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Old May 26th, 2008 (5:54 AM).
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Thanks Gofre.

I might test both sets on shoddy later.
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Old May 26th, 2008 (6:34 AM).
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Kanto, you won't have had replies because your team is in-game so it will indefinately win. The games are aimed at ages 3+ and have AI to match. Just level up and aim to hit for super-effective damage every turn and you're set.
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Old May 26th, 2008 (1:05 PM). Edited May 26th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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hey guys
i sorta created my own Shuckle and i wanna know if its good

Shuckle @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
Evs: HP 252 / DEF 240 / SP.DEF 16
Body Slam
Acupressure
Rest
Power Trick
(all max PP)

ok so i know theres only one physical attack, but that has 15 pp, and like 23 or 24 with max which id put, so thats decent
now what id do is use acupressure a lot. and shuckle has SICK defenses, and the one i bred i IV bred so he has sick defenses, his defense with the evs and nature is 610 and the sp.def 500
now hed be there using accupressure and then when i get his stats high enough, use power trick. now i know he has hardly any speed and attack, so thats why i wanna try and get acupressure on attack mostly and possibly speed. i next i use body slam to sweep

hey guys
i sorta created my own Shuckle and i wanna know if its good

Shuckle @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
Evs: HP 252 / DEF 240 / SP.DEF 16
Body Slam
Acupressure
Rest
Power Trick
(all max PP)

ok so i know theres only one physical attack, but that has 15 pp, and like 23 or 24 with max which id put, so thats decent
now what id do is use acupressure a lot. and shuckle has SICK defenses, and the one i bred i IV bred so he has sick defenses, his defense with the evs and nature is 610 and the sp.def 500
now hed be there using accupressure and then when i get his stats high enough, use power trick. now i know he has hardly any speed and attack, so thats why i wanna try and get acupressure on attack mostly and possibly speed. i next i use body slam to sweep
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hey guys
i sorta created my own Shuckle and i wanna know if its good

Shuckle @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
Evs: HP 252 / DEF 240 / SP.DEF 16
Body Slam
Acupressure
Rest
Power Trick
(all max PP)

ok so i know theres only one physical attack, but that has 15 pp, and like 23 or 24 with max which id put, so thats decent
now what id do is use acupressure a lot. and shuckle has SICK defenses, and the one i bred i IV bred so he has sick defenses, his defense with the evs and nature is 610 and the sp.def 500
now hed be there using accupressure and then when i get his stats high enough, use power trick. now i know he has hardly any speed and attack, so thats why i wanna try and get acupressure on attack mostly and possibly speed. i next i use body slam to sweep

hey guys
i sorta created my own Shuckle and i wanna know if its good

Shuckle @ leftovers
Impish
Sturdy
Evs: HP 252 / DEF 240 / SP.DEF 16
Body Slam
Acupressure
Rest
Power Trick
(all max PP)

ok so i know theres only one physical attack, but that has 15 pp, and like 23 or 24 with max which id put, so thats decent
now what id do is use acupressure a lot. and shuckle has SICK defenses, and the one i bred i IV bred so he has sick defenses, his defense with the evs and nature is 610 and the sp.def 500
now hed be there using accupressure and then when i get his stats high enough, use power trick. now i know he has hardly any speed and attack, so thats why i wanna try and get acupressure on attack mostly and possibly speed. i next i use body slam to sweep
Trust me when I say this, Shuckle is terrible because of his Base HP of 20, meaning even with max HP EVs he is only going to survive three Seismic Tosses at the most, which all standard blissey come with, if someone isn't going to realise the whole Power Trick thing, they are stupid. ANY Priority Move will kill it in one hit after the power trick.

Don't Use Shuckle
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It'd take forever for Acupressure to get the right stats high enough, at which point PHazers will Roar you out. If they don't, then Gengar and Dusknoir say hi.

And I agree, don't use Shuckle. Every newbie who gets into the game thinks he's the best thing ever (I know I did), but he's really not. He's completely incapable of doing anything to an opponent.
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Too add to air, when you use Power Swap, your Quick Attack weak. How embarassing is that.
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Yes,tylerowicz, we know, you've posted it about 4 times consecutively already =/. So dont do it again.
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Need a physical set for Tar. Preferably no CB. If CB is needed, then just say so and I'll use the standard Smogon set.
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Need a physical set for Tar. Preferably no CB. If CB is needed, then just say so and I'll use the standard Smogon set.
How about DDTar?

Tyranitar @ Life Orb/ Leftovers
Adamant/ Jolly
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
~ Dragon Dance
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Taunt / Stone Edge / Ice Beam

If you go Jolly, you can outspeed a standard Timid Gengar with a single DD. I think...
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How about DDTar?

Tyranitar @ Life Orb/ Leftovers
Adamant/ Jolly
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
~ Dragon Dance
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Taunt / Stone Edge / Ice Beam

If you go Jolly, you can outspeed a standard Timid Gengar with a single DD.
I'll try this out. I've never used Taunt, maybe it'll be more effective. Thanks.
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Old May 26th, 2008 (3:21 PM).
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I need EV help.

Which is better for Weezing, 252 HP, 252 DEF, 6 SP. ATK,

or

196 HP, 252 DEF, 60 SP.ATK?

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252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Bold nature
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Will-o-wisp / Haze
- Pain Split

Alternately, you can use 196 hp / 252 def / 60 sp.att if you want Flamethrower to 2hko Heracross and generate max lefties recovery. Fire Blast 2hkos Hera without any ev investments, so its up to you on what you want.
I don't like the accuracy of Fire Blast, nor do I like the HP drop. However, I do like a stronger T-Bolt, & a reliable accuraccy move.
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Weezing is not a reliable counter to Gyarados, even if it does face off with Gyarados, the threat of WoW will definitely force Gyarados to think twice before staying in.

