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Old November 7th, 2008 (12:41 PM).
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hi.i came up with this mixed lucario set

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spd103/spa252/atk152
psychic
earthquake
dragonpulse
aurasphere

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For someone who's been in this thread many times before, I'd expect you to tell the difference between an absolutely horrible set, or a decent set =/

No no no no, Earthquake sucks and is weaker than Close Combat in nearly every single case. Aura Sphere is outclassed by Focus Blast on every set besides Specs. Dragon Pulse is inferior, use HP Ice. MixLuke doesn't work; just use Lucario w/ HP Ice.
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Hiya, can some people tell me what they think of this team, and if it can be improved and how.

Skarmory @ Focus Sash
Rock Slide
Spikes
Stealth Rock
Whirl Wind

Infernape @ Life Orb
Grass Knot
Flare Blitz/Flamethrower
E~Quake
Close Combat

Weavile @ Life Orb
Night Slash
Shadow Ball/ Surf
Ice Beam
Brick Break

Blissey @ Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Ice Beam

Flygon @ Life Orb
Giga Drain
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
E~Quake

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Psychic
Surf

Can I have your thoughts please, and not total criticism, but constructive criticism.

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Old November 7th, 2008 (3:01 PM).
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You'd better start off with the basics: Ev's and Natures. While they might seem neglible right now, they are of the utmost importance.
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Old November 7th, 2008 (7:56 PM).
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Hasty
156Att/176SpAtt/176Spd
Dark Void
Dark Pulse
Focus Punch
Substitute/Thunder

Standard MixKrai is the only set that makes use of hasty. Spacial rend adds very little to the set, dark/fight/thunder hits a lot of the uber metagame already.
Hmm.... Dark Pulse with STAB would be stronger than Spacial rend,
Focus Punch is used against Blissey, & Thunder hits Kyogre, Lugia & Ho-oh....(plus it's 30% of paralyzing) so, It does look like Spacial Rend is unneeded....
But, would it be a option over Dark Pulse if Darkrai held Scope lens,
or is that depending on HAX too much?
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Old November 8th, 2008 (9:20 AM).
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Hmm.... Dark Pulse with STAB would be stronger than Spacial rend,
Focus Punch is used against Blissey, & Thunder hits Kyogre, Lugia & Ho-oh....(plus it's 30% of paralyzing) so, It does look like Spacial Rend is unneeded....
But, would it be a option over Dark Pulse if Darkrai held Scope lens,
or is that depending on HAX too much?
Scope lense is banned under the item clause.

And no, if a poke has access to STAB'd dark moves in the uber tier it is realllly stupid not to use it. Of the 21 pokemon existing in the uber tier, 11 are hit for super effective damage by DP- Thats a full half of them. Plus, Dark/Fight is a type combo that hits everything in the game for at least neutral, covering the multitude of non-ubers brought into the tier.

So yeah, spacial rend does not help at all really.
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Scope lense is banned under the item clause.

And no, if a poke has access to STAB'd dark moves in the uber tier it is realllly stupid not to use it. Of the 21 pokemon existing in the uber tier, 11 are hit for super effective damage by DP- Thats a full half of them. Plus, Dark/Fight is a type combo that hits everything in the game for at least neutral, covering the multitude of non-ubers brought into the tier.

So yeah, spacial rend does not help at all really.
Excluding Heracross/Toxicroak :<

I agree with Dark Pulse > Spacial Rend. It also does a huge amount to all the dragons bar Dialga (Focus Blast also dents that too) and the flinch chance can help you kill something or even win a match.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (9:46 AM).
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Would this cloyster work?

cloyster @ leftovers
impish
252 hp, 252 def, 6 atk

toxic spikes
icicle spear
explosion
spikes
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Old November 8th, 2008 (10:28 AM).
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I assume Cloyster will likely come in on something scared of it (I'm still looking), set up a layer of TS or Spikes on the switch in and if they be ice weak, to nail them with all 5 hits of IS.

