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Old November 12th, 2008 (8:34 AM).
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That is completely inferior to CBPhan. Oh and the berries do come back, yes.
hey thanx Archer.i made this plan,it works best when i fight sceptile,it goes like
i send out donphan
foe sends out sceptile
donphan used endure
sceptile used energy ball
donphan endured the hit
dophans leichi berry raised its attack
donphan used iceshard(it should do quiet alot after leichi boost and phans base 120 atk)
sceptile used energyball
donphan faints.

good init

oh and finally may i ask,where do you guys train up your pokes
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Old November 12th, 2008 (1:51 PM).
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hey thanx Archer.i made this plan,it works best when i fight sceptile,it goes like
i send out donphan
foe sends out sceptile
donphan used endure
sceptile used energy ball
donphan endured the hit
dophans leichi berry raised its attack
donphan used iceshard(it should do quiet alot after leichi boost and phans base 120 atk)
sceptile used energyball
donphan faints.

good init

oh and finally may i ask,where do you guys train up your pokes
Most of us don't, we just use the level up feature in wifi. I for one finish EV training and box them up.
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Old November 12th, 2008 (2:26 PM).
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Old November 12th, 2008 (2:36 PM).
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level up feature? whats that?
You can choose level 50 or 100...
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Old November 12th, 2008 (3:45 PM).
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Would it be smart to have instead of quick feet ursaring then to have an agility passed to guts Jolly ursaring with 252 atk/252 spe? Would it outrun the quick feet version?
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Old November 12th, 2008 (5:14 PM).
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Would it be smart to have instead of quick feet ursaring then to have an agility passed to guts Jolly ursaring with 252 atk/252 spe? Would it outrun the quick feet version?
They'd have the same speed. Although Quick Feet is superior without an Agility.

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hey thanx Archer.i made this plan,it works best when i fight sceptile,it goes like
i send out donphan
foe sends out sceptile
donphan used endure
sceptile used energy ball
donphan endured the hit
dophans leichi berry raised its attack
donphan used iceshard(it should do quiet alot after leichi boost and phans base 120 atk)
sceptile used energyball
donphan faints.

good init

oh and finally may i ask,where do you guys train up your pokes
Not a good initial start at all. What you SHOULD do is switch out, because there is not way Donphan is beating Sceptile one on one.
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Old November 12th, 2008 (5:41 PM).
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actually, i answered my own question. thanks though.
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Old November 12th, 2008 (6:05 PM).
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Hey can Someone Help me out? i cant decide on a team........ i have the pokemon i want and i just am not to sure what moves to teach.

My Current Team:
Feraligatr:
Hold Item:Muscle Band
Waterfall
IcePunch
Earthquake
BrickBreak

Kecleon (Shiny!):
Hold Item: Expert Belt
Strength
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch

Houndoom:
Hold Item:Wise Glasses
Dark Pulse
Hidden Power
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower

Any improvements i can make?
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Old November 12th, 2008 (6:37 PM).
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can someone tell me two more moves i could put on this arcanine?

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jolly
252 atk 252 spe 6 hp

flare blitz
extreme speed
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help would be appreciated.
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Old November 12th, 2008 (9:42 PM).
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Since Arcanine's physical movepool is lacking severely, you're limited to, for D/P:

Flare Blitz
Extremespeed
Thunder Fang
Iron Tail/Overheat

Overheat is to hit some things like Hippowdon harder than what Flare Blitz would. Iron Tail smacks sturdy rock types that completely wall you though.
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Old November 13th, 2008 (8:04 AM).
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Alakazam @ leftovers
timid nature (+ speed - attack )
EV: 252 sp.atk 252 spe

calm mind
psychic
energy ball
focus blast
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Old November 13th, 2008 (8:14 AM).
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Alakazam @ leftovers
timid nature (+ speed - attack )
EV: 252 sp.atk 252 spe

calm mind
psychic
energy ball
focus blast
Calm mind on alakazam does not work, its too frail so you need choice specs and perhaps replace calm mind with trick for the traditional alakazam set. or just replace it with some random attack but you wont get time to set up if your oppoment is any good. :)
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id drop calmmind for shadow ball,its to stop.good ghosts like the strong dusknoir from walling you.i dont want my donphan to kill sceptile,i just used him as an example.
is this good for da chicken

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blaze
adamant nature
nightslash
flareblitz/firepunch only use flareblitz when its got salac berry
sandattack
skyuppercut

or

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blaze
????? nature
night slash
focus blast
flamethrower
bravebird/rockslide
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Old November 13th, 2008 (6:51 PM).
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ehh....this could work..the idea is to setup trick room and the rest is self explanatory....