On the contrary I find Flamethrower best for dealing with Heracross and friends who would be more than happy to switchin to Will-O-Wisp.

I would think that HP Ice would be more potent on Weezing, or Sludge Bomb.

Anyway I would go for the second as 56 HP EVs lost does not majorly affect your defence.
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Weezing is not a reliable counter to Gyarados, even if it does face off with Gyarados, the threat of WoW will definitely force Gyarados to think twice before staying in.

On the contrary I find Flamethrower best for dealing with Heracross and friends who would be more than happy to switchin to Will-O-Wisp.

I would think that HP Ice would be more potent on Weezing, or Sludge Bomb.

Anyway I would go for the second as 56 HP EVs lost does not majorly affect your defence.
This is what I really wanted to know, thanks.

I don't ming it switching out, and Weezing's moveset is flexible enough to test, although ICE is out of the question. As long as Gya is forced to switch, it seems to be a pretty effecient counter.

Don't worry, I don't go about throwing the WoW around without making sure they have a Hera. T-bolt is for additional coverage, for instance, if I can predict a Heatran coming in, I can hurt it before switching out.
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Need a decent spread for Special Wall Snorlax. Most likely RestTalk, unless there is a better option.
Please explain the EVs, rather than just copying from Smogon. Thanks.
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Need to know if this is a good EV spread/Moveset for Machamp.

Machamp @ Choice Band/Expert Belt
Adamant Nature/No Guard
128 HP/252 ATK/128 Spe
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch

Thanks.
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Old May 27th, 2008 (1:38 AM). Edited May 27th, 2008 by Aquilae.
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First off, Machamp is extremely slow, it won't be outrunning anything of note. 128 Speed EVs is redundant here. Push them all into Defense as Machamp makes a decent counter to Tyranitar and Heracross.

Infact sweeper Machamp is quite a bad idea as Machamp does not have the defensive capabilities to switchin to many pokemon bar specific threats, and would not force many switches unless, it is switching into the specific pokemon. Choice Band Machamp is outclassed offensively by Heracross, its only point of note is that it has Ice Punch and Dynamicpunch.

A RestTalk Machamp would be superior, I seriously would recommend Heracross if you are looking for a sweeper - Machamp gets stopped by different things though, mainly Cresselia as opposed to Gliscor.

Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/16 Atk/176 Def/8 Spd/56 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

or...

Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 188 HP/56 Atk/216 Def/8 Spd/40 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

I stole this from Taylor on Smogon =$

Anyways the HP is for maximum leftovers recovery, defense is tweaked to give a bonus point for 4 EVs, Speed is for Blissey, rest is dumped into Attack and SpD.
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Alright. Thanks for the help. Should I move the HP EVs to defense as well?
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Ok, I was looking through Salamence's moveset, and I've almost finished my CBMence for my team. And I was wondering if Fire Fang would outdamage Flamethrower on an Adamant set?

Also, referring to my RMT, I recieved a Blissey w/Seismic Toss from airconditioning, so I need someone to give me a new Ev spread. Thanks.
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Kanto, you won't have had replies because your team is in-game so it will indefinately win. The games are aimed at ages 3+ and have AI to match. Just level up and aim to hit for super-effective damage every turn and you're set.
Are you being sarcastic about the A.I being targeted for 3 yr olds? I thought this was for help on movesets and stuff
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Ok, I was looking through Salamence's moveset, and I've almost finished my CBMence for my team. And I was wondering if Fire Fang would outdamage Flamethrower on an Adamant set?

Also, referring to my RMT, I recieved a Blissey w/Seismic Toss from airconditioning, so I need someone to give me a new Ev spread. Thanks.
For the Blissey, I assuming the nature is calm so:

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
EVs; 40HP/252 Def/216 SpDef
Moves:
Seismic Toss
Thunderwave
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

As for flamethrower outdamaging fire fang, it would depend on who you are facing it against, because it would hit harder on Skarmory because SpD is it's weaker stat. I'd put Fire Blast > Flamethrower by the way.

At KantoJohto, the AI is targeted for three year olds since it is aimed at roughly that age group, I've seen the AI use Dream Eater countless times when I was awake. Trust me, you can beat the Elite Four with any team, I even beat the Elite Four on Leaf Green when I was level 60 or so and they were level 70! I only won due to the Genius Leech Seed and loads of Revives and Full Restores, but if you level up enough, you should be able to win.
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Are you being sarcastic about the A.I being targeted for 3 yr olds? I thought this was for help on movesets and stuff
No, the game seriously is targeted at 3 year olds. This thread is mainly meant for competitive battling, as you can beat the main game with a Magikarp.
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Need to know if this is a good EV spread/Moveset for Machamp.

Machamp @ Choice Band/Expert Belt
Adamant Nature/No Guard
128 HP/252 ATK/128 Spe
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch

Thanks.

EQ is garbage on any fighting pokemon. CB Machamp want GUTS and Close Combat, as its slow, its just easily statused when you start flinging D-Punches around.

Use Payback >>EQ, it 2hko's Cresselia @Choice Band =)

128 speed outspeeds standard Skarm btw, so you dont get owned by Brave Bird.




@Deanodance, you can use 1 of 2 spreads on Bold Blissey.


252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF Old standard spread.


If your using Ice Beam or a sp.att in conjunction with S-Toss, go 148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT / 6 SP.DEF
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Howdi folks, I would like to know what the best movesets/natures in D/P would be for these Pokemon: Raichu, Victreebel, and Pigeot. :)
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Nature:Timid/Naive
Focus Punch/Focus Blast
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It can also run Encore, to try & set up a Nasty Plot.
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