IMO, ditch either Spikes or Toxic Spikes, as it's unlikely that Cloyster will get 5 turns to set all of them up, and replace with Rapid Spin, as it disposes of enemy spikes.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (10:42 AM).
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okay,im probably going to replace icicle spear with ice shard too.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (10:49 AM).
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Can someone give me a little advice for building a team with this lead? thanks

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252 hp/252 atk/6 def
- Meteor Mash
- Stealth Rock
- Bullet Punch
- Thunder Punch

252 hp evs basically survives every earthquake, so stealth rocks almost always go up. any help guys?
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Cloyster really wants 252HP/[email protected] He's already got enough defence, he needs max SpDef so he can survive krabby's bubblebeam.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (12:52 PM).
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lol,okay ill re EV him...

btw, i thought of this while being very bored today

smeargle @ leftovers
impish
252 def , 252 sp. def, 6 hp

cosmic power
stealth rock
explosion
spore

it sounds stupid, i know, but it could work, couldnt it?
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Old November 8th, 2008 (3:35 PM).
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In the unlikely event that you manage to get in 6 Cosmic Powers, what would you do? Explode?
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trainerelite switched in Medicham

Blissey used Protect.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham used Hi Jump Kick.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham kept going and crashed!

Medicham lost 100% of its health.

BobberyJo Wins!
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Old November 8th, 2008 (3:40 PM).
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lol,okay ill re EV him...

btw, i thought of this while being very bored today

smeargle @ leftovers
impish
252 def , 252 sp. def, 6 hp

cosmic power
stealth rock
explosion
spore

it sounds stupid, i know, but it could work, couldnt it?

It IS stupid, sorry to break it to you. No one will let you Cosmic Power 6 times, and even if you Cosmic Power 6 times, fighting attacks will screw you over. Even after 6 Cosmic Powers, a Choice Banded Machamp still 2HKO's you effortlessly, nevermind that you'll NEVER get Cosmic Powers off (did I say that already :<). Explosion does ass to basically everything without a Belly Drum, which is usually Baton Passed since Smeargle still only has 608 Attack AFTER a Belly Drum, which is horrible (Smeargle has 20 Base Attack, or 152 before the BD)

Clefable, Claydol, hell even Starmie does the whole Cosmic Power gimmick thing better. At LEAST give Smeargle a recovery move and something like Toxic or Explosion and Stealth Rock; both are complete garbage moves on that set to be perfectly honest.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (5:38 PM).
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Scope lense is banned under the item clause.

And no, if a poke has access to STAB'd dark moves in the uber tier it is realllly stupid not to use it. Of the 21 pokemon existing in the uber tier, 11 are hit for super effective damage by DP- Thats a full half of them. Plus, Dark/Fight is a type combo that hits everything in the game for at least neutral, covering the multitude of non-ubers brought into the tier.

So yeah, spacial rend does not help at all really.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (10:31 PM).
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Looking for an EV spread for this Blissey

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

I would like to use this on Wifi.
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Old November 8th, 2008 (10:33 PM).
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Looking for an EV spread for this Blissey

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

I would like to use this on Wifi.
42 HP/252 Def/216 SpD.

There's another EV spread used for Blissey if you want Ice Beam to do more damage; I think it's 82 SpA/252 Def/176 SpD.
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Old November 9th, 2008 (4:22 PM).
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I'm not quite sure if my movesets are correct, I believe they are, but what about the EV's? Discussion!

Bronzong @ Damp Rock
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Sassy
252 HP/ 108 Defense/ 152 SDefense
-Rain Dance
-Hypnosis
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball

Kingdra @ Leftovers/ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
252 SAttack/ 16 Speed/ 240 HP
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power [ELEC]
-Rain Dance

Electrivire @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Lonely
252 Attack/ 172 Speed/ 84 SDefense
-Thunder/ Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Earthquake
-Cross Chop

Milotic @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
252 HP/ 252 Defense/ 4 SDefense
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Surf
-Ice Beam

Ludicolo @ Mystic Water
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Modest
152 HP/ 252 SAttack/ 104 Speed
-Grass Knot
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rain Dance
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Old November 10th, 2008 (1:30 AM).
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Swellow @ Toxic Orb
Adamant
110 HP / 252 Attack / 90 Speed
- Facade
- Steel Wing / Brave Bird
- U-Turn
- Pursuit

Facade for STAB, Steel Wing for coverage (or Brave Bird for another strong, STAB), U-Turn to get the out of there if the battle goes bad for me, and Pursuit for the pokemon who switch out.

