (I think) , however it is a good option on the specs and scarf set.
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In that slot, I'm deciding on whether or not to use a standard Rest-Talk Cune or Rest-Talk Zapdos.
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Old September 9th, 2008 (1:24 PM).
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Ok, thanks for the previous help, i'm making a powerhouse for my team, and I'm trying to choose one.

Rhydon
Adamant
Atk-132
Sp.Atk-59
Def-133
Rock Head

-Horn Drill
-Hammer Arm
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake

OR

Flygon
Quiet
Atk-129
Def-91
Sp.Atk-101

-Fly
-Rock Smash
-Dragon Breath
-Dragon claw/Draco Meteor
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Rhyperior outclasses Rhydon and Garchomp outclasses Flygon. And those movesets are terrible. @[email protected]

Anyways Garchomp always is the way to go, lol.

Garchomp @ Yache Berry
Trait: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance

That would be standard.
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I'd consider Dclaw over outrage, or you could get revenge killed, but thats just me
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i not sure a bout togekiss as it is good
He is awesome.

Besides the Nasty Plot sweeper, which Apostle posted, here's one of his most infamous:

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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Calm
Serene Grace
252 HP/6 DEF/252 SPDEF
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
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