Shuckle @ focus sash
??? nature
252 def, 252 sp. def, 6 spe

earthquake
rock slide
hp electric
power trick

i mght just use it as another of my crzy sets...
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Old November 13th, 2008 (8:00 PM).
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ehh....this could work..the idea is to setup trick room and the rest is self explanatory....

Shuckle @ focus sash
??? nature
252 def, 252 sp. def, 6 spe

earthquake
rock slide
hp electric
power trick

i mght just use it as another of my crzy sets...
HP Electric, first of all, would be as good as garbage, Power Trick does not boost SpA at all.

"This move swaps the user's Attack and Defense stats. Attack and Defense boosts are still applied to their stat."

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Shuckle always needs Max HP and Defense....Or else his walling abilities go way down.

Yeah get rid of HP electric. It does nothing at all...add Gyro Ball. Impish nature, and make sure you're using him in a sandstorm.
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id drop calmmind for shadow ball,its to stop.good ghosts like the strong dusknoir from walling you.i dont want my donphan to kill sceptile,i just used him as an example.
is this good for da chicken

[email protected]/salacberry
blaze
adamant nature
nightslash
flareblitz/firepunch only use flareblitz when its got salac berry
sandattack
skyuppercut

or

[email protected]
blaze
????? nature
night slash
focus blast
flamethrower
bravebird/rockslide
Sand Attack is banned, I think. Lowers acc.
Night Slash is sort of garbage on Ken. This set works better for physical Blaziken:

Blaziken @ Life Orb/Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP

Flare Blitz
Stone Edge
Sky Uppercut
EQ/T-Punch

Salac only works with reversal.

For mixed ken,

Blaziken @ Choice Scarf
Rash Nature
30HP/30Def IVs
76 Atk/ 216 Spa/ 216 Spe

Sky Uppercut
Thunder Punch
HP Ice
Fire Blast/Overheat.
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Old November 14th, 2008 (11:45 AM).
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Hey can Someone Help me out? i cant decide on a team........ i have the pokemon i want and i just am not to sure what moves to teach.

My Current Team:
Feraligatr:
Hold Item:Muscle Band
Waterfall
IcePunch
Earthquake
BrickBreak

Kecleon (Shiny!):
Hold Item: Expert Belt
Strength
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch

Houndoom:
Hold Item:Wise Glasses
Dark Pulse
Hidden Power
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower

Any improvements i can make?

Any suggestions? at all? I think it can be better but im no good at really picking it out.....
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Old November 14th, 2008 (12:05 PM).
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Hey can Someone Help me out? i cant decide on a team........ i have the pokemon i want and i just am not to sure what moves to teach.

My Current Team:
Feraligatr:
Hold Item:Muscle Band
Waterfall
IcePunch
Earthquake
BrickBreak

Kecleon (Shiny!):
Hold Item: Expert Belt
Strength
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch

Houndoom:
Hold Item:Wise Glasses
Dark Pulse
Hidden Power
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower

Any improvements i can make?
Feraligatr @ Life Orb / Leftovers / Salac Berry
Adamant
EV's: 28 HP, 252 Attack, 228 Speed
-Dragon Dance / Swords Dance
-Ice Punch
-Waterfall
-Earthquake

DDGatr is probably its best bet. If you can't breed Horsea to get Gatr Dragon Dance, then you can opt for Swords Dance instead, but make sure to max out Speed at 252 EV's, taking out the spare HP EV's. The EV spread is so that you outrun what you're able to outrun and putting the rest in HP. (229+ Speed gets you nowhere, as it doesn't let you outspeed anything 228 can't)

Also, if you're using Swords Dance, go for Salac Berry.

Keckleon @ Choice Band
Adamant
EV's: 220 HP, 252 Attack, 36 Defense
-Trick
-Return / Body Slam
-Sucker Punch
-Focus Punch

Keckleon's got a great move in Trick, and functions well as a lead. Trick an SR user and Focus Punch on the switch, because Steels and Rocks wall Keckleon with their "Let's just STAB then Earthquake him" mentality. Return vs. Body Slam is power vs. paralysis. Sucker Punch is for priority, but don't fling this around as you become setup fodder doing so.