Just wanted to know if this Swellow could be good in a UU wifi/shoddy battle.
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Old November 10th, 2008 (2:20 AM).
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Swellow @ Toxic Orb
Adamant
110 HP / 252 Attack / 90 Speed
- Facade
- Steel Wing / Brave Bird
- U-Turn
- Pursuit

Facade for STAB, Steel Wing for coverage (or Brave Bird for another strong, STAB), U-Turn to get the out of there if the battle goes bad for me, and Pursuit for the pokemon who switch out.

Just wanted to know if this Swellow could be good in a UU wifi/shoddy battle.
Hell, just run Jolly 252 Atk/252 Spd. The bulk doesn't help and if you want the chance for Flame Orb to activate, you could go with Protect>Pursuit, which won't do much without a STAB or Guts Active. Guts won't be active, as they switch out unless you switch in on the sweeper, and most Psychics/Ghosts are bulky in UU, anyway.

For the record, Steel only hits Ice and Rock, the latter being the only concern. If its a Phys wall, then Steel Wing won't do much anyway, otherwise Facade is just a good.

Geeknerdbutt, you can always post an RMT if you want a team checked out in detail. Regardless, Kingdra is now more of a threat as a Physical Sweeper, with Outrage and what are with Electivire's EVs? Just run 252/252, unless there's a good reason.
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Old November 10th, 2008 (3:43 AM).
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Okay, looking for a moveset for my Lickilicky:

Lickilicky/Level 100/Gentle/Own Tempo *not sure what to give it to hold*
HP - 344
Attack -189
Defense - 189
Sp.Atk - 185
Sp.Def - 246
Speed - 115

Hidden Power *Fire, according to the online calculator I used*
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Old November 10th, 2008 (3:44 AM).
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i'm looking for a decent poke to clear nasty weather effects away and have been contemplating using blissey as follows.

Bold Nature, 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD EVs
Sunny Day
Flamethrower
Solarbeam
Softboiled

is it worth it or is there a better sandstorm/hail canceller out there for OU play?
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Old November 10th, 2008 (7:10 AM).
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i'm looking for a decent poke to clear nasty weather effects away and have been contemplating using blissey as follows.

Bold Nature, 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD EVs
Sunny Day
Flamethrower
Solarbeam
Softboiled

is it worth it or is there a better sandstorm/hail canceller out there for OU play?

Why waste time trying to cancel weather out when Aboma and Hippow/tar can just set it back up automatically lol? and why sunny day when its inferior to Rain Dance (Choice of pokes, which pokes wall you etc)?

Kingdra is your best bet for canceling weather(Rain Dance) as is Bronzong, and then you can base the rest of your team around this and throw in some good stuff like Kabutops, let me tell you after an SD in the rain its GG, even in ou from that thing.
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Old November 10th, 2008 (8:02 AM).
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I was wondering how this tyranitar would fair in competitive play

Tyranitar @ choice specs
modest
252 sp. atk, 252 speed, 6 hp

dark pulse
ice beam
earth power
flamethrower
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hi,does this set work for donphan

[email protected] berry that raises attack
adamant nature
sturdy
atk252/def252/spD or HP 6
iceshard
stoneedge
earthquake
endure

i need to know if this wood work for the battle tower.if say kecleon endures a hit and salacberry activates, then if kecleon kills the foe and wins the fight,when kecleon goes into the next fight does salac berry come back

Thanx :D

oh yeh almost forgot,that tyranitar setshould work as ttars special atk is not that bad
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