Houndoom @ Life Orb
Flash Fire
Timid
EV's: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
-Nasty Plot
-Flamethrower / Fire Blast
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power Fighting / Will-O-Wisp

Houndoom is a personal favorite of mine, because it's so fun :p Anyway, it's no Infernape, but it's definitely better than Ninetales. Two useful immunities help it switch in easily and scare out a lot of things. You then NP on the switch and proceed to rock & roll. HP Fighting better be the Hidden Power your Houndoom has, just saying. If you don't posess HP Fighting, then switch to Will-O-Wisp.

Hope I helped. :)
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Gyarados does the Dragon Dancing thing a lot better than Feraligatr. If you're going to use it, go with Swords Dance.
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Old November 14th, 2008 (1:48 PM). Edited November 14th, 2008 by Nytkoi.
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Can I have a competetive battling movesets for this team;
Delcatty
Infernape
Flygon
Scizor
Kingdra
Umbreon

Thanks. =]
Also, Im really new to this, so Im not sure what kind of strategy would be best for this team.
If you want to suggest a diff pokemon, Im fine with that. (dont move scizor. scizor is ownage :3)
I think I need to have a type of normal type to cpver the types I missed/don't have. (ex. grass, I have no grass...)
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Old November 14th, 2008 (6:35 PM).
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Looking for a physical Flareon set. Would Natural Gift work for him?

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Gyarados does the Dragon Dancing thing a lot better than Feraligatr. If you're going to use it, go with Swords Dance.
Actually, my DD Feraligatr has grabbed me a lot of wins on Wi-Fi.
Gyarados has the x4 Electric weakness and Rock weakness which makes it harder to dance-up.
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Actually, my DD Feraligatr has grabbed me a lot of wins on Wi-Fi.
Gyarados has the x4 Electric weakness and Rock weakness which makes it harder to dance-up.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa cowboy...I hope you aren't implying that DD Feraligatr isn't a better Dragon Dancer than Gyarados or on par with it...

For one thing, Gyarados has more attack (hugely important), so Feraligatr is a million times easier to wall. Gyarados also can survive a lot of electric attacks like HP Electric from Vaporeon, who has 110 base SAtk (same as Lucario's base attack).

It's great that Feraligatr got you some wins on WiFi, but you're lying to yourself saying that Feraligatr is better. It just isn't. The usage patterns kind of agree with me there =p I actually think Gyarados is overrated but that's a whole different issue lol.

Brit Spears is right though. If you use Feraligatr, SD is what you should use. Otherwise, you would be better off using Gyarados (unless your team is insanely SR weak with no wish support or spinner or something, and even then, DDgatr probably isn't the best choice).
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Old November 14th, 2008 (7:31 PM).
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Honestly, DD Feraligatr is vastly inferior to DD Gyarados. While it has more bulk, Intimidate basically negates that. If use a SubSD Set, which has been very sucessful for me:

Feraligatr @ Salac Berry
Jolly
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP (30 HP IV)
Swords Dance
Substitute
Waterfall
Return/Crunch

This has a lot more attack than Gyarados pound for pound, and has Torrent to make its Waterfall incredibly beastly.
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Old November 14th, 2008 (10:03 PM).
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa cowboy...I hope you aren't implying that DD Feraligatr isn't a better Dragon Dancer than Gyarados or on par with it...

For one thing, Gyarados has more attack (hugely important), so Feraligatr is a million times easier to wall. Gyarados also can survive a lot of electric attacks like HP Electric from Vaporeon, who has 110 base SAtk (same as Lucario's base attack).

It's great that Feraligatr got you some wins on WiFi, but you're lying to yourself saying that Feraligatr is better. It just isn't. The usage patterns kind of agree with me there =p I actually think Gyarados is overrated but that's a whole different issue lol.

Brit Spears is right though. If you use Feraligatr, SD is what you should use. Otherwise, you would be better off using Gyarados (unless your team is insanely SR weak with no wish support or spinner or something, and even then, DDgatr probably isn't the best choice).
Heh.. I don't think I ever said Feraligatr was a better Dragon Dancer than Gyarados. =P
He still makes a bloody decent one though, believe me.


..a Flareon set would be nice. =